Debian Bug report logs - #577040
dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:44:50 +1000

Package: debhelper
Version: 7.4.17
Severity: wishlist
File: /usr/bin/dh_installinit

I wanted to try Ubuntu's (Scott's) bootchart implementation on Debian
Sid, so I did this:

    $ bzr checkout --lightweight lp:ubuntu/bootchart bootchart
    $ cd bootchart/
    $ debuild
    [...]
    $ dpkg -I ../*deb | grep Depends | fmt
     Depends: upstart-job, libc6 (>= 2.7), upstart (>= 0.6.3-4),
     initramfs-tools, lsb-base, lsb-release, klibc-utils (>= 1.1.1-4ubuntu6)

This source package contains both debian/bootchart.upstart and
debian/bootchart.init.  Currently the former gets precedence,
resulting in a binary package that can't be used with sysvinit (as
upstart-job is provided by upstart, which conflicts with sysvinit).

It would be nice if the presence of both kinds of script caused
dh_installinit to include both, add "Depends: upstart | sysvinit", and
Do The Right Thing (whatever that may be) in the postinst.

PS: déjà vu!  Did I already ask for this?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.33-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_AU.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages debhelper depends on:
ii  binutils                      2.20.1-5   The GNU assembler, linker and bina
ii  dpkg-dev                      1.15.5.6   Debian package development tools
ii  file                          5.04-2     Determines file type using "magic"
ii  html2text                     1.3.2a-14  advanced HTML to text converter
ii  man-db                        2.5.7-2    on-line manual pager
ii  perl                          5.10.1-11  Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  perl-base                     5.10.1-11  minimal Perl system
ii  po-debconf                    1.0.16     tool for managing templates file t

debhelper recommends no packages.

Versions of packages debhelper suggests:
pn  dh-make                       <none>     (no description available)

-- no debconf information

Message #10 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net>

To: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>

Cc: 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: FWD: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:58:07 -0400

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Steve, what happened to the upstart-job compatability layer
you talked about last July?

----- Forwarded message from "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> -----

Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:44:50 +1000
From: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and
	.upstart exist.
Reply-To: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com>, 577040@bugs.debian.org
X-Mailer: reportbug 4.11

Package: debhelper
Version: 7.4.17
Severity: wishlist
File: /usr/bin/dh_installinit

I wanted to try Ubuntu's (Scott's) bootchart implementation on Debian
Sid, so I did this:

    $ bzr checkout --lightweight lp:ubuntu/bootchart bootchart
    $ cd bootchart/
    $ debuild
    [...]
    $ dpkg -I ../*deb | grep Depends | fmt
     Depends: upstart-job, libc6 (>= 2.7), upstart (>= 0.6.3-4),
     initramfs-tools, lsb-base, lsb-release, klibc-utils (>= 1.1.1-4ubuntu6)

This source package contains both debian/bootchart.upstart and
debian/bootchart.init.  Currently the former gets precedence,
resulting in a binary package that can't be used with sysvinit (as
upstart-job is provided by upstart, which conflicts with sysvinit).

It would be nice if the presence of both kinds of script caused
dh_installinit to include both, add "Depends: upstart | sysvinit", and
Do The Right Thing (whatever that may be) in the postinst.

PS: déjà vu!  Did I already ask for this?

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.33-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_AU.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages debhelper depends on:
ii  binutils                      2.20.1-5   The GNU assembler, linker and bina
ii  dpkg-dev                      1.15.5.6   Debian package development tools
ii  file                          5.04-2     Determines file type using "magic"
ii  html2text                     1.3.2a-14  advanced HTML to text converter
ii  man-db                        2.5.7-2    on-line manual pager
ii  perl                          5.10.1-11  Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  perl-base                     5.10.1-11  minimal Perl system
ii  po-debconf                    1.0.16     tool for managing templates file t

debhelper recommends no packages.

Versions of packages debhelper suggests:
pn  dh-make                       <none>     (no description available)

-- no debconf information



----- End forwarded message -----

-- 
see shy jo

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Message #15 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>

To: 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 21:49:03 -0800

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tags 577040 patch
block 577040 by 591791
thanks

Hi Joey,

Seems I missed your last message about this some time ago; sorry about that.
From the init system BoF at DebConf last summer, though, we now have a
proposed way forward to including upstart jobs in Debian - one that indeed
happens to involve installing both upstart jobs and sysvinit scripts
simultaneously.

There are bits of policy to be finalized first, and various other packages
(lsb-base, sysvinit) should also be updated before we start letting daemons
loose on the archive this way via debhelper; but I believe the attached will
do the job when the time comes.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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Message #24 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

To: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>, 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:38:34 -0400

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Steve Langasek wrote:
> There are bits of policy to be finalized first, and various other packages
> (lsb-base, sysvinit) should also be updated before we start letting daemons
> loose on the archive this way via debhelper; but I believe the attached will
> do the job when the time comes.

Is it safe to apply this now?

-- 
see shy jo

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Message #29 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>

To: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

Cc: 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:43:05 -0800

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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:38:34AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > There are bits of policy to be finalized first, and various other packages
> > (lsb-base, sysvinit) should also be updated before we start letting daemons
> > loose on the archive this way via debhelper; but I believe the attached will
> > do the job when the time comes.

> Is it safe to apply this now?

I don't think it should be uploaded to Debian before upstart support is also
added in the places mentioned above (policy, sysvinit, lsb-base).

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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Message #34 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

To: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>, 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:59:00 -0400

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Steve Langasek wrote:
> I don't think it should be uploaded to Debian before upstart support is also
> added in the places mentioned above (policy, sysvinit, lsb-base).

I'd appreciate a ping when that happens. 

-- 
see shy jo

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Message #39 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Soren Hansen <soren@ubuntu.com>

To: 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Why let upstart take precedence?

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:28:32 +0200

What doesn't seem entirely clear to me, is why the upstart jobs take
precedence over sysvinit style boot scripts? It seems clear that Debian
prefers non-upstart over upstart (upstart being Priority: extra, and
insserv being the default pid 1 in Debian), so it would seem more
sensible to me to prefer init style boot scripts over upstart jobs.

Specifically, it makes it difficult to share efforts for packaging on
Ubuntu and Debian, since in Ubuntu we might want upstart jobs, but
adding them to the packaging results in (almost) uninstallable packages
in Debian, due to the dependency on upstart-job added by dh_installinit.

-- 
Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Developer    http://www.ubuntu.com/
OpenStack Developer http://www.openstack.org/

Message #44 received at 577040@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>

To: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

Cc: 577040@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#577040: dh_installinit: don't force upstart when both .init and .upstart exist.

Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 15:39:38 -0700

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block 660824 by 577040

Hi Joey,

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 03:59:00PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I don't think it should be uploaded to Debian before upstart support is also
> > added in the places mentioned above (policy, sysvinit, lsb-base).

> I'd appreciate a ping when that happens. 

Here's a ping, and a rebased patch.  The Debian policy bug is not finalized,
but is converging on consensus, so I think this is a good time to start
introducing some working code.

I was going to start with the sysvinit package first, but since
sysvinit-utils will itself install an upstart job, it needs dh_installinit
to DTRT first and avoid adding a dependency on upstart-job to this core
package.  So it looks like debhelper should be done first.

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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Message #49 received at 577040-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

To: 577040-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#577040: fixed in debhelper 9.20120410

Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:17:12 +0000

Source: debhelper
Source-Version: 9.20120410

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debhelper, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

debhelper_9.20120410.dsc
  to main/d/debhelper/debhelper_9.20120410.dsc
debhelper_9.20120410.tar.gz
  to main/d/debhelper/debhelper_9.20120410.tar.gz
debhelper_9.20120410_all.deb
  to main/d/debhelper/debhelper_9.20120410_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 577040@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> (supplier of updated debhelper package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:51:15 -0400
Source: debhelper
Binary: debhelper
Architecture: source all
Version: 9.20120410
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
Changed-By: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
Description: 
 debhelper  - helper programs for debian/rules
Closes: 577040 665891 666901 668276
Changes: 
 debhelper (9.20120410) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Joey Hess ]
   * Fix a typo. Closes: #665891
   * Conflict with too old automake for AM_UPDATE_INFO_DIR=no. Closes: #666901
   * dh_md5sums: Don't skip DEBIAN directories other than the control files
     one. Closes: #668276
 .
   [ Steve Langasek ]
   * dh_installinit: rework upstart handling to comply with new policy
     proposal; packages will ship both an init script and an upstart job,
     instead of just an upstart job and a symlink to a compat wrapper.
     Closes: #577040
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