Debian Bug report logs - #560863
RFP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:30:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Bug#560863; Package wnpp. (Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:30:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:26:56 -0600
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>


* Package name    : lamson
  Version         : 1.0pre7
  Upstream Author : Zed A. Shaw
* URL             : http://lamsonproject.org
* License         : GPL
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description     : The Python SMTP Server

Lamson's goal is to put an end to the hell that is "e-mail application
development". Rather than stay stuck in the 1970s, Lamson adopts modern
web application framework design and uses a proven scripting language
(Python).

Features:
    * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
      and FSM-based routing.
    * Use an RDBMS and ORM instead of a bizarre combination of
      flat-files and hashtables!
    * Get up and running quickly. Lamson can be installed and running in
      30 seconds.




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Acknowledgement sent to David Watson <david@planetwatson.co.uk>:
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Message #10 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: David Watson <david@planetwatson.co.uk>
To: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>, 560863@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:44:06 +0000
Sebastian Otaegui wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> * Package name    : lamson
>   Version         : 1.0pre7
>   Upstream Author : Zed A. Shaw
> * URL             : http://lamsonproject.org
> * License         : GPL
>   Programming Lang: Python
>   Description     : The Python SMTP Server
> 
> Lamson's goal is to put an end to the hell that is "e-mail application
> development". Rather than stay stuck in the 1970s, Lamson adopts modern
> web application framework design and uses a proven scripting language
> (Python).
> 
> Features:
>     * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
>       and FSM-based routing.
>     * Use an RDBMS and ORM instead of a bizarre combination of
>       flat-files and hashtables!
>     * Get up and running quickly. Lamson can be installed and running in
>       30 seconds.

Hi Sebastian,

Lamson is already packaged as python-lamson, maybe you would like to 
assist in updating the existing package.

Regards,

-- 
David Watson - Debian GNU/Linux Developer
david@planetwatson.co.uk, dwatson@debian.org

Jabber: dwatson@planetwatson.co.uk
Web: http://planetwatson.co.uk/blog




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Bug#560863; Package wnpp. (Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>. (Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #15 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>
To: David Watson <david@planetwatson.co.uk>, 560863@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:01:23 -0600
I could not find it I most definitely would like to help on that

Can you send me the link to the project ?



On 12/12/09, David Watson <david@planetwatson.co.uk> wrote:
> Sebastian Otaegui wrote:
>> Package: wnpp
>> Severity: wishlist
>> Owner: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> * Package name    : lamson
>>   Version         : 1.0pre7
>>   Upstream Author : Zed A. Shaw
>> * URL             : http://lamsonproject.org
>> * License         : GPL
>>   Programming Lang: Python
>>   Description     : The Python SMTP Server
>>
>> Lamson's goal is to put an end to the hell that is "e-mail application
>> development". Rather than stay stuck in the 1970s, Lamson adopts modern
>> web application framework design and uses a proven scripting language
>> (Python).
>>
>> Features:
>>     * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
>>       and FSM-based routing.
>>     * Use an RDBMS and ORM instead of a bizarre combination of
>>       flat-files and hashtables!
>>     * Get up and running quickly. Lamson can be installed and running in
>>       30 seconds.
>
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> Lamson is already packaged as python-lamson, maybe you would like to
> assist in updating the existing package.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> David Watson - Debian GNU/Linux Developer
> david@planetwatson.co.uk, dwatson@debian.org
>
> Jabber: dwatson@planetwatson.co.uk
> Web: http://planetwatson.co.uk/blog
>

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Bug#560863; Package wnpp. (Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:51:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no>:
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Message #20 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Cc: 560863@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:49:40 +0100
]] Sebastian Otaegui 

|     * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
|       and FSM-based routing.

What does the flying spaghetti monster have to do with email routing?

-- 
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, <wnpp@debian.org>, Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>:
Bug#560863; Package wnpp. (Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:36:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to sean finney <seanius@debian.org>:
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Message #25 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: sean finney <seanius@debian.org>
To: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>, 560863@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:34:56 +0100
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On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 03:26:56PM -0600, Sebastian Otaegui wrote:
> Features:
>     * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
>       and FSM-based routing.

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use
regular expressions." Now they have two problems. -- jwz

more seriously, though: it seems that this upstream already has a fairly
antagonistic attitude towards debian, are we sure that we want to include
their software in a stable release?

	http://lamsonproject.org/docs/faq.html

read past the part about "mime strippers", which sadly does not mean what
one might think (i believe he meant MIME strippers, though the imagery
did make me chuckle). and on to:

	How do I install lamson on a Debian or CentOS server?

	Debian and CentOS are notorious for being dinosaurs. Both
	distributions of Linux suffer from the false rationale that
	older software is more stable and secure. The reality is
	that the stability or security of a piece of software is not
	a function of its age, and in many cases the newer versions
	of software will typically fix many stability and performance
	problems. Despite this fact, these two variants of Linux are
	notorious for back-porting patches from later versions to older
	versions rather than just using the newer version.




	sean
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Acknowledgement sent to Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>:
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Message #30 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>
Cc: 560863@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:10:01 +0100
* Sebastian Otaegui:

> Features:
>     * Avoid aliases forever! Lamson uses friendly regular expressions
>       and FSM-based routing.

*ahem* Doesn't policy require support for /etc/aliases?




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Bug#560863; Package wnpp. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:10:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>:
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Message #35 received at 560863@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 560863@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: lamson: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:06:44 +0000
retitle 560863 RFP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
noowner 560863
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of lamson back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 6 months.

If you are still interested in adopting lamson, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 560863 ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server
 owner 560863 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITP for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
packaging that software. It is also a good idea to document your progress on
this ITP from time to time, by mailing <560863@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>




Changed Bug title to 'RFP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server' from 'ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:13:12 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by Sebastian Otaegui <feniix@gmail.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:13:13 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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