Debian Bug report logs - #543717
Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late

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Package: udev; Maintainer for udev is Debian systemd Maintainers <pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>; Source for udev is src:systemd (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:48:03 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version udev/0.125-7+lenny1

Fixed in version udev/153-1

Done: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:48:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:48:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:37:04 +0200
Package: udev
Version: 0.125-7+lenny1


Hi,

I'm trying to setup an initrd using standard kernel for loading an NFS-Root
system using bonding and bnx2 interface.

I was stopped by the bnx2 driver being unable to load it's firmware when adding 'bnx2' in the 'modules' files,
so i took a little peek at the init sequence of initramfs:


	run_scripts /scripts/init-top
	...
	load_modules
	...
	run_scripts /scripts/init-premount


Since udev is setup in init-premount, it's unavailable when loading modules and so firmware loading fail,
moving udev in init-top fixed the problem so i was wondering if there is a reason for this current location

This has been tested in lenny and the current sid

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #10 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
To: Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:07:27 +0200
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On Aug 26, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info> wrote:

> I was stopped by the bnx2 driver being unable to load it's firmware when adding 'bnx2' in the 'modules' files,
Why not letting udev load the driver by itself instead?

> Since udev is setup in init-premount, it's unavailable when loading modules and so firmware loading fail,
> moving udev in init-top fixed the problem so i was wondering if there is a reason for this current location
I got the original scripts from somebody else and I do not know much
about the design of initramfs-tools.
Can we start udev earlier? I see that some of the standard scripts
manually run mknod to work around this.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:30:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:30:09 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #15 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: md@Linux.IT, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:13:59 +0200
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Aug 26, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info> wrote:
> 
> > I was stopped by the bnx2 driver being unable to load it's firmware when adding 'bnx2' in the 'modules' files,
> Why not letting udev load the driver by itself instead?
> 
> > Since udev is setup in init-premount, it's unavailable when loading modules and so firmware loading fail,
> > moving udev in init-top fixed the problem so i was wondering if there is a reason for this current location
> I got the original scripts from somebody else and I do not know much
> about the design of initramfs-tools.
> Can we start udev earlier? I see that some of the standard scripts
> manually run mknod to work around this.

i'll have a look but won't have time before next weekend.
such a big change needs to be well thought.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:51:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:51:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #20 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
To: Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, max@stro.at
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:11:26 +0100
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
On Aug 30, maximilian attems <max@stro.at> wrote:

> > Can we start udev earlier? I see that some of the standard scripts
> > manually run mknod to work around this.
> i'll have a look but won't have time before next weekend.
> such a big change needs to be well thought.
Please let me know if you plan to work on this or if I should close the
bug.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #25 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: md@Linux.IT, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:03:07 +0100
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:11:26PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 30, maximilian attems <max@stro.at> wrote:
> 
> > > Can we start udev earlier? I see that some of the standard scripts
> > > manually run mknod to work around this.
> > i'll have a look but won't have time before next weekend.
> > such a big change needs to be well thought.
> Please let me know if you plan to work on this or if I should close the
> bug.

it has to be started earlier, that is clear.
I haven't had the time to find out how early, aka at which state exactly.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:12:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #30 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: md@Linux.IT, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:09:33 +0100
> it has to be started earlier, that is clear.
> I haven't had the time to find out how early, aka at which state exactly.

init-top

so it it will be run early enough that it is present for
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules and no one will need to do
mknoding.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:27:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:27:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #35 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: md@Linux.IT, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:23:43 +0100
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, maximilian attems wrote:

> > it has to be started earlier, that is clear.
> > I haven't had the time to find out how early, aka at which state exactly.
> 
> init-top
> 
> so it it will be run early enough that it is present for
> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and no one will need to do
> mknoding.

hmm there is one subtle wish here,
please add a pre-requisite on all_generic_ide so that it gets
a chance to load bloody IDE device.

of course alternatively the udev init-top script could parse that
boot param on its own?

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:12:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #40 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
To: Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 03:10:38 +0100
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
On Jan 26, maximilian attems <max@stro.at> wrote:

> so it it will be run early enough that it is present for
> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and no one will need to do
> mknoding.
I cannot do this without coordination with the initramfs-tool package
because load_modules and init-premount/blacklist must be moved as well
and run before udevadm trigger.
Please advise.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#543717; Package udev. (Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:45:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:45:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #45 received at 543717@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: md@Linux.IT, Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>, 543717@bugs.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#543717: Initramfs firmware loading fail due to udev being started too late
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:40:17 +0100
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Jan 26, maximilian attems <max@stro.at> wrote:
> 
> > so it it will be run early enough that it is present for
> > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and no one will need to do
> > mknoding.
> I cannot do this without coordination with the initramfs-tool package
> because load_modules and init-premount/blacklist must be moved as well
> and run before udevadm trigger.
> Please advise.

changed blacklist to load at init-top stage in initramfs-tools git.
plan to upload this or next week.

Reply sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
You have taken responsibility. (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:21:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Notification sent to Benoit Plessis <benoit@plessis.info>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:21:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #50 received at 543717-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>
To: 543717-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#543717: fixed in udev 153-1
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:18:29 +0000
Source: udev
Source-Version: 153-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
udev, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

gir1.0-gudev-1.0_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/gir1.0-gudev-1.0_153-1_i386.deb
libgudev-1.0-0_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/libgudev-1.0-0_153-1_i386.deb
libgudev-1.0-dev_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/libgudev-1.0-dev_153-1_i386.deb
libudev-dev_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/libudev-dev_153-1_i386.deb
libudev0_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/libudev0_153-1_i386.deb
udev-gtk-udeb_153-1_i386.udeb
  to main/u/udev/udev-gtk-udeb_153-1_i386.udeb
udev-udeb_153-1_i386.udeb
  to main/u/udev/udev-udeb_153-1_i386.udeb
udev_153-1.diff.gz
  to main/u/udev/udev_153-1.diff.gz
udev_153-1.dsc
  to main/u/udev/udev_153-1.dsc
udev_153-1_i386.deb
  to main/u/udev/udev_153-1_i386.deb
udev_153.orig.tar.gz
  to main/u/udev/udev_153.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 543717@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> (supplier of updated udev package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:42:39 +0200
Source: udev
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Architecture: source i386
Version: 153-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>
Changed-By: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>
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 .
   * New upstream release. Fixes:
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       (Closes: #550152)
     + some issues related to CD/DVD burners. (Closes: #573402, #577256)
     + Logitech keyboards broken by the broken fix for #567237.
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