Debian Bug report logs - #537644
Please denote 'openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver' to recommends

Package: ltsp-server-standalone; Maintainer for ltsp-server-standalone is Debian LTSP Maintainers <team+ltsp@tracker.debian.org>; Source for ltsp-server-standalone is src:ltsp (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: daniel@debian.org

Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:15:04 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Bug#537644; Package ltsp-server-standalone. (Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:15:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Please denote 'openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver' to recommends
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:12:04 +0200
Package: ltsp-server-standalone
Severity: normal

Hi,

as far as I know (but please correct me if I'm wrong),
ltsp-server-standalone only depends on 'openbsd-inetd |
inet-superserver' because of the tftp of choice.

Since tftpd-hpa 5.0-1, the tftpd is run standalone by default, not
supporting inetd mode anymore (in debian). Therefore, if possible,
please denote the depends to a recommends.

Please also denote it on the ltsp-server package if it applies there as
well.

Regards,
Daniel

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Bug#537644; Package ltsp-server-standalone. (Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:30:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com>
To: daniel@debian.org, 537644@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-ltsp-devel] Bug#537644: Please denote 'openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver' to recommends
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:29:25 +0200
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hi,
On Mo, 2009-07-20 at 03:12 +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> Package: ltsp-server-standalone
> Severity: normal
> 
> Hi,
> 
> as far as I know (but please correct me if I'm wrong),
> ltsp-server-standalone only depends on 'openbsd-inetd |
> inet-superserver' because of the tftp of choice.
sadly you are wrong, nbdswapd is running from ited as well (in debian
and ubuntu), and in ubuntu nbdrootd is also running from inetd.

while nbd swapping could be made optional in debian, ubuntu unlike
debian mounts its rootimage via nbd so there it is a hard dependency and
it would be nice to not introduce a dependency delta between the two
(indeed we will carry it if its unaviodable) since debian is well able
to use nbd root as well, it just doesnt default to it.

what was the reason to change the default mode ?
(i personaly prefer to run services on demand if they are only needed
temporarly and keep the resources clear when they are not needed)

ciao
	oli
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You have taken responsibility. (Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:27:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to daniel@debian.org:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:27:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at 537644-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org>
To: Oliver Grawert <ogra@ubuntu.com>
Cc: 537644-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-ltsp-devel] Bug#537644: Please denote 'openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver' to recommends
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:17:12 +0200
Oliver Grawert wrote:
>> as far as I know (but please correct me if I'm wrong),
>> ltsp-server-standalone only depends on 'openbsd-inetd |
>> inet-superserver' because of the tftp of choice.
> sadly you are wrong, nbdswapd is running from ited as well (in debian
> and ubuntu), and in ubuntu nbdrootd is also running from inetd.

so let's close the bug then, and sorry for the noise.

> what was the reason to change the default mode ?

there are basically three reasons:

1. it's a major pita to handle inetd properly through maintainer scripts
and has been source for all sorts of problems.

2. tftpd-hpa itself has problems (upstream wise), sometimes it fails to
work when being in inetd mode, but works flawless and reliable when in
daemon mode (and as daemon, it's very tiny and doesn't consume notable
ressources).

3. when in inetd mode, it doesn't support all the features (such as ipv6).

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Email:          daniel.baumann@panthera-systems.net
Internet:       http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/




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