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rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:59:17 -0500

Package: rhythmbox
Version: 0.12.1-1
Severity: normal

This is mysterious.  In my fstab, I used to have:

/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_[[blah]]-0:0-part2       /ipod  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       5

I'd plug my ipod in, type mount /ipod as my regular user, and there we
go.

rhythmbox completely refused to see it.

I unmounted and unplugged the ipod.  I commented out that line in
fstab.  Plugged it in, and clicked on the "recently connected" button
in KDE 4.  THEN rhythmbox saw it.  I have no idea why the difference.

Also, do have gnome-volume-manager installed as documented in README.Debian.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (99, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.29-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages rhythmbox depends on:
ii  dbus         1.2.14-2                    simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  gconf2       2.26.2-1                    GNOME configuration database syste
ii  gnome-icon-t 2.26.0-1                    GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.23-2                   GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.15-2                   GStreamer plugin for ESD
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.12-1                   GStreamer plugins from the "bad" s
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.23-2                   GStreamer plugins from the "base" 
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.15-2                   GStreamer plugins from the "good" 
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.23-2                   GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pang
ii  libatk1.0-0  1.26.0-1                    The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libavahi-cli 0.6.25-1                    Avahi client library
ii  libavahi-com 0.6.25-1                    Avahi common library
ii  libavahi-gli 0.6.25-1                    Avahi glib integration library
ii  libbonobo2-0 2.24.1-1                    Bonobo CORBA interfaces library
ii  libc6        2.9-13                      GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2    1.8.6-2+b1                  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3  1.2.14-2                    simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libdbus-glib 0.80-4                      simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libfontconfi 2.6.0-3                     generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype6 2.3.9-5                     FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1      1:4.4.0-5                   GCC support library
ii  libgconf2-4  2.26.2-1                    GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libglade2-0  1:2.6.4-1                   library to load .glade files at ru
ii  libglib2.0-0 2.20.3-1                    The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome-key 2.26.1-1                    GNOME keyring services library
ii  libgnome-med 2.26.0-1                    runtime libraries for the GNOME me
ii  libgnome2-0  2.26.0-1                    The GNOME library - runtime files
ii  libgpod4     0.7.0-2                     library to read and write songs an
ii  libgstreamer 0.10.23-2                   GStreamer libraries from the "base
ii  libgstreamer 0.10.23-1                   Core GStreamer libraries and eleme
ii  libgtk2.0-0  2.16.2-1                    The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhal1      0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 Hardware Abstraction Layer - share
ii  libice6      2:1.0.5-1                   X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  liblircclien 0.8.3-3                     infra-red remote control support -
ii  libmtp8      0.3.7-7                     Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) libr
ii  libmusicbrai 2.1.5-2                     Second generation incarnation of t
ii  libnautilus- 2.24.0-3                    Nautilus Burn Library - runtime ve
ii  libnotify1 [ 0.4.5-1                     sends desktop notifications to a n
ii  liborbit2    1:2.14.17-0.1               libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii  libpango1.0- 1.24.2-1                    Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpopt0     1.14-4                      lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii  libsm6       2:1.1.0-2                   X11 Session Management library
ii  libsoup2.4-1 2.26.2-1                    an HTTP library implementation in 
ii  libstdc++6   4.4.0-5                     The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libtotem-plp 2.26.2-1                    Totem Playlist Parser library - ru
ii  libusb-0.1-4 2:0.1.12-13                 userspace USB programming library
ii  libx11-6     2:1.2.1-1                   X11 client-side library
ii  libxml2      2.7.3.dfsg-1                GNOME XML library
ii  python       2.5.4-2                     An interactive high-level object-o
ii  python-gnome 2.26.1-1                    Python bindings for the GNOME desk
ii  python-gst0. 0.10.15-1                   generic media-playing framework (P
ii  python-gtk2  2.14.1-3                    Python bindings for the GTK+ widge
ii  python-suppo 1.0.3                       automated rebuilding support for P
ii  python2.5    2.5.4-1                     An interactive high-level object-o
ii  zlib1g       1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13           compression library - runtime

Versions of packages rhythmbox recommends:
ii  avahi-daemon 0.6.25-1                    Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
pn  gnome-codec- <none>                      (no description available)
ii  gstreamer0.1 0.10.11-1                   GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" 
ii  hal          0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2 Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  notification 0.4.0-1                     a daemon that displays passive pop
ii  yelp         2.24.0-2                    Help browser for GNOME 2

Versions of packages rhythmbox suggests:
ii  gnome-control-center          1:2.26.0-1 utilities to configure the GNOME d
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad     0.10.12-1  GStreamer plugins from the "bad" s
ii  python-coherence              0.6.4-1    Python UPnP framework

-- no debconf information

Message #10 received at 532645@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>, 532645@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#532645: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:32:52 +0200

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Le mercredi 10 juin 2009 à 10:59 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit :
> This is mysterious.  In my fstab, I used to have:
> 
> /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_[[blah]]-0:0-part2       /ipod  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       5
> 
> I'd plug my ipod in, type mount /ipod as my regular user, and there we
> go.
> 
> rhythmbox completely refused to see it.
> 
> I unmounted and unplugged the ipod.  I commented out that line in
> fstab.  Plugged it in, and clicked on the "recently connected" button
> in KDE 4.  THEN rhythmbox saw it.  I have no idea why the difference.

Since the migration to gio, rhythmbox apparently needs devices to be
already mounted *in gvfs* to see it.  However, I don’t know of a daemon
that can do the job apart from nautilus.  This is a design issue that
affects non-GNOME users quite badly.  This is probably not something we
can fix at the Debian level, so I suggest that you talk about it with
upstream.

> Also, do have gnome-volume-manager installed as documented in README.Debian.

Thanks for the notice, as this is outdated; gnome-volume-manager still
handles some devices, but not the mountable ones, which are in the hands
of nautilus.  I’ll fix the document.

-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling

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Message #15 received at 532645@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>

To: 532645@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#532645: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:59:14 -0500

Josselin Mouette wrote:
> 
> Since the migration to gio, rhythmbox apparently needs devices to be
> already mounted *in gvfs* to see it.  However, I don’t know of a daemon
> that can do the job apart from nautilus.  This is a design issue that

I'm running KDE 4, and once I removed it from fstab, it seemed to work
fine.  Amarok also wouldn't auto-detect it if it was in fstab, but it
let me manually specify it, unlike rhythmbox.

> affects non-GNOME users quite badly.  This is probably not something we
> can fix at the Debian level, so I suggest that you talk about it with
> upstream.

I have no idea where the right place to do this is, or how to do so...
can you forward this report, CCing me, or help out in some way?

> 
>> Also, do have gnome-volume-manager installed as documented in README.Debian.
> 
> Thanks for the notice, as this is outdated; gnome-volume-manager still
> handles some devices, but not the mountable ones, which are in the hands
> of nautilus.  I’ll fix the document.

OK.

-- John

Message #20 received at 532645@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>, 532645@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#532645: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:14:42 +0200

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Le mercredi 10 juin 2009 à 15:59 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit :
> I'm running KDE 4, and once I removed it from fstab, it seemed to work
> fine.  Amarok also wouldn't auto-detect it if it was in fstab, but it
> let me manually specify it, unlike rhythmbox.

Hmmm that may be different from what I thought, then. Is gvfsd running
when this happens? (In the case it works, and in the case it does not.)
Same question about gvfs-hal-volume-monitor.

> I have no idea where the right place to do this is, or how to do so...
> can you forward this report, CCing me, or help out in some way?

That would be either the RB mailing list or the GNOME bugzilla, but
let’s make sure this is not a gvfs problem before.

-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling

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Message #25 received at 532645@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>

To: 532645@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#532645: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:20:35 -0500

Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mercredi 10 juin 2009 à 15:59 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit :
>> I'm running KDE 4, and once I removed it from fstab, it seemed to work
>> fine.  Amarok also wouldn't auto-detect it if it was in fstab, but it
>> let me manually specify it, unlike rhythmbox.
> 
> Hmmm that may be different from what I thought, then. Is gvfsd running
> when this happens? (In the case it works, and in the case it does not.)
> Same question about gvfs-hal-volume-monitor.

Yes, apparently both have been running since yesterday.  I logged in
yesterday, so it's hard to say what started them.  I didn't start them
manually, that's for sure.

> 
>> I have no idea where the right place to do this is, or how to do so...
>> can you forward this report, CCing me, or help out in some way?
> 
> That would be either the RB mailing list or the GNOME bugzilla, but
> let’s make sure this is not a gvfs problem before.
> 

That's why I wanted to check with you first.  I have a history of
reporting a bug, and it being flagged INVALID because it's a bug in some
obscure library someplace.

-- John

Message #30 received at 532645@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>, 532645@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#532645: rhythmbox: Doesn't see ipod if it's in fstab

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:34:18 +0200

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reassign 532645 libglib2.0-0
thanks

Le mercredi 10 juin 2009 à 16:20 -0500, John Goerzen a écrit :
> > Hmmm that may be different from what I thought, then. Is gvfsd running
> > when this happens? (In the case it works, and in the case it does not.)
> > Same question about gvfs-hal-volume-monitor.
> 
> Yes, apparently both have been running since yesterday.  I logged in
> yesterday, so it's hard to say what started them.  I didn't start them
> manually, that's for sure.

OK, let’s add this to the countless issues of gvfs/gio with fstab
entries.

(Let me warn you that so far, no one in Debian seems really motivated to
understand what is broken, let alone propose solutions.)

Cheers,
-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling

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