Debian Bug report logs - #522237
ltsp-server-standalone: should depend on ndb-server OR nfs-kernel-server

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alexander Kurtz <kurtz.alex@googlemail.com>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: ltsp-server-standalone: should depend on ndb-server OR nfs-kernel-server

Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:01:00 +0200

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Package: ltsp-server-standalone
Version: 5.1.10-2
Severity: wishlist

ltsp-server-standalone does depend on ndb-server AND on
nfs-kernel-server. However most people use only one of them and end up 
with one useless server programm installed.

If you're using NFS this isn't that serious, since NBD has to be 
explicitly configured in /etc/inetd.conf. But NBD-users (like me) do 
have an unnecessary NFS-Server running.

Yes, I do realise that I could just install ltsp-server plus a dhcp 
server but I do actually like the comfort of only one package, and I
don't see why both must be depencies.

Best regards

Alexander Kurtz

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages ltsp-server-standalone depends on:
ii  dhcp3-server             3.1.1-6         DHCP server for automatic
IP addre
ii  libasound2-plugins       1.0.16-1+b1     ALSA library additional
plugins
ii  ltsp-server              5.1.10-2        basic LTSP server
environment
ii  ltspfs                   0.5.3-3         Fuse based remote
filesystem for L
ii  nbd-server               1:2.9.11-3      the Network Block Device
server
ii  nfs-kernel-server        1:1.1.2-6lenny1 support for NFS kernel
server
ii  openbsd-inetd [inet-supe 0.20080125-2    The OpenBSD Internet
Superserver
ii  openssh-server           1:5.1p1-5       secure shell server, an
rshd repla
ii  squashfs-tools           1:3.3-7         Tool to create and append
to squas
ii  tftpd-hpa                0.48-2.3        HPA's tftp server
ii  xauth                    1:1.0.3-2       X authentication utility

ltsp-server-standalone recommends no packages.

ltsp-server-standalone suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

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Message #10 received at 522237@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org>

To: Alexander Kurtz <kurtz.alex@googlemail.com>, 522237@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#522237: ltsp-server-standalone: should depend on ndb-server OR nfs-kernel-server

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:04:28 -0700

On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:01:00PM +0200, Alexander Kurtz wrote:
> ltsp-server-standalone does depend on ndb-server AND on
> nfs-kernel-server. However most people use only one of them and end up 
> with one useless server programm installed.
> 
> If you're using NFS this isn't that serious, since NBD has to be 
> explicitly configured in /etc/inetd.conf. But NBD-users (like me) do 
> have an unnecessary NFS-Server running.

nbd also is needed to support NBD swap. the intention of the
ltsp-server-standalone package is to have *all* functionality available.

> Yes, I do realise that I could just install ltsp-server plus a dhcp 
> server but I do actually like the comfort of only one package, and I
> don't see why both must be depencies.

users using NBD root wouldn't strictly need nfs-kernel-server at all, i
want to have a single package to install to ensure that the defaults for
Debian's ltsp to work.  i'd rather err on the side of
ltsp-server-standalone pulling in a little bit too much for non-default
scenarios than the other way around.

as you say, you can always install ltsp-server and whatever dependencies you
want.

live well,
  vagrant

Message #15 received at 522237@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alexander Kurtz <kurtz.alex@googlemail.com>

To: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org>

Cc: 522237@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#522237: ltsp-server-standalone: should depend on ndb-server OR nfs-kernel-server

Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:04:57 +0200

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Hi Vagrant,

Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2009, 15:04 -0700 schrieb Vagrant Cascadian:
> nbd also is needed to support NBD swap. the intention of the
> ltsp-server-standalone package is to have *all* functionality available.
> 
> i'd rather err on the side of
> ltsp-server-standalone pulling in a little bit too much for non-default
> scenarios than the other way around.
> 
> as you say, you can always install ltsp-server and whatever dependencies you
> want.
Thanks for clearing that. I do agree with you that
ltsp-server-standalone should depend on both if it's purpose is to have
*all* functionality available.

However, the description of ltsp-server-standalone currently is:

  This is the complete environment including a DHCP server to
  bootstrap the thin-clients.

  It ensures that remote sound using pulseaudio and remote device
  access using ltspfs is also available.

  LTSP stands for 'Linux Terminal Server Project'. 

Perhaps one could change the second paragraph to something like:

  It ensures that *all* functionality including remote sound using
  pulseaudio and remote device access using ltspfs is also available.

or similiar, just to clearify this...

Best regards

Alexander Kurtz

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Message #20 received at 522237@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org>

To: Alexander Kurtz <kurtz.alex@googlemail.com>, 522237@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#522237: ltsp-server-standalone: should depend on ndb-server OR nfs-kernel-server

Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:02:39 -0700

tags 522237 pending
thanks

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 02:04:57PM +0200, Alexander Kurtz wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 01.04.2009, 15:04 -0700 schrieb Vagrant Cascadian:
> > nbd also is needed to support NBD swap. the intention of the
> > ltsp-server-standalone package is to have *all* functionality available.
> > 
> > i'd rather err on the side of
> > ltsp-server-standalone pulling in a little bit too much for non-default
> > scenarios than the other way around.
> > 
> > as you say, you can always install ltsp-server and whatever dependencies you
> > want.
> Thanks for clearing that. I do agree with you that
> ltsp-server-standalone should depend on both if it's purpose is to have
> *all* functionality available.
> 
> However, the description of ltsp-server-standalone currently is:
> 
>   This is the complete environment including a DHCP server to
>   bootstrap the thin-clients.
> 
>   It ensures that remote sound using pulseaudio and remote device
>   access using ltspfs is also available.
> 
>   LTSP stands for 'Linux Terminal Server Project'. 
> 
> Perhaps one could change the second paragraph to something like:
> 
>   It ensures that *all* functionality including remote sound using
>   pulseaudio and remote device access using ltspfs is also available.

changed the description to:

 This is a complete LTSP server environment with all LTSP server features
 including a DHCP server, remote device access using ltspfs, remote sound using
 pulseaudio, network swap using NBD and more.

committed to bzr, and should be included in the next upload.

live well,
  vagrant

Message #27 received at 522237-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org>

To: 522237-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#522237: fixed in ltsp 5.1.73-1

Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 00:17:06 +0000

Source: ltsp
Source-Version: 5.1.73-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
ltsp, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

ltsp-client-builder_5.1.73-1_all.udeb
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp-client-builder_5.1.73-1_all.udeb
ltsp-client-core_5.1.73-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp-client-core_5.1.73-1_i386.deb
ltsp-client_5.1.73-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp-client_5.1.73-1_i386.deb
ltsp-server-standalone_5.1.73-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp-server-standalone_5.1.73-1_all.deb
ltsp-server_5.1.73-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp-server_5.1.73-1_all.deb
ltsp_5.1.73-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_5.1.73-1.diff.gz
ltsp_5.1.73-1.dsc
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_5.1.73-1.dsc
ltsp_5.1.73.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/ltsp/ltsp_5.1.73.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 522237@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org> (supplier of updated ltsp package)

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Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:40:27 -0700
Source: ltsp
Binary: ltsp-server ltsp-server-standalone ltsp-client-core ltsp-client ltsp-client-builder
Architecture: source all i386
Version: 5.1.73-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: LTSP Debian/Ubuntu Maintainers <pkg-ltsp-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@freegeek.org>
Description: 
 ltsp-client - LTSP client environment
 ltsp-client-builder - build an LTSP environment in the installer target (udeb)
 ltsp-client-core - LTSP client environment
 ltsp-server - basic LTSP server environment
 ltsp-server-standalone - complete LTSP server environment
Closes: 509640 522237 522654 522833 525203 527563
Changes: 
 ltsp (5.1.73-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * new upstream version:
     - added manpages for various localapps related programs
     - updated ltsp-build-client man page
     - translation updates:
       + French (fr), by by Jean-Baka Domelevo-Entfellner (Closes: #527563)
       + Finnish (fi), by Esko Arajärvi (Closes: #522833)
       + Russian (ru), by Yuri Kozlov (Closes: #522654)
     - if setfacl is present, use it to set write permissions on /dev/snd/* to
       ensure that pulseaudio can write to it.
     - added --purge-chroot commandline option
 .
    * ltsp-server:
      - install manpage for ltsp-localapps
      - fix ltsp-chroot manpage header so it ends up in section 8
      - add /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/Howto.Debian, taken from
        http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto (Closes: #509640)
 .
    * ltsp-client-core:
      - install manpages for ltsp-genmenu, ltsp-localappsd and xatomwait
 .
    * updated ltsp-server and ltsp-server-standalone descriptions to be more
      specific about which features each provides. thanks to Alexander Kurtz for
      the suggestion. (Closes: #522237)
 .
    * add Japanese (ja) po-debconf template translation by Hideki Yamane
      (Closes: #525203)
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