Debian Bug report logs - #521883
Have different regexps for system and user account names

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christophe <christophe.curis@free.fr>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: installation-reports: underscore not allowed for initial user account login

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:07:59 +0200

Package: installation-reports
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

When prompted for the login of the first user, a check is performed to ensure it is valid.
However, the character '_' (underscore) is rejected.
Is it thinkable to have it accepted?

-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: CD
Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-i386-powerpc-netinst.iso  [probably 28-Mar-2009]
Date: 29-Mar-2009

Machine: Compal IFL91
Partitions: n/a


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [O]
Detect network card:    [O]
Configure network:      [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:    [E]
Install tasks:          [O]
Install boot loader:    [E]
Overall install:        [O]

Comments/Problems:


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-- System Information:
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Message #10 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>

To: Christophe <christophe.curis@free.fr>, 521883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#521883: installation-reports: underscore not allowed for initial user account login

Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:45:14 +0200

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reassign 521883 adduser
retitle 521883 Should accept underscores in usernames by default
thanks

Quoting Christophe (christophe.curis@free.fr):
> Package: installation-reports
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> Hello,
> 
> When prompted for the login of the first user, a check is performed to ensure it is valid.
> However, the character '_' (underscore) is rejected.
> Is it thinkable to have it accepted?


Underscores are not accepted by default by the "adduser" command in
Debian (adduser is a high level command to create users, that's built
on top of the standard useradd commant from the passwd package.

The installer team decided to stick with the default behaviour of
adduser. If an underscore is acceptable, then accepting it should be
implemented in adduser before the installer accepts it.

I reassign this bug to adduser but I think this has been debated many
times already....I just prefer leaving the answer to adduser
maintainers

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Message #19 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>

To: Christophe <christophe.curis@free.fr>, 521883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#521883: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:52:57 +0200

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Control: tags -1 patch
Control: retitle -1 adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Hi!

On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:07:59 +0200, Christophe wrote:
> When prompted for the login of the first user, a check is performed
> to ensure it is valid.
> However, the character '_' (underscore) is rejected.
> Is it thinkable to have it accepted?

I've implemented a new SYS_NAME_REGEX so that at least system names
can accept _-prefixed values. This is the standard used on various
BSDs, it is vendor neutral (not just a Debianism), and it is short
causing way less display problems.

I don't think accepting _-prefixed names for normal users would be
wise, as that would remove the namespaced disctinction.

Having this in the archive would allow us to promote these system
names, and use them w/o needing the --force-badname option!

Thanks,
Guillem

[0001-adduser-Add-support-for-new-SYS_NAME_REGEX.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #28 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org>

To: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>, 521883@bugs.debian.org, 432562-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 15:54:41 -0800

Hello and apologies for the delay,

على الأحد 23 تشرين الأول 2016 ‫06:52، كتب Guillem Jover:
> Control: tags -1 patch
> Control: retitle -1 adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names
> 
[...]
> I've implemented a new SYS_NAME_REGEX so that at least system names
> can accept _-prefixed values. This is the standard used on various
> BSDs, it is vendor neutral (not just a Debianism), and it is short
> causing way less display problems.
> 
> I don't think accepting _-prefixed names for normal users would be
> wise, as that would remove the namespaced disctinction.
> 
> Having this in the archive would allow us to promote these system
> names, and use them w/o needing the --force-badname option!
> 

This is somewhat similar to #432562. The difference, as I see it, is
capital letters + compatibility with Ubuntu versus underscores +
compatibility with BSDs. I don't see that any of the breakage concerns
originally raised in #432562 apply to this suggestion.

I am also in favor of reducing unnecessary incompatibilities that can
cause confusion. People of #432562, do you have any comments?

regards
Afif

-- 
Afif Elghraoui | عفيف الغراوي
http://afif.ghraoui.name

Message #33 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>

To: Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org>

Cc: 521883@bugs.debian.org, 432562-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 01:30:36 +0100

Hi!

On Thu, 2016-11-24 at 15:54:41 -0800, Afif Elghraoui wrote:
> على الأحد 23 تشرين الأول 2016 ‫06:52، كتب Guillem Jover:
> > Control: tags -1 patch
> > Control: retitle -1 adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names
> > 
> [...]
> > I've implemented a new SYS_NAME_REGEX so that at least system names
> > can accept _-prefixed values. This is the standard used on various
> > BSDs, it is vendor neutral (not just a Debianism), and it is short
> > causing way less display problems.
> > 
> > I don't think accepting _-prefixed names for normal users would be
> > wise, as that would remove the namespaced disctinction.
> > 
> > Having this in the archive would allow us to promote these system
> > names, and use them w/o needing the --force-badname option!

> This is somewhat similar to #432562. The difference, as I see it, is
> capital letters + compatibility with Ubuntu versus underscores +
> compatibility with BSDs. I don't see that any of the breakage concerns
> originally raised in #432562 apply to this suggestion.

Well using _-prefix is vendor neutral, and shorter so in addition
causes less display issues.

> I am also in favor of reducing unnecessary incompatibilities that can
> cause confusion. People of #432562, do you have any comments?

At least Ian seemed to retract his previous support for Debian-style
names in <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/10/msg00577.html>,
but I'll let him confirm this.

I also think allowing Debian-style names by default would be a bad
idea, and I'm glad that bug is marked as wontfix. ;)

(You might also like to check the thread starting at
<https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/10/msg00546.html>.)

Thanks,
Guillem

Message #38 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org>

To: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>

Cc: 521883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:38:12 -0800

Control: tag -1 + confirmed

على الخميس 24 تشرين الثاني 2016 ‫16:30، كتب Guillem Jover:
>> I am also in favor of reducing unnecessary incompatibilities that can
>> > cause confusion. People of #432562, do you have any comments?
> At least Ian seemed to retract his previous support for Debian-style
> names in <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/10/msg00577.html>,
> but I'll let him confirm this.
> 
> I also think allowing Debian-style names by default would be a bad
> idea, and I'm glad that bug is marked as wontfix. ;)

I thought that bug report was simply about using a capital letter
prefix, not necessarily [dD]ebian-* (especially since it was an
Ubuntu-proposed change). Anyway...

> 
> (You might also like to check the thread starting at
> <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/10/msg00546.html>.)

Many thanks for these links. I've read through all of them, as well as
the much older threads and tickets that were linked from these discussions.

Since considering underscore-prefixed names as a valid format for system
user accounts does not necessarily mandate its use, I have no problem
accepting this. The campaign for making it the resolution of #248809 is
another matter.

Thanks and regards
Afif

-- 
Afif Elghraoui | عفيف الغراوي
http://afif.ghraoui.name

Message #45 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>, 432562@bugs.debian.org, 432562-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org>, 521883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432562: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 22:46:15 +0100

Control: severity -1 wishlist
thanks

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 01:30:36AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I also think allowing Debian-style names by default would be a bad
> idea, and I'm glad that bug is marked as wontfix. ;)

For the time being, it is going to stay wontfix, especially since
Debian's policy has been amended to recommend the underscore notation
for package-related system accounts. I am adjusting the severity
accordingly.

To allow upper case names for normal user accounts, I am still opposed
to doing this in Debian. I will consider advice from the TC should
somebody want to ask them.

Greetings
Marc

Message #50 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: Afif Elghraoui <afif@debian.org>, 521883@bugs.debian.org, 521883-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>, Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

Subject: Re: Bug#521883: adduser: Please accept underscore prefixed system names

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 22:54:12 +0100

Control: severity -1 important 
thanks

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 09:38:12PM -0800, Afif Elghraoui wrote:
> Since considering underscore-prefixed names as a valid format for system
> user accounts does not necessarily mandate its use, I have no problem
> accepting this. The campaign for making it the resolution of #248809 is
> another matter.

Since we discussed this for the last time, Debian policy was amended to
recommend _username for newly created system accounts. This clearly
means that adduser should accept prefixed underscores for system
accounts.

In my opinion, this automatically means that normal user accounts should
not have an underscore prefix, this is especially valid for accounts
created from d-i. The local admin is of course free to ask for trouble
with adduser --force-badname, but the installer should not allow this.

The original intent of this bug report was to allow the installer to
create underscore-prefixed user accounts. For this case, my resolution
is "wontfix", but we should change the behavior for adduser --system.

I am also willing to have this bug report closed with the adduser
--system modification after so many years. If the original submitter
does still care they're invited to file a new bug.

Greetings
Marc

Message #64 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: 521883@bugs.debian.org, 521883-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Christophe <christophe.curis@free.fr>, GuillemJover@fan.zugschlus.de

Subject: Bug#521883: adduser: Have different regexps for system and user account names

Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:19:35 +0100

<guillem@debian.org>
Bcc: 
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Control: retitle -1 Have different regexps for system and user account names
thanks

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 03:52:57PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I've implemented a new SYS_NAME_REGEX so that at least system names
> can accept _-prefixed values. This is the standard used on various
> BSDs, it is vendor neutral (not just a Debianism), and it is short
> causing way less display problems.

I think we should eventually accept this patch and then change the
default regexps according to the discussion we had in policy and
debian-devel in March 2022.

The rest of this message is communication internal to the adduser team
and sent to the other participants of this bug as information.

Adduser should check system and user account names against different
regular expressions. Currently, we just have NAME_REGEX. The system
account should be matched against a new expression called
SYS_NAME_REGEX, configurable in adduser.conf just as NAME_REGEX.
Guillem's patch seems to correctly do that.

The command line option --force-badname should switch off both checks.
Guillem's patch seems to correctly do that

The default for SYS_NAME_REGEX should be [_[:lower:]][-_[:lower:][:digit:]]*

Document (README.adduser-for-packages, adduser(8)) that --force-badname
is no longer needed for policy compliant system user names. Document
SYS_NAME_REGEX in adduser(8), but not in config file. Document
(README.adduser-for-packages, adduser(8)) that changing SYS_NAME_REGEX
to something more restrictive might make packages break. If you don't
feel like doing that documentation, just leave it out and I'll
contribute the wording.

For a user account, the default should be
[[:lower:][:upper:]][-_[:lower:][:upper:][:digit:]]* Document
(adduser(8)) that dots are deliberately not allowed and that local
administrators are invited to add dots to the regexp and to file bugs
against packages that still break while using dot notation in chown. If
you don't feel like doing that documentation, just leave it out and I'll
contribute the wording.

Also document that --force-badname is no longer needed for user names beginning with underscore.

Guillem's patch also adds some more functionality to the configuration
file parser and the internal format. Please check whether this matches
what we intend to do.

Greetings
Marc

Message #72 received at 521883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: 521883@bugs.debian.org, 521883-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Christophe <christophe.curis@free.fr>, guillem@debian.org

Subject: Bug#521883: adduser: Have different regexps for system and user account names

Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 08:32:27 +0100

Control: retitle -1 Have different regexps for system and user account names
thanks

I apologize for botching up the first instance of this message. The
following is identical to message #64 and quoted for completeness.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 03:52:57PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I've implemented a new SYS_NAME_REGEX so that at least system names
> can accept _-prefixed values. This is the standard used on various
> BSDs, it is vendor neutral (not just a Debianism), and it is short
> causing way less display problems.

I think we should eventually accept this patch and then change the
default regexps according to the discussion we had in policy and
debian-devel in March 2022.

The rest of this message is communication internal to the adduser team
and sent to the other participants of this bug as information.

Adduser should check system and user account names against different
regular expressions. Currently, we just have NAME_REGEX. The system
account should be matched against a new expression called
SYS_NAME_REGEX, configurable in adduser.conf just as NAME_REGEX.
Guillem's patch seems to correctly do that.

The command line option --force-badname should switch off both checks.
Guillem's patch seems to correctly do that

The default for SYS_NAME_REGEX should be [_[:lower:]][-_[:lower:][:digit:]]*

Document (README.adduser-for-packages, adduser(8)) that --force-badname
is no longer needed for policy compliant system user names. Document
SYS_NAME_REGEX in adduser(8), but not in config file. Document
(README.adduser-for-packages, adduser(8)) that changing SYS_NAME_REGEX
to something more restrictive might make packages break. If you don't
feel like doing that documentation, just leave it out and I'll
contribute the wording.

For a user account, the default should be
[[:lower:][:upper:]][-_[:lower:][:upper:][:digit:]]* Document
(adduser(8)) that dots are deliberately not allowed and that local
administrators are invited to add dots to the regexp and to file bugs
against packages that still break while using dot notation in chown. If
you don't feel like doing that documentation, just leave it out and I'll
contribute the wording.

Also document that --force-badname is no longer needed for user names beginning with underscore.

Guillem's patch also adds some more functionality to the configuration
file parser and the internal format. Please check whether this matches
what we intend to do.

Greetings
Marc

Message #84 received at 521883-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: 521883-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#521883 marked as pending in adduser

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 14:47:45 +0000

Control: tag -1 pending

Hello,

Bug #521883 in adduser reported by you has been fixed in the
Git repository and is awaiting an upload. You can see the commit
message below and you can check the diff of the fix at:

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/adduser/-/commit/cf2b488599743b2900155745267da0e4b2a1e3de

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Implement SYS_NAME_REGEX.

Closes: #521883
Closes: #432562
------------------------------------------------------------------------

(this message was generated automatically)
-- 
Greetings

https://bugs.debian.org/521883

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Subject: Bug#521883: fixed in adduser 3.122

Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 19:03:47 +0000

Source: adduser
Source-Version: 3.122
Done: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
adduser, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 521883@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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   [ Marc Haber ]
   * improve package description.
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   * clean out EXTRA_GROUPS to only contain users.
     Thanks to Daniel Keast. (Closes: #849265)
   * add SECURITY section to manual pages.
   * add test for backups of home directory.
   * improve and update lintian overrides.
   * Formatting changes to manual pages.
     Thanks to Markus Hiereth. (Closes: #874560)
   * fix some typos in manual pages.
   * set VERBOSE and DEBUG envvars in deluser as well. (Closes: #1006897)
   * add documentation about adduser being a policy layer. (Closes: #1007785)
   * try to clarify system account terminology (policy vs system).
     (Closes: #1006975)
   * Document that only adduser --system is idempotent. (Closes: #723572)
   * error out for two-argument addgroup.
     Thanks to Mike Dornberger. (Closes: #664869)
   * make --add_extra_groups into --add-extra-groups. (Closes: #1014395)
   * --force-badname is now --allow-badname. (Closes: #1014448)
   * update turkish debconf translation.
     Thanks to Atila KOÇ. (Closes: #908997)
   * Update Russian debconf translation.
     Thanks to Lev Lamberov. (Closes: #920739)
   * Update Danish debconf translation (Closes: #923059)
   * Update Italian debconf translation.
     Thanks to Luca Monducci. (Closes: #969217)
   * Update German man page translation.
     Thanks to Helge Kreutzmann. (Closes: #977678)
   * Update European Portuguese translation of man page.
     Thanks to Américo Monteiro. (Closes: #925511)
   * disable translated manpages, none left for the time being.
   * deprecate planned directory service support.
   * Add docs about adduser.local being the place to interact with DS,
   * Some improvements to autopkgtests.
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   [ Matt Barry ]
   * System account home dir defaults to /nonexistent. (Closes: #679746)
   * do not accept all-numeric user names. (Closes: #891748)
   * prompts need y/n/empty(default).
   * Implement SYS_DIR_MODE. (Closes: #1008081, #202943, #398793)
   * Implement SYS_NAME_REGEX. (Closes: #521883, #432562)
   * Deprecate SETGID_HOME.
     Add NEWS/TODO items. (Closes: #643559, #979385, #1008091, #643559)
   * Fix ignored files for --remove-all-files.
     (Closes: #1001863, #588872, #926262, #992163)
   * Redefines the default NO_DEL_PATHS to avoid unnecessary
     scanning.
   * Change deluser_files test to use gzip.
   * Fix deletion of sockets/pipes. (Closes: #685532)
   * Simplify checkname sub.  (Closes: #1006941)
   * Adds support for lock files. (Closes: #983405)
   * Username validity testing framework.
   * Add --allow-all-names to bypass --force-badname.
     (Closes: #520037, #774046)
   * use warnf instead of printf in some places. (Closes: #675804)
   * Support tar --auto-compress for backups. (Closes: #896916)
   * Many improvements to autopkgtests. (Closes: 239825)
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   [ Jason Franklin ]
   * Allow for cloned-UID users in group member lists.
     Thanks to Daniel Heimann. (Closes: #701110)
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