Debian Bug report logs - #513974
RFP: openfwwf -- Open Firmware for Broadcom b43 wlan devices

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Stefan Lippers-Hollmann <s.L-H@gmx.de>

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:30:07 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Stefan Lippers-Hollmann <s.L-H@gmx.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: openfwwf -- Open Firmware for Broadcom b43 wlan devices
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:28:34 +0100
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Package: wnpp
Owner: "Stefan Lippers-Hollmann" <s.l-h@gmx.de>
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>

* Package name    : openfwwf
  Version         : 5.1
  Upstream Author : Lorenzo Nava <navalorenx@gmail.com>
                    Francesco Gringoli <francesco.gringoli@ing.unibs.it>
                    Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
                    University of Brescia
* URL             : http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/
* License         : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: assembler (b43-asm)
  Description     : Open firmware for Broadcom BCM43xx (b43) wlan devices
 This package contains the open source firmware alternative for Broadcom
 AirForce BCM43xx wireless lan chipsets, which can be used in combination
 with the in-kernel b43 module of kernel 2.6.30 or above.
 .
 Known supported boards:
  * BCM4306
  * BCM4311/1
  * BCM4318
  * BCM4320

This package build-depends on b43-asm, which is the required assembler to build
the binary microcode for Broadcom AirForce BCM43xx wlan chipsets with a core 
revision >= 5. OpenFWWF in this packaging form requires kernel >=2.6.30 
(current wireless-testing) to function without further changes, as the 
following commit[1] is required to look for the firmware at 
/etc/modprobe.d/openfwwf/ (and to disable hardware encryption automatically).
Testing on kernel >= 2.6.25 should succeed by symlinking /lib/firmware/b43/
to /lib/firmware/b43-open/ (attention, this would clash with b43-fwcutter!) 
and adding "options b43 nohwcrypt=1 qos=0" to /etc/modprobe.d/openfwwf.

A preliminary packaging (tested with BCM4306 and a patched kernel 2.6.28) 
can be found at:
	Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.berlios.de/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk
	Vcs-Browser: http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/
	             http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/

Given that the development of OpenFWWF is currently very active, team 
maintenance would be ideal and moving the project to alioth or adding 
additional developers to the current subversion repository should be 
considered. CC'ing the b43-fwcutter maintainer as requested.

The following information explains the current limitations of OpenFWWF and
their influence on the packaging.
	http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/debian/README.Debian

Regards
	Stefan Lippers-Hollmann

[1]	http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-testing.git;a=commitdiff;h=0faa1094b4f6bae7705d845fee87a1b4a3501178
	From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
	Subject: b43: Automatically probe for opensource firmware

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
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From: Onkar Shinde <onkarshinde@ubuntu.com>
To: 513974@bugs.debian.org
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:14:25 +0530
I am interested in testing this in Debian. My laptop has wireless card
based on 4306 chipset. Please let me know when you have a package
ready for testing.


Cheers,
Onkar




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From: "Stefan Lippers-Hollmann" <s.L-H@gmx.de>
To: Onkar Shinde <onkarshinde@ubuntu.com>, 513974@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#513974:
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:45:59 +0100
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Hi

Sorry about the late reply, I've been traveling till this evening and am 
still a little busy till the end of the week.

On Monday 09 November 2009, Onkar Shinde wrote:
> I am interested in testing this in Debian. My laptop has wireless card
> based on 4306 chipset. Please let me know when you have a package
> ready for testing.

The packages (b43-asm and openfwwf) are basically ready since february and 
have just waited for a compatible kernel (>=2.6.31) to enter Debian/ 
unstable, because the proposed (kernel-) backports have been ignored by 
the kernel team so far.

Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.berlios.de/fullstory/b43-asm/trunk
Vcs-Browser: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/fullstory/b43-asm/trunk
http://sidux.com/debian/pool/fix.main/b/b43-asm/

Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.berlios.de/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk
Vcs-Browser: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/
http://sidux.com/debian/pool/fix.main/o/openfwwf/

I've been successfully using them with BCM4306 and BCM4318 (and have 
positive feedback for BCM4311) since kernel 2.6.28 (with the required
backports):
http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/debian/README.Debian

What's left to do, in order to upload them to Debian proper (I hope I can 
find a little time next weekend to do the final cosmetics and talk with 
the potential sponsor):
- add get-orig-source to b43-asm, to fetch sources from upstream git 
  (there are no release tarballs, nor "ever" will according to upstream)
- either add a boilerplate README.source to explain quilt usage or moving 
  to source version "3.0 (quilt)", given that I really hate those useless 
  README.source boilerplates just for standard quilt (or dpatch) usage, 
  I'd personally tend to v3.0 - but this depends on the preferences of the 
  potential sponsor of coourse.
- adding lintian overrides where needed <-- neither upstream has any 
  intention to drop an upstream changelog in a standard location
- bump standards version to 3.8.3 for b43-asm, no (further) changes 
  necessary

OpenFWWF isn't perfect, the hardware coverage is severely limited and there
are known bugs (under investigation upstream)[1], furthermore the source, 
even though being the genuine preferred form of modification is basically 
read-only, without learning the bcm-v4 specifications by heart and serious 
efforts to understand the state-machine and having access to good signal 
analyzers and wlan testing equipment - but it still just works for rev 5 
core b43 cards, including ap support and noisy environments.

> Cheers,
> Onkar

Regards
	Stefan Lippers-Hollmann

[1]	http://www.ing.unibs.it/openfwwf/
[2]	http://bcm-v4.sipsolutions.net/
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Message #22 received at 513974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Josue Abarca <jmaslibre@debian.org.gt>
To: 513974@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Tested - It works.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:02:21 -0600
I have been successfully using your packages with BCM4311 (rev
01). Kernel 2.6.31-1-686 on Debian Unstable.

Now that Linux 2.6.31 is on Debian unstable, are there any other
problems to get them into unstable?.

Thanks for your work o/.

-- 
Josué M. Abarca S.




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From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
To: 513973@bugs.debian.org, 513974-quiet@bugs.debian.org, 513973-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Any chance to get b43-asm and openfwwf into Debian?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:01:30 +0100
What is the status of these ITPs?  Now that sid has Linux 2.6.32, lack
of kernel support should no longer hold back these packages.

Regards,
        Sven
    




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From: "Andreas B. Mundt" <andi.mundt@web.de>
To: 513974@bugs.debian.org
Subject: free firmware in squeeze?
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:28:04 +0200
Hi, 

running the free firmware for more than a year now on my machine
without problems (BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]), I would appreciate it
very much to have this shipped in squeeze. 

Any need for testing or help I could provide to make that happen?

Thanks,

	Andi




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From: xavier <xavier.cartron@etu.univ-nantes.fr>
To: 513974@bugs.debian.org
Subject: any news?
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:53:06 +0100
Since last time, is there any news about openfwwf in debian? With the
new squeeze, will it be included in sid? A free package should be
better than nnon-free broadcom-sta, don't you think?




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From: "Stefan Lippers-Hollmann" <s.L-H@gmx.de>
To: control@bugs.debian.org
Cc: xavier <xavier.cartron@etu.univ-nantes.fr>, 513974@bugs.debian.org, 513973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#513974: any news?
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:38:07 +0100
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retitle 513973 RFP: b43-asm -- assembler and disassembler for Broadcom BCM43xx firmware
retitle 513974 RFP: openfwwf -- Open Firmware for Broadcom b43 wlan devices
thanks

Hi

On Wednesday 16 February 2011, xavier wrote:
> Since last time, is there any news about openfwwf in debian? With the
> new squeeze, will it be included in sid? A free package should be
> better than nnon-free broadcom-sta, don't you think?

[ Most of the talk below is about OpenFWWF and doesn't apply to 
  b43-asm, but the only reason to upload b43-asm is in order to build
  OpenFWWF - so it's closely related ]

The big problem I see with OpenFWWF, is upstream maintenance, which 
appears to be almost dead. One of the main reasons why I didn't push 
for getting it uploaded to Debian yet, is "We received reports about 
firmware problems with PCMCIA 4306/18 based cards. We are working to 
support them." [1], [2], which was acknowledged as a bug at 2009-05-08,
but nothing has happened since... (and no, the Maranello firmware 
release is not a solution and doesn't work for "normal" IEEE802.11 
operations and is neither usable by an unpatched linux kernel). While 
I personally haven't noticed these issues on my BCM4306/3 based
devices (also in actual use as an access point) in practice and have 
gotten good feedback for bcm4311/1 (just like with some light testing 
on BCM4318/2), there have been according bugreports on the b43 mailing 
list and b43 upstream still doesn't accept bugreports in combination 
with OpenFWWF because of these known bugs.

This means for uploading OpenFWWF to Debian, that the potential 
maintainer has to effectively become upstream in order to react to
inevitable bugreports, which is everything but simple for OpenFWWF.
Yes, OpenFWWF really is "the preferred form of modification" and it's
commented exceptionally well. Yes, there are high level design 
specifications on [1] and in depth reverse engineering specifications 
at [3]. But the problem remains that actually changing this firmware is
everything but easy and requires an intimate familiarity with those 
specifications and access to spectrum analyzers and related gear, to 
retain a minium of conformance testing - which is rather important for
transmitting devices. 

At this moment, I unfortunately don't feel qualified to take that 
burden without an active upstream, who could take a look at eventual 
(and known buggy) issues. Therefore I can't be a responsible maintainer
for OpenFWWF in Debian. b43-asm is actively maintained, but my only 
reason for maintaining b43-asm is in order to build OpenFWWF, so it 
doesn't make a lot of sense to upload it without OpenFWWF on the 
horizon.

The packaging for both b43-asm [4] and OpenFWWF [5] themselves should 
be in a good state. OpenFWWF is up to date and the packaging should be
basically complete, b43-asm just needs a few minutes of work to add a
"get-orig-source" target (it's maintained solely in git and there are 
no upstream tarballs or formal releases) and to update it to current 
git HEAD. Given that I'm successfully using OpenFWWF myself, I will 
continue to maintain the packaging for both packages and would be 
willing to co-maintain both in Debian, but I simply can't effectively 
provide upstream maintenance for OpenFWWF - which prevents me from 
being a responsible maintainer for it in Debian. It's a pity, but I 
can't upload anything with known bugs - even if I've never noticed them
myself - to Debian.

Regards
	Stefan Lippers-Hollmann

[1]	http://www.ing.unibs.it/~openfwwf/
[2]	http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg57293.html
[3]	http://bcm-v4.sipsolutions.net
[4]	Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.berlios.de/fullstory/b43-asm/trunk
	Vcs-Browser: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/fullstory/b43-asm/trunk
[5]	Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.berlios.de/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk
	Vcs-Browser: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/fullstory/openfwwf/trunk/
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Changed Bug title to 'RFP: openfwwf -- Open Firmware for Broadcom b43 wlan devices' from 'ITP: openfwwf -- Open Firmware for Broadcom b43 wlan devices' Request was from "Stefan Lippers-Hollmann" <s.L-H@gmx.de> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:39:13 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by "Stefan Lippers-Hollmann" <s.l-h@gmx.de>. Request was from Raphael Geissert <geissert@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:28:21 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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