Debian Bug report logs - #513888
Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report

Package: buildd.emdebian.org; Maintainer for buildd.emdebian.org is Debian Embedded Team <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:33:01 UTC

Severity: normal

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Bug#513888; Package installation-reports. (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:33:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>, Debian Embedded <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:31:02 +0100
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: businesscard ISO in VMware Fusion
Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-Lenny-DI-rc2-amd64-businesscard.iso
Date: 20090202

Machine: VMware Fusion
Processor: 1
Memory: 384Mb
Partitions: guided, full disk, single partition

Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [O]
Detect network card:    [O]
Configure network:      [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:    [E]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:    [ ]
Install tasks:          [ ]
Install boot loader:    [ ]
Overall install:        [ ]

Comments/Problems:

 - Installer window can be moved around by holding ctrl-command and
dragging. This is easier than you think when using VMware and trying
to escape the window, and it's quite confusing.
 - Graphical Automated Install asked for preseed location (eg
www.emdebian.org) and seemed to download ok but base system install
failed with:
Debootstrap Error
Release file signed by unknown key (key id B5B7720097BB3B58) which I
note is referenced in the preseed file ala:
d-i apt-setup/local0/key string http://www.emdebian.org/0x97BB3B58.txt
 - This apparently works for Neil Williams (copied):
http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2009/02/msg00007.html

Otherwise looking good - much improved!

Sam




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Message #10 received at 513888@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
To: 513888@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Update
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:45:42 +0100
The signing error was resolved by going to a shell and manually executing:

d-i preseed/early_command string wget -O /tmp/keyring.udeb
http://www.emdebian.org/d-i/emdebian-archive-keyring-udeb_1.4.3.1_all.udeb
&& udpkg -i /tmp/keyring.udeb

Not sure why this wasn't done because the preseed.cfg file was
successfully downloaded from
http://www.emdebian.org/d-i/lenny/preseed.cfg according to
/var/log/syslog

Cheers,

Sam
http://samj.net/




Bug reassigned from package `installation-reports' to `buildd.emdebian.org'. Request was from Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:51:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #17 received at 513888@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
To: Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>
Cc: Debian Embedded <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>, 513888@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:55:51 +0100
Hi Neil,

Sorry it's 513888 (copied) - reassigned as requested.

> I suspect a problem with using a VM.

Perhaps. I'm more inclined to think something's 64 when it should be
32 or vice versa (actually there was another error about looping and
binfmt that I ran into). VMs should definitely be a target for
emdebian though, even if just for dev work.

>> Release file signed by unknown key (key id B5B7720097BB3B58) which I

> Do you have a file: '/tmp/keyring.udeb' after the install?

No. I suspect you can only have one 'preseed/early_command' and that
it's being overwritten by the grip-config line.

> This could be a repository problem - I'll have to check the amd64 data.

Thanks. I think it's missing a 64 bit kernel for a start.

> Do you have a way of testing i386 ? AMD64 is not a representative
> architecture for Emdebian, really, it's only in the repository because
> it's easier for me to test debootstrap etc.

I've been trying to get i386 up and running as well - downloaded the
businesscard iso and got further, but then it told me there was no
busybox and failed at the end of installing the base system.

> debootstrap on amd64 *does* locate the relevant key - cdebootstrap
> cannot. This will only be fixable *after* Lenny is released and a fix
> is already in-hand after getting appropriate agreement from the release
> team.

Cool.

> I'm now going to have to explain this bug to D-I - I don't get
> notification of the bug report itself so please let me know the bug
> number - or preferably re-assign the bug report to the
> buildd.emdebian.org pseudo-package. Thanks.

Done.

Sam




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Bug#513888; Package buildd.emdebian.org. (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #22 received at 513888@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>
To: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
Cc: Debian Embedded <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>, 513888@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:23:13 +0000
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:55:51 +0100
Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote:

> Sorry it's 513888 (copied) - reassigned as requested.

Thanks.
 
> > I suspect a problem with using a VM.
> 
> Perhaps. I'm more inclined to think something's 64 when it should be
> 32 or vice versa 

I can't see how that would happen, so if you have any idea how it could
actually occur, please add it to this bug report.

> (actually there was another error about looping and
> binfmt that I ran into). VMs should definitely be a target for
> emdebian though, even if just for dev work.

Maybe. I don't use VM so I'm utterly reliant on others for such issues.
 
> >> Release file signed by unknown key (key id B5B7720097BB3B58) which I
> 
> > Do you have a file: '/tmp/keyring.udeb' after the install?
> 
> No. I suspect you can only have one 'preseed/early_command' and that
> it's being overwritten by the grip-config line.

Do you know of any documentation for such a restriction?

One way to test this is to download the current pre-seed file, comment
out the second early_command and put it onto another website somewhere
in the /d-i/lenny/ directory then specifying that domain to the
pre-seeding question.
 
> > This could be a repository problem - I'll have to check the amd64 data.
> 
> Thanks. I think it's missing a 64 bit kernel for a start.

Probably.
 
> > Do you have a way of testing i386 ? AMD64 is not a representative
> > architecture for Emdebian, really, it's only in the repository because
> > it's easier for me to test debootstrap etc.
> 
> I've been trying to get i386 up and running as well - downloaded the
> businesscard iso and got further, but then it told me there was no
> busybox and failed at the end of installing the base system.

It could also be a problem with the businesscard iso - I've been
testing with a USB stick installer, following the guide for the
installation of Lenny on the Acer Aspire1.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne

-- 


Neil Williams
=============
http://www.data-freedom.org/
http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/

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Message #27 received at 513888@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
To: Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>
Cc: Debian Embedded <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>, 513888@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:30:59 +0100
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> wrote:

> Maybe. I don't use VM so I'm utterly reliant on others for such issues.

You would likely find they make your life a lot easier (snapshots et
al are incredibly useful for development). Check out VMware's free
server & player products or roll up your sleeves with Xen. OTOH if
you're managing with debootstrap/chroot/etc. then maybe that's enough.

>> No. I suspect you can only have one 'preseed/early_command' and that
>> it's being overwritten by the grip-config line.
>
> Do you know of any documentation for such a restriction?

No, but it makes sense for a variable based system. Set the variable
twice and the old value will be overwritten.

> One way to test this is to download the current pre-seed file, comment
> out the second early_command and put it onto another website somewhere
> in the /d-i/lenny/ directory then specifying that domain to the
> pre-seeding question.

I've already done that and I'm pretty sure I've tried exactly this
test (which worked incidentally, except I'm not sure if grip-config
was installed)

Cheers,

Sam




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Bug#513888; Package buildd.emdebian.org. (Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #32 received at 513888@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org>
To: Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net>
Cc: Debian Embedded <debian-embedded@lists.debian.org>, 513888@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Emdebian Grip w/ D-I Daily Installation Report
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:18:05 +0000
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:30:59 +0100
Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > Maybe. I don't use VM so I'm utterly reliant on others for such issues.
> 
> You would likely find they make your life a lot easier (snapshots et
> al are incredibly useful for development). Check out VMware's free
> server & player products or roll up your sleeves with Xen.

Sorry, that just isn't going to happen. There is only so much time. VM
is simply not a priority for me. Personally, I doubt that VM would make
anything easier and the frustration spent in tackling Xen and getting
everything else working again is not something I want to experience. I
do more than just Emdebian and free software and I simply cannot
accept interruptions to such tasks. Ultimately, I simply don't trust VM
to be an accurate representation of installation on a real machine,
partially because I've never trusted emulation of any kind. I'll use VM
for websites / hosting but not much else.

> >> No. I suspect you can only have one 'preseed/early_command' and that
> >> it's being overwritten by the grip-config line.
> >
> > Do you know of any documentation for such a restriction?
> 
> No, but it makes sense for a variable based system. Set the variable
> twice and the old value will be overwritten.

Pre-seeding and debconf don't necessarily work that way - after all,
the keyring does work for other tests outside a VM with the same
pre-seeding file.

> > One way to test this is to download the current pre-seed file, comment
> > out the second early_command and put it onto another website somewhere
> > in the /d-i/lenny/ directory then specifying that domain to the
> > pre-seeding question.
> 
> I've already done that and I'm pretty sure I've tried exactly this
> test (which worked incidentally, except I'm not sure if grip-config
> was installed)

grip-config is brought in later when preparing the actual installation
via a dependency override.

-- 


Neil Williams
=============
http://www.data-freedom.org/
http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/

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