Debian Bug report logs - #503687
kicker won't hide immediately

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:57:46 +0100

Package: kicker
Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2
Severity: normal


Kicker isn't playing peekaboo correctly. It's set to automatically hide
itself immediately, but removing the mouse from it leaves it up there
for seconds at a time. My impression is that at each trial it stays 
up there longer. Changing some aspect of its configuration seems to
help for a while (I just made it sensitive on the left corner only).
Turning off animation (set to fast at the mo) seems to improve it
greatly.

The animation may be the thing.  Yes it is!  Just tested.  Perhaps its
timing is on a different scale of ten!  I've just turned animation back
on and now it's stuck.  I've counted to about 60.  Bringing the mouse
over it and taking it away a time makes it disappear, though.  Putting
the mouse over it doesn't make it appear.  Putting it over a second time
makes it appear, and then it sticks.


Yes, with anim on it looks as though only half the number of mouseover
on and off events are getting through. That explains it.

Peter



-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers hardy-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'hardy-updates'), (500, 'hardy-security'), (500, 'hardy-backports'), (500, 'hardy'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) (ignored: LC_ALL set to C)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kicker depends on:
ii  kdebase-data    4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2 shared data files for the KDE base
ii  kdelibs4c2a     4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1 core libraries and binaries for al
ii  libacl1         2.2.47-2                 Access control list shared library
ii  libart-2.0-2    2.3.20-2                 Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libattr1        1:2.4.43-1               Extended attribute shared library
ii  libaudio2       1.9.1-5                  Network Audio System - shared libr
ii  libc6           2.7-15                   GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libfontconfig1  2.6.0-1                  generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype6    2.3.5-1ubuntu4.8.04.1    FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgcc1         1:4.3.2-1                GCC support library
ii  libice6         2:1.0.4-1                X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libidn11        1.10-2.1                 GNU libidn library, implementation
ii  libjpeg62       6b-14                    The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  libkonq4        4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2 core libraries for Konqueror
ii  libpng12-0      1.2.27-2                 PNG library - runtime
ii  libqt3-mt       3:3.3.8-b-0ubuntu3       Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii  libsm6          2:1.0.3-2                X11 Session Management library
ii  libstdc++6      4.3.2-1                  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6        2:1.1.5-2                X11 client-side library
ii  libxau6         1:1.0.3-3                X11 authorisation library
ii  libxcomposite1  1:0.4.0-3                X11 Composite extension library
ii  libxcursor1     1:1.1.9-1                X cursor management library
ii  libxext6        2:1.0.4-1                X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxfixes3      1:4.0.3-2                X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxft2         2.1.12-3                 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii  libxi6          2:1.1.3-1                X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1    2:1.0.3-2                X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxrandr2      2:1.2.3-1                X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender1     1:0.9.4-2                X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxt6          1:1.0.5-3                X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii  libxtst6        2:1.0.3-1                X11 Testing -- Resource extension 
ii  zlib1g          1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12        compression library - runtime

kicker recommends no packages.

Versions of packages kicker suggests:
ii  khelpcente 4:4.0.0.really.3.5.9.dfsg.1-5 help center for KDE
ii  kicker-app 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1      applets for Kicker, the KDE panel
ii  menu       2.1.41                        generates programs menu for all me

-- no debconf information

Message #10 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Armin Berres <trigger@space-based.de>

To: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es>, 503687@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:35:09 +0100

On Mon, 27 Oct 08 15:57, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Package: kicker
> Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
           eeeeeeeeek

This is Debian...

Message #15 received at 503687-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com>

To: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es>, 503687-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:40:04 -0200

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On Monday 27 October 2008 12:57:46 Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Package: kicker
> Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2

Please, assign ubuntu's bugs in Ubuntu's BTS


-- 
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/

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Message #20 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es>

To: "Armin Berres" <trigger@space-based.de>

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:38:55 +0100 (MET)

"Also sprach Armin Berres:"
> On Mon, 27 Oct 08 15:57, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> > Package: kicker
> > Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>            eeeeeeeeek
> 
> This is Debian...

And this is ubuntu upgraded to debian. I agree that kicker was working
yesterday before I ran upgrade, which seems to have swapped in the
ubuntu kicker for the debian one (arms race).  OTOH I noticed that the
bug report went to the ubuntu maintainer ...  so who are you?  :)

Peter

Message #25 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com>

To: ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es, 503687@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:36:59 -0200

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On Monday 27 October 2008 13:38:55 Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> "Also sprach Armin Berres:"
>
> > On Mon, 27 Oct 08 15:57, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> > > Package: kicker
> > > Version: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy2
> >
> >            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >            eeeeeeeeek
> >
> > This is Debian...
>
> And this is ubuntu upgraded to debian. I agree that kicker was working
> yesterday before I ran upgrade, which seems to have swapped in the
> ubuntu kicker for the debian one (arms race).  OTOH I noticed that the
> bug report went to the ubuntu maintainer ...  so who are you?  :)
>
> Peter

You shouldn't upgrade Ubuntu with Debian :-) (of course you can, but you are 
on your own) I don't know if the bug got to Ubuntu's maintainer, but it did on 
Debian's side :-)

Anyway, this bug is against an ubuntu package in a mixed system, so it is 
closed.


-- 
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups
-- alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and fat.
  Alex Levine

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/

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Message #30 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Modestas Vainius <modestas@vainius.eu>

To: ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es, 503687@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:13 +0200

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Hello,

pirmadienis 27 Spalis 2008, Peter T. Breuer rašė:
> And this is ubuntu upgraded to debian.
Nooo, this is NOT supported. You have to reinstall or at least do some pinning 
at force level (>1000). But even then the end result won't be supported...


-- 
Modestas Vainius <modestas@vainius.eu>

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Message #35 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com>

To: 503687@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:16:40 -0400

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It won't be supported on the Kubuntu side either.  K/Ubuntu strives for source 
compatibility with Debian as much as we can get, but there is no guarantee of 
binary compatibility at all.  

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Message #40 received at 503687@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@inv.it.uc3m.es>

To: 503687@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#503687: kicker won't hide immediately

Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:41:45 +0100 (MET)

Re:  ii  kicker         4:3.5.9.dfsg.1 desktop panel for KDE

Bug still there in pure debian. And it's been isolated.

"Also sprach ptb:"
> If you're interested ... , it's a fault I've
> observed before on wholly debian installations.  It seems to come and

Yerrs, I've now had a while in which to take kicker and all supporting
libraries back to debian pure packages (FWIW I backed every single
package originating from ubuntu and mentioning the word "KDE" in its
description down the couple of patch levels required to debian unstable,
just to be thorough, as well as backing down everything in kicker's
dynamic or static loading chain - I straced it) and can report that the
issue is in debian too and I've isolated it.

Turns out I could have saved myself the work.  The problem isolates to
the following change in my ./share/config/kickerrc.  I must have changed
it after installing ubuntu's kicker, just working through to check its
config options ..  then I attributed the problem to the change to ubuntu
kicker instead of the change to the config file.  The problem persists
and goes away as the config file is changed, irrespective of the kicker
package installed, debian's or ubuntu's, with or without matching
support chains.  This is the guilty line:

@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@
 TintColor=199,151,185
 TintValue=0
 TrustedApplets=clockapplet,ksystemtrayapplet,krunapplet,quicklauncher,kminipagerapplet,ktaskbarapplet,kmixapplet
-UnhideLocation=0                     <-- good
+UnhideLocation=4                     <-- bad
 UntrustedApplets=
 UntrustedExtensions=
 UseBackgroundTheme=false


Expected behaviour:

The good line causes kicker to work perfectly.  It jumps up and down as
the mouse hovers over it or leaves it. Kicker is at the bottom edge of
my screen (configured to centre, bottom). Kicker is otherwise
configured to respond immediately, without delay, and to do no
animation, at max speed.

However, the good line corrresponds to a greyed out

   hiding -> Raise when the pointer touches the screen's ...

section in the graphical configuration utility. That may be "kompmgr".

I note that there is no help information corresponding to that option.
It suggests that it has been added recently and is not yet working
perfectly.




Aberrant behaviour:

The  bad line corresponds to 

   hiding -> Raise when the pointer touches the screen's  -> BOTTOM EDGE

in the graphical configuration utility. It causes kicker to stay up
after a mouseover. Kicker does not go down. Waving the mouse over and off
it, particularly near the right bottom corner, multiple times .. 20 or
30 times, eventually causes it to disappear. Just waiting does nothing,
as far as my patience can tell.

I have kicker configured to hide itself IMMEDIATELY, and to do so with
NO ANIMATON, and speed FAST (as possible).




That should enable you to find the problem. You may have my full
kickerrc (attached), but I believe you can reproduce the fault from the
report above.

> go, and is usually cured by a shutdown and restart of one thing or
> other.  If it were me talking - and I am, hey!  - I would say that it's
> a mild nonconformity in a config file causing the problem.  Probably fixed
> by letting either the file or the utility make a fresh start. Could
> even be some old shared library hanging around in memory.

I would appreciate it if you would move this issue on to the
appropriate people who will deal with it.


Towards a better debian.

Peter

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