Debian Bug report logs - #498648
live-package should use apt-cacher if available

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Package: live-helper; Maintainer for live-helper is Debian Live Project <>;

Reported by: "Tony Godshall" <>

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:36:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Found in version live-helper/1.0~a46-2

Done: Daniel Baumann <>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: "Tony Godshall" <>
To: "Debian Bug Tracking System" <>
Subject: live-package should use apt-cacher if available
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:35:15 -0700
Package: live-helper
Version: 1.0~a46-2
Severity: wishlist

Wishlist: lh_config --mirror-* and --*proxy options be
defaulted to use the URLs in /etc/apt/sources.list and
--cache-* options be disabled if /etc/apt/sources
indicates that a local apt-cacher host is configured.

This can be identified by the presence of lines matching

  deb http://[^/]*:3142/.* /etc/apt/sources.list


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From: Daniel Baumann <>
To:, "Tony Godshall" <>
Subject: Re: live-package should use apt-cacher if available
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:52:45 +0200

first of all, thank you for submitting a bug against live-helper. note
that, although I'm closing this bug (reasons below), you should not take
this as an offence or be discouraged from opening other bug reports
against live packages. We don't have problems with bug reports, and we
appreciate them, so that we can fix them and make the packages better.

second, completely unrelated to your bug report: you're indicating that
you're using a pretty old version of live-helper. you should really,
really, really upgrade to the one in testing. it contains important fixes.

now to the bugreport: apt-proxy, apt-cacher, you name it.. all these
pseudo proxies are a big problem when building live systems as they are
too buggy. They are a constant source of errors caused by not matching
release files, corrupted signatures etc., all of them are fatal errors
where live-helper stopps.

That is why we strongly recommend people to setup a real/full local
mirror (by using debmirror or rsync). If one really needs to use a
proxy, then squid. but really none of those broken .deb caching things.

That is also why we will never default to use any of those tools, as it
would be more harmful than helpful. This is also the reason why i'm
closing this bug.

we do have documented our dislike and our recommendation about these
tools in the live-manual, and we do request any bug report to be
verified and confirmed first with a normal network mirror (either full
local mirror, or an official debian mirror in the internet).

having that said.. if you insist on keeping this bug open, feel free to
reopen it. in this case, i will tagg it wontfix and it will rott forever
in the bts (sorry for my direct words, again, no offence intended).

I hope you're not dissapointed to use live-helper and report further
bugs. We're open to any suggestion, except this one.


Address:        Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist

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