Debian Bug report logs - #497823
longstanding DFSG violations in linux-2.6 package

Package: ftp.debian.org; Maintainer for ftp.debian.org is Debian FTP Master <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>;

Reported by: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>

Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:48:02 UTC

Severity: serious

Done: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian FTP Master <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>:
Bug#497823; Package ftp.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #3 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: longstanding DFSG violations in linux-2.6 package
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:42:50 +0200
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Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: serious

Dear FTP team,

I'm hereby requesting intervention to solve the longstanding problem of the
linux-2.6 package containing DFSG violations in a number of places.

As you know, the nature of the violations is the inclussion of firmware
binary blobs without corresponding source code.

I have recently approached the linux-2.6 maintainer team.  On one hand, I
inspected part of the code and found a number of such violations [1].  On
the other, I contacted them to discuss the situation [2].  The general
response was of passive attitude in both cases, but this is not what
motivates my request.

Today, I received a reply on #493925.  The content is a bit vague, but it
sets the severity of that bug to 'wishlist', clearly indicating their
unwillingness to solve the problem.  The emails that follow state their
intent further in this direction.

Since I have lost all hope that friendly discussion with the Linux team can
resolve this problem, I'm bringing this matter to your attention.

Please note, that in case technical work is required in pruning the package,
I'm willing to collaborate upon your request (as I have offered the Linux
maintainers as well).

Thanks

[1] Filed as #493925, #494007, #494009, #494010, #494119, #494120, #494122
    and #494308.  My request for intervention only concerns #493925, but I
    include the full list so you may choose to act at your discretion.

[2] See http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/08/msg00112.html

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Message #6 received at 497823@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: 497823@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#497823: longstanding DFSG violations in linux-2.6 package
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:28:05 +0200
Hi,

I'm sending the information that I was asked on IRC (a report on when each of
the violations were first known in Debian).

There are two meta-bugs, #242866 and #383403, which grouped several violations,
and were closed by the maintainers a while ago, arguing that separate bugs for
each violation should be filed instead (see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=242866#308).

As for the bugs I filed, here are my findings:

Known since 9 Apr 2004 (due to #242866 meta-bug):

  #493925 (drivers/char/drm/mga_ucode.h)
  #494007 (drivers/char/drm/r128_cce.c)
  #494308 (drivers/net/e100.c)

  (Note: the first reply in #494308 further indicates the problem was known
  before I filed it)

Known since 16 Aug 2006 (due to #383403 meta-bug):

  #494010 (drivers/char/dsp56k.c)

Do not appear to be known before my reports:

  #494009 (drivers/char/drm/radeon_microcode.h)
  #494119 (drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/af9005-script.h)
  #494120 (drivers/media/dvb/frontends/tda10021.c)
  #494122 (drivers/media/dvb/frontends/tda8083.c)

-- 
Robert Millan

  The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."




Reply sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
You have taken responsibility. (Mon, 04 May 2009 15:33:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Mon, 04 May 2009 15:33:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 497823-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: 497823-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: longstanding DFSG violations in linux-2.6 package
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:31:46 +0200
closing this useless dup report.
this is better solved together with upstream,
instead of making so much tiresome noise.

as the reporter was already told
it is better to file individual bug reports on concrete issues,
we are taking care of those.

considerable good effort was already done for Lenny and afterwards
we continue to progress in the hope that no new gr will emerge.

kind regards

-- 
maks






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