Debian Bug report logs - #494921
RFP: ttf-jgaramond -- Garamond-like font

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Juhapekka Tolvanen <juhtolv@iki.fi>

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:09:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Juhapekka Tolvanen <juhtolv@iki.fi>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RFP: ttf-jgaramond -- Garamond-like font
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:08:02 +0300
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name    : ttf-jgaramond
  Upstream Author : Jan Thor <jan@janthor.de>
* URL             : http://www.janthor.com/jGaramond/
* License         : ?
  Description     : Garamond-like font


See more information at homepage and Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garamond

I really don't know, what is the license. In this page it in section
"Notable Free-as-in-Beer Fonts":

http://www.geocities.com/hartke01/


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Bug#494921; Package wnpp. (Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:21:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Luca Bruno <lucab@debian.org>
To: 494921@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RFP: ttf-jgaramond -- Garamond-like font
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:18:03 +0100
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> I really don't know, what is the license. In this page it in section
> "Notable Free-as-in-Beer Fonts":

The actual zip-file is lacking any license, so I'd assume this is
really not a free font.

Anyway the author seems to have dismissed it, so at this point he could
probably release it under a free license...

Cheers, Luca

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Bug#494921; Package wnpp. (Sat, 27 Dec 2008 10:12:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #15 received at 494921@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Luca Bruno <lucab@debian.org>
To: 494921@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Fw: Re: jGaramond font license
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:06:36 +0100
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Upstream told me that he won't release it under a free license.
I'm thus considering this font non-free and non-distributable.
Below his response...

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:01:58 +0100
From: Jan Thor <jan AT janthor.de>
To: Luca Bruno <lucab AT debian.org>
Subject: Re: jGaramond font license

Luca Bruno schrieb:
>
> Hi, 
> A debian user has just requested the inclusion of your jGaramond font
> in the distribution. While I've read that you're deprecating and no
> more supporting them, it could be still useful to have a free/libre
> Garamond typeface floating around.
>
> I'm thus suggesting you to liberate your work for the community,
> releasing it under a free license as this is already being done for a
> lot general interesting font.
>
> I'd encourage you to adopt a generally used license, such as the Open
> Font License (OFL): http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
> If you're still in doubt, there is a concise FAQ for it:
> http://scripts.sil.org/OFL-FAQ_web

Hello Luca,

I regret, but I can't do that.

Yours, Jan

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Bug#494921; Package wnpp. (Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:30:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #20 received at 494921@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Paulo Silva" <nitrofurano@gmail.com>
To: "Luca Bruno" <lucab@debian.org>, 494921@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#494921: Fw: Re: jGaramond font license
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:29:06 +0000
Maybe replacing Garamond with Gentium would be the best choice, while
there is not free alternate more close to Garamond

Anyway, Claude Garamond died at year 1561
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garamond), i can't doubt a free typeface
based on his original drawings (if and when found) can be cc-nc-sa
since they are public domain from a long time, even knowing Adobe,
Agfa, ITC, etc., has distribution licences of their Garamond digital
typefaces.

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On 12/27/08, Luca Bruno <lucab@debian.org> wrote:
> Upstream told me that he won't release it under a free license.
> I'm thus considering this font non-free and non-distributable.
> Below his response...
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:01:58 +0100
> From: Jan Thor <jan AT janthor.de>
> To: Luca Bruno <lucab AT debian.org>
> Subject: Re: jGaramond font license
>
> Luca Bruno schrieb:
>>
>> Hi,
>> A debian user has just requested the inclusion of your jGaramond font
>> in the distribution. While I've read that you're deprecating and no
>> more supporting them, it could be still useful to have a free/libre
>> Garamond typeface floating around.
>>
>> I'm thus suggesting you to liberate your work for the community,
>> releasing it under a free license as this is already being done for a
>> lot general interesting font.
>>
>> I'd encourage you to adopt a generally used license, such as the Open
>> Font License (OFL): http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
>> If you're still in doubt, there is a concise FAQ for it:
>> http://scripts.sil.org/OFL-FAQ_web
>
> Hello Luca,
>
> I regret, but I can't do that.
>
> Yours, Jan
>
>




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Bug#494921; Package wnpp. (Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:57:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to "Paulo Silva" <nitrofurano@gmail.com>:
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Message #25 received at 494921@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Paulo Silva" <nitrofurano@gmail.com>
To: "Luca Bruno" <lucab@debian.org>, 494921@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#494921: Fw: Re: jGaramond font license
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:55:26 +0000
an interesting webpage article about Garamond -
http://barneycarroll.com/garamond.htm - which one is the more 'open'?
Since there are lots of Garamond variations, would be there a place
for an Open-Garamond? =)

On 12/27/08, Paulo Silva <nitrofurano@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe replacing Garamond with Gentium would be the best choice, while
> there is not free alternate more close to Garamond
>
> Anyway, Claude Garamond died at year 1561
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garamond), i can't doubt a free typeface
> based on his original drawings (if and when found) can be cc-nc-sa
> since they are public domain from a long time, even knowing Adobe,
> Agfa, ITC, etc., has distribution licences of their Garamond digital
> typefaces.
>
> -----------------------------
>
>
>
> On 12/27/08, Luca Bruno <lucab@debian.org> wrote:
>> Upstream told me that he won't release it under a free license.
>> I'm thus considering this font non-free and non-distributable.
>> Below his response...
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:01:58 +0100
>> From: Jan Thor <jan AT janthor.de>
>> To: Luca Bruno <lucab AT debian.org>
>> Subject: Re: jGaramond font license
>>
>> Luca Bruno schrieb:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> A debian user has just requested the inclusion of your jGaramond font
>>> in the distribution. While I've read that you're deprecating and no
>>> more supporting them, it could be still useful to have a free/libre
>>> Garamond typeface floating around.
>>>
>>> I'm thus suggesting you to liberate your work for the community,
>>> releasing it under a free license as this is already being done for a
>>> lot general interesting font.
>>>
>>> I'd encourage you to adopt a generally used license, such as the Open
>>> Font License (OFL): http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
>>> If you're still in doubt, there is a concise FAQ for it:
>>> http://scripts.sil.org/OFL-FAQ_web
>>
>> Hello Luca,
>>
>> I regret, but I can't do that.
>>
>> Yours, Jan
>>
>>
>




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