Debian Bug report logs - #488434
Unable to use manually entered mirror while installing on a Thecus N2100

Package: installation-reports; Maintainer for installation-reports is Debian Install Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:21:27 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>

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From: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:19:29 +0100
Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal

-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: network
Image version: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/ -- June 28 2008
Date: June 28, 2008

Machine: Thecus N2100
Partitions:

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000c6e0b

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1         973     7815591   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda2             974        1216     1951897+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda3            1217       19457   146520832+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
allegri:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0006c723

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1               1         973     7815591   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb2             974        1216     1951897+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb3            1217       19457   146520832+  fd  Linux raid autodetect

allegri:~# df -Tl
Filesystem    Type   1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0      ext3     7692776    636852   6665152   9% /
tmpfs        tmpfs      258508         0    258508   0% /lib/init/rw
udev         tmpfs       10240        76     10164   1% /dev
tmpfs        tmpfs      258508         0    258508   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md2      ext3   144221560    192132 136703392   1% /srv

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [O]
Detect network card:    [O]
Configure network:      [O]
Detect CD:              [ ]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:    [E]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:    [O]
Install tasks:          [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Overall install:        [O]

Comments/Problems:
  One small issue. The installation is preseeded from the old environment on
  flash, that is the configuration in the config partition of the original
  thecus firmware. This makes sense for the initial install, but less so when
  doing a reinstallation.  In this case the old firmware was installed with a
  static ip, which didn't make any sense at all in the network i was installing
  in.

  The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even select a
  country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the newt frontend
  immediately returned backup instead of actually showing the UI bits. The
  relevant debconf debugging output is:

  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
  Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup

  Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish the
  installation just fine.

  Sjoerd




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From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>, 488434@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:33:34 +0200
* Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> One small issue. The installation is preseeded from the old
> environment on flash, that is the configuration in the config
> partition of the original thecus firmware. This makes sense for the
> initial install, but less so when doing a reinstallation.  In this
> case the old firmware was installed with a static ip, which didn't
> make any sense at all in the network i was installing in.

I'm not sure what to do about this, though.  While the current rules
may not work for everything, at least they are pretty simple to
understand (i.e. the configuration is read from flash).  I guess I
could try to take the configuration from disk if there's one, but I'm
a bit worried that this would just confuse users (will it take the
config from disk? from flash?)

I don't think people re-install often enough to put much time into
supporting this scenario better.  People should simply flash the
original Thecus firmware (as documented) and then, from there, flash
Debian again.

However, I'd be interested to hear your comments.  Maybe you have some
good ideas how the situation could be handled.

>   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even select a
>   country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the newt frontend
>   immediately returned backup instead of actually showing the UI bits. The
>   relevant debconf debugging output is:

I don't know anything about the debconf frontends, so someone else
will have to comment.

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




Changed Bug title to `Unable to use manually entered mirror while installing on a Thecus N2100' from `installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100'. Request was from Jérémy Bobbio <lunar@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:14 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>, 488434@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:31:29 +0300
* Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> [2008-06-30 09:33]:
> * Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> > One small issue. The installation is preseeded from the old
> > environment on flash, that is the configuration in the config
> > partition of the original thecus firmware. This makes sense for the
> > initial install, but less so when doing a reinstallation.  In this
> > case the old firmware was installed with a static ip, which didn't
> > make any sense at all in the network i was installing in.
> 
> I'm not sure what to do about this, though.  While the current rules
> may not work for everything, at least they are pretty simple to
> understand (i.e. the configuration is read from flash).  I guess I
> could try to take the configuration from disk if there's one, but I'm
> a bit worried that this would just confuse users (will it take the
> config from disk? from flash?)
> 
> I don't think people re-install often enough to put much time into
> supporting this scenario better.  People should simply flash the
> original Thecus firmware (as documented) and then, from there, flash
> Debian again.
> 
> However, I'd be interested to hear your comments.  Maybe you have some
> good ideas how the situation could be handled.

Sjoerd, do you have any comments?  I don't see how this could be
handled in a better way and I don't think many users will run into
this problem, so I don't intend to do anything about it... however,
maybe you have a good idea I couldn't think of.
-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




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From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>, 488434@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:30:32 +0300
* Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
>   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even select a
>   country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the newt frontend
>   immediately returned backup instead of actually showing the UI bits. The
>   relevant debconf debugging output is:
> 
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
>   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup
> 
>   Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish the
>   installation just fine.

Frans, Jeremy, Colin, etc: can one of you comment on this?
-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




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From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
To: 488434@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:45:20 +0200
On Saturday 13 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> >   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even
> > select a country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the
> > newt frontend immediately returned backup instead of actually showing
> > the UI bits. The relevant debconf debugging output is:
> >
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
> >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup
> >
> >   Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish
> > the installation just fine.
>
> Frans, Jeremy, Colin, etc: can one of you comment on this?

Sjoerd, can you please try again with a current daily image?
There have been some changes and we've not have any other reports of 
mirror selection failures, so it seems most likely that you hit a bad 
daily image.

If it still fails then please send the full syslog with debconf debugging 
enabled (gzipped!).

Cheers,
FJP




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Message #32 received at 488434@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: 488434@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:42:25 +0100
Sjoerd, we're still waiting for your input on this. (see below)


* Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> [2008-09-16 19:45]:
> On Saturday 13 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > * Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> > >   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even
> > > select a country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the
> > > newt frontend immediately returned backup instead of actually showing
> > > the UI bits. The relevant debconf debugging output is:
> > >
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
> > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup
> > >
> > >   Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish
> > > the installation just fine.
> >
> > Frans, Jeremy, Colin, etc: can one of you comment on this?
> 
> Sjoerd, can you please try again with a current daily image?
> There have been some changes and we've not have any other reports of 
> mirror selection failures, so it seems most likely that you hit a bad 
> daily image.
> 
> If it still fails then please send the full syslog with debconf debugging 
> enabled (gzipped!).
> 
> Cheers,
> FJP
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




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From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: 488434@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:29:34 +0100
Sjoerd, do you have any more input on this bug report?  If not, I
suggest we close it as unreproducable.

* Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> [2008-10-29 07:42]:
> Sjoerd, we're still waiting for your input on this. (see below)
> 
> 
> * Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> [2008-09-16 19:45]:
> > On Saturday 13 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > * Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> > > >   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even
> > > > select a country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the
> > > > newt frontend immediately returned backup instead of actually showing
> > > > the UI bits. The relevant debconf debugging output is:
> > > >
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
> > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup
> > > >
> > > >   Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish
> > > > the installation just fine.
> > >
> > > Frans, Jeremy, Colin, etc: can one of you comment on this?
> > 
> > Sjoerd, can you please try again with a current daily image?
> > There have been some changes and we've not have any other reports of 
> > mirror selection failures, so it seems most likely that you hit a bad 
> > daily image.
> > 
> > If it still fails then please send the full syslog with debconf debugging 
> > enabled (gzipped!).
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > FJP
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Martin Michlmayr
> http://www.cyrius.com/
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




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From: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@luon.net>
To: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
Cc: 488434@bugs.debian.org, Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:40:09 +0000
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 01:29:34PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Sjoerd, do you have any more input on this bug report?  If not, I
> suggest we close it as unreproducable.

Unfortunately no, i don't have a free N2100 to try and reproduce this.
It might very well be fixed by now, so i agree that the best thing is probably
to close it as unreproducable

> 
> * Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> [2008-10-29 07:42]:
> > Sjoerd, we're still waiting for your input on this. (see below)
> > 
> > 
> > * Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl> [2008-09-16 19:45]:
> > > On Saturday 13 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > > * Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@debian.org> [2008-06-28 22:19]:
> > > > >   The big issue was that i couldn't configure a custom mirror or even
> > > > > select a country mirror. After some debugging it turned out that the
> > > > > newt frontend immediately returned backup instead of actually showing
> > > > > the UI bits. The relevant debconf debugging output is:
> > > > >
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GET mirror/country
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 manual
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/hostname
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> INPUT critical mirror/http/directory
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 0 question will be asked
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: --> GO
> > > > >   Jun 28 16:38:30 debconf: <-- 30 backup
> > > > >
> > > > >   Using the text frontend instead of the newt frontend let me finish
> > > > > the installation just fine.
> > > >
> > > > Frans, Jeremy, Colin, etc: can one of you comment on this?
> > > 
> > > Sjoerd, can you please try again with a current daily image?
> > > There have been some changes and we've not have any other reports of 
> > > mirror selection failures, so it seems most likely that you hit a bad 
> > > daily image.
> > > 
> > > If it still fails then please send the full syslog with debconf debugging 
> > > enabled (gzipped!).
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > FJP
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Martin Michlmayr
> > http://www.cyrius.com/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Martin Michlmayr
> http://www.cyrius.com/

-- 
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Message #47 received at 488434-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>
To: Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@luon.net>
Cc: 488434-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#488434: installation-reports: somewhat problematic install on Thecus N2100
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:48:07 +0100
* Sjoerd Simons <sjoerd@luon.net> [2009-02-25 12:40]:
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 01:29:34PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > Sjoerd, do you have any more input on this bug report?  If not, I
> > suggest we close it as unreproducable.
> 
> Unfortunately no, i don't have a free N2100 to try and reproduce this.
> It might very well be fixed by now, so i agree that the best thing is probably
> to close it as unreproducable

Ok.
-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/




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