Debian Bug report logs - #477972
ITP: hamster-applet -- Time tracking applet for GNOME

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: ITP: hamster-applet -- Time tracking applet for GNOME

Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:00:28 +0100

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

* Package name    : hamster-applet
  Version         : 0.2
  Upstream Author : Toms Baugis <toms.baugis@gmail.com>
* URL             : http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/
* License         : GPLv3 or later
  Programming Lang: Python, C
  Description     : Time tracking applet for GNOME

Project Hamster helps you to keep track of how much time you spend on various
activities during the day.  Whenever you move from one task to another, you
change your current activity in the GNOME applet.

It can present graphical statistics of how long you have spent on each task,
and may be useful for project management or keeping employee timesheets.

Message #8 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

To: 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0300

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Hi,

Are there any news on this?

The tool looks really nice.

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Message #13 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:19:17 -0300

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:18 +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> Are there any news on this?
> 
> The tool looks really nice.

It's on my todo list for DebCamp, honest. :)

-- 
Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #16 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

To: 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:09:25 +0300

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-=| Tim Retout, Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:19:17AM -0300 |=-
> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:18 +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > Are there any news on this?
> > 
> > The tool looks really nice.
> 
> It's on my todo list for DebCamp, honest. :)

This is, great!

If you need testers, feel free to ping me on #debconf or 
#debian-devel.

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Message #21 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:45:43 -0300

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 18:09 +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> -=| Tim Retout, Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 11:19:17AM -0300 |=-
> > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:18 +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > > Are there any news on this?
> > > 
> > > The tool looks really nice.
> > 
> > It's on my todo list for DebCamp, honest. :)

While writing debian/copyright, I discovered hamster/idle.c appears to
be GPLv2 only (when the rest of hamster-applet is GPLv3+). Forwarded to:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547117

I could perhaps port it to python-xlib... the debian/copyright file says
GPLv2 only, but it's wrong (filed as #494495). I'm not having a good
day. :(

The other option is the g-p-m dbus API, but I seem to recall that it
doesn't /quite/ have what hamster-applet needs. Or idle tracking could
be dropped altogether.

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Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #24 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dam@modsoftsys.com>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Cc: 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:39:49 +0300

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-=| Tim Retout, Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 08:45:43PM -0300 |=-
> While writing debian/copyright, I discovered hamster/idle.c appears 
> to
> be GPLv2 only (when the rest of hamster-applet is GPLv3+). Forwarded to:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547117

Nasty :|

> I could perhaps port it to python-xlib... the debian/copyright file 
> says GPLv2 only, but it's wrong (filed as #494495).

Hmm. GPL-2 for packaging is ok if upstream code is GPL-2+. Muddy 
waters, though, as it is questionable whether you "use" python-xlib's 
packaging in hamster-applet, respectively if their packaging license 
conflicts with hamster' GPL-3+. I would say it doesn't. After all, 
hamster's packaging is not based on python-xlib's.

> The other option is the g-p-m dbus API, but I seem to recall that it
> doesn't /quite/ have what hamster-applet needs. Or idle tracking could
> be dropped altogether.

That would be unfortunate as it is an useful feature. Let's hope that 
upstream solves it. It may be worth mentioning in the bugzilla#547117 
the python-xlib alternative.

Thank you for your work so far!

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Message #29 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:14:07 +0300

On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 08:45:43PM -0300, Tim Retout wrote:
> While writing debian/copyright, I discovered hamster/idle.c appears to
> be GPLv2 only (when the rest of hamster-applet is GPLv3+).

This was fixed in Gajim's repository (from where the file is borrowed)
so you may just ask your upstream to sync it from there.

I guess you know very well, but for others watching this bug or reading
debian.devel.wnpp -- hamster-applet has been accepted as official module
in GNOME and will be part of 2.24.

Message #34 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22:20 -0300

On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:14 +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> This was fixed in Gajim's repository (from where the file is borrowed)
> so you may just ask your upstream to sync it from there.

The gajim ticket is at: http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/4187
Gajim changed the file to GPLv3 *only*, so hamster-applet upstream has
moved to use the g-p-m (or gnome-screensaver?) dbus api.

The hamster-applet 2.23.90 tarball is due on August 18th, but I'll
probably package an SVN snapshot before then.

-- 
Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #39 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Cc: 477972@bugs.debian.org, Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:55:11 +0300

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 07:22:20PM -0300, Tim Retout wrote:
> Gajim changed the file to GPLv3 *only*, 

Well, this is apparently another mistake, I'll notify them about it.  I
tend to read diffs quickly (just because there are megabytes of them!)
so I really missed this important distinction.

Nevertheless, it is not a stopper for this ITP (assuming upstream
includes idle.c at the end); it will be a potential problem when the
current GNU licenses will be upgraded.

> so hamster-applet upstream has moved to use the g-p-m (or 
> gnome-screensaver?) dbus api.

Because of this (almost obvious and easily fixable error)?  By reading
the GNOME Bugzilla bug my impression is that your (hamster) upstream
just chose a more suitable API -- being a GNOME applet, portability
within environments doesn't matter much.

There seems to be another bug to make hamster-applet Python-only (I just
saw the title; don't know details/rationale), so upstream's decision
might be based on the overall evaluation of the reported bugs and/or
some unwritten (or "unspoken", as they say) design goals.  Anyway, I'm
just speculating.

I'll pester the Gajim folks anyway.

Message #44 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:05:14 -0300

On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 01:55 +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 07:22:20PM -0300, Tim Retout wrote:
> > Gajim changed the file to GPLv3 *only*, 
> 
> Well, this is apparently another mistake, I'll notify them about it.

No, please read the gajim ticket first. :)

-- 
Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #49 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Cc: 477972@bugs.debian.org, Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: ITP: hamster-applet

Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:24:56 +0300

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 08:05:14PM -0300, Tim Retout wrote:
> > > Gajim changed the file to GPLv3 *only*, 
> > 
> > Well, this is apparently another mistake, I'll notify them about it.
> 
> No, please read the gajim ticket first. :)

I read all Gajim tickets in real time, because I'm subscribed to the
appropriate list.  I'm aware of this issue very well, including the
developer in question.  The problem is that they can't release 0.12 as
"GPLv3 or later" while having this developer disagree with the
relicensing, and having idle.c under GPLv3 only.

Anyway, perhaps your hamster guys did the right thing; and just to clear
any eventual cloud gathering -- I was merely clarifying as someone who
follows the Gajim project since the early days.   It is entirely up to
you to decide what to do with hamster-applet, and I don't want to
interfere at all.

Good luck, and especially in maintaining GNU enscript :-}

Message #54 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Stigge <martin@stigge.org>

To: 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Status of ITP?

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:10:40 +0200

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Hi,

what's the status of the packaging efforts? I saw that upstream
maintains a debian/ in the svn repository. Looks like it's directed at
Ubuntu, but maybe forces should be joined..

Regards,
Martin

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Message #59 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Martin Stigge <martin@stigge.org>, 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: Status of ITP?

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:28:54 +0100

On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 20:10 +0200, Martin Stigge wrote:
> what's the status of the packaging efforts? I saw that upstream
> maintains a debian/ in the svn repository. Looks like it's directed at
> Ubuntu, but maybe forces should be joined..

Nearly done - I have worked on actually fixing the build today, and just
need to combine it with the copyright work this evening. I promise to
have it in NEW really soon now.

The problem with the upstream debian directory is that I don't like
their packaging. I suck. Sorry. :)

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Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #62 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>, 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: Status of ITP?

Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:27:25 +0300

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-=| Tim Retout, Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 05:28:54PM +0100 |=-
> On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 20:10 +0200, Martin Stigge wrote:
> > what's the status of the packaging efforts? I saw that upstream
> > maintains a debian/ in the svn repository. Looks like it's directed at
> > Ubuntu, but maybe forces should be joined..
> 
> Nearly done - I have worked on actually fixing the build today, and just
> need to combine it with the copyright work this evening. I promise to
> have it in NEW really soon now.

Is the source package available somewhere? I find myself depending on 
that Hamster so I am willing to help.

> The problem with the upstream debian directory is that I don't like
> their packaging. I suck. Sorry. :)

There is always the option to just drop their debian/ and create it 
anew :)

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Message #67 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

Cc: 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: hamster-applet packaging

Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:24:40 +0000

Hi Damyan,

I have put the hamster-applet packaging that I have so far in
collab-maint:

http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/hamster-applet.git

It builds in pbuilder, but there are a lot of dpkg-shlibdeps warnings
about symbols not being found and so on. I'd very much welcome you
looking at it - feel free to commit there.

Once this is uploaded, perhaps I will run out of excuses for my time
management being so poor. ;)

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Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #70 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>, 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: hamster-applet packaging

Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:34:03 +0200

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-=| Tim Retout, Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 11:24:40PM +0000 |=-
> I have put the hamster-applet packaging that I have so far in
> collab-maint:
> 
> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/hamster-applet.git

Great!

> It builds in pbuilder, but there are a lot of dpkg-shlibdeps 
> warnings about symbols not being found and so on. I'd very much 
> welcome you looking at it - feel free to commit there.

I think these are harmless. The missing symbols are from Python, which 
is already loaded when the hamster binary runs.

There are a couple of unneeded dependencies, though, that may be worth 
elliminating. I'll take a look later, after trying to address the 
grave problem at hand:

Which is, hamster-applet crashes on loading. This pretty much seemed 
like gnome#558912[1]

    [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558912

But the patch there does not help.

Running the applet with LANG=C works around the problem. Hmm. It seems 
the bug is encoding-related. When I add an additional patch to make 
the sqlite connection use the 'str' text_factory, everything works as 
expected. I reported the problem as gnome#559061[2]

    http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559061

I propose that the one-line patch[3] is added to the Debian package. 
Is it OK with you if I use quilt for this?

    [3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=121849


Thanks to your work on hamster!

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Message #75 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Damyan Ivanov <dmn@debian.org>, 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: hamster-applet packaging

Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:41:40 +0000

On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:34 +0200, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> I propose that the one-line patch[3] is added to the Debian package. 
> Is it OK with you if I use quilt for this?
> 
>     [3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=121849

quilt would be awesome, thank you.

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Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #78 received at 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Damyan Ivanov <dam@modsoftsys.com>

To: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Cc: 477972-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972: hamster-applet packaging

Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:21:54 +0200

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-=| Tim Retout, Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 08:41:40AM +0000 |=-
> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:34 +0200, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > I propose that the one-line patch[3] is added to the Debian package. 
> > Is it OK with you if I use quilt for this?
> > 
> >     [3] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=121849
> 
> quilt would be awesome, thank you.

Patches pushed (control/rules now include quilt).

Upstream seems[4] to prefer another approach, however:

  This is just wrong. Hamster should use Unicode objects instead.

    [4] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559061#c2

I am a complete python newbie so I feel a bit uncomfortable attempting 
such a patch.


WRT library dependencies, I am not so sure anymore. At least 
XUngrabKey is not a python-provided one :)

I'll dig some further. Not a show-stopper, I think as the applet seems 
to run fine.

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Message #83 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com>

To: 477972@bugs.debian.org

Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:32:57 +0000

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Hey Tim. I've mailed you a couple of months ago about hamster-applet
when it entered Ubuntu Intrepid.

Hamster-applet is also on
http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gnome/desktop/hamster-applet/debian/
and it's more complete and ready to go into experimental.

Mind if the pkg-gnome upload my version and we work together
hamster-applet on pkg-gnome?

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Message #88 received at 477972@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

To: Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com>, 477972@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#477972:

Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:30:56 +0000

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 00:32 +0000, Pedro Fragoso wrote:
> Hey Tim. I've mailed you a couple of months ago about hamster-applet
> when it entered Ubuntu Intrepid.
> 
> Hamster-applet is also on
> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-gnome/desktop/hamster-applet/debian/
> and it's more complete and ready to go into experimental.
> 
> Mind if the pkg-gnome upload my version and we work together
> hamster-applet on pkg-gnome?

I think that's a good idea. I've been unexpectedly short of time lately,
sorry.  :/

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Tim Retout <tim@retout.co.uk>

Message #95 received at 477972-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com>

To: 477972-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#477972: fixed in hamster-applet 2.24.2-1

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:55:03 +0000

Source: hamster-applet
Source-Version: 2.24.2-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
hamster-applet, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

hamster-applet_2.24.2-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/h/hamster-applet/hamster-applet_2.24.2-1.diff.gz
hamster-applet_2.24.2-1.dsc
  to pool/main/h/hamster-applet/hamster-applet_2.24.2-1.dsc
hamster-applet_2.24.2-1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/h/hamster-applet/hamster-applet_2.24.2-1_i386.deb
hamster-applet_2.24.2.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/h/hamster-applet/hamster-applet_2.24.2.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 477972@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com> (supplier of updated hamster-applet package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:47:03 +0000
Source: hamster-applet
Binary: hamster-applet
Architecture: source i386
Version: 2.24.2-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com>
Changed-By: Pedro Fragoso <ember@ubuntu.com>
Description: 
 hamster-applet - time tracking applet for GNOME
Closes: 477972
Changes: 
 hamster-applet (2.24.2-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   [ Emilio Pozuelo Monfort ]
   * New upstream release.
   * Adapt the package to pkg-gnome.
   * Require Python >= 2.5 for the sqlite bindings.
 .
   [ Pedro Fragoso ]
   * Initial upload to Debian (Closes: #477972)
     - Thanks Tim Retout for the initial ITP and permission
 .
   [ Loic Minier ]
   * Cleanup whitespaces.
   * Use /experimental instead of /unstable in Vcs-* fields.
   * Drop libxss-dev build-dep.
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