Debian Bug report logs - #467399
compiz fails to take control of windows

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jerry Quinn <jlquinn@optonline.net>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: compiz fails to take control of windows

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:36:15 -0500

Package: compiz
Version: 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1
Severity: normal


I'm trying compiz for the first time.  When I start it up, all the window
borders disappear.  No sign of compiz taking control appears.  Also, I cannot
see what I type in any terminal window.  It seems to respond to clicks to
bring other terminals to the front, but I can't see it respond in any other
way.

Fortunately, I can revert to metacity.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages compiz depends on:
ii  compiz-core 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1 OpenGL window and compositing mana
ii  compiz-gnom 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1 OpenGL window and compositing mana
ii  compiz-gtk  0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1 OpenGL window and compositing mana
ii  compiz-plug 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1 OpenGL window and compositing mana

compiz recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information

Message #10 received at 467399@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Jerry Quinn <jlquinn@optonline.net>, 467399@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#467399: compiz fails to take control of windows

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:52:31 +0100

Jerry Quinn wrote:
> Package: compiz
> Version: 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1
> Severity: normal
>
>
> I'm trying compiz for the first time.  When I start it up, all the window
> borders disappear.  No sign of compiz taking control appears.  Also, I cannot
> see what I type in any terminal window.  It seems to respond to clicks to
> bring other terminals to the front, but I can't see it respond in any other
> way.

Does http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/11253.html help?

Brice

Message #15 received at 467399@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jerry Quinn <jlquinn@optonline.net>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Cc: 467399@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#467399: compiz fails to take control of windows

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:16:52 -0500

Brice Goglin wrote:
> Jerry Quinn wrote:
>> Package: compiz
>> Version: 0.6.3~git20071222.061ff159-1
>> Severity: normal
>>
>>
>> I'm trying compiz for the first time.  When I start it up, all the window
>> borders disappear.  No sign of compiz taking control appears.  Also, I cannot
>> see what I type in any terminal window.  It seems to respond to clicks to
>> bring other terminals to the front, but I can't see it respond in any other
>> way.
> 
> Does http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/11253.html help?

Yes it did.  Cool.  OK, given that, I have two suggestions :-)

1) Turn on decoration and some other minimal window manager abilities by 
default.  I'd argue that the lack of decoration and basic window 
management out of the box is a bug

2) Add compizconfig-settings-manager as a suggests for compiz.  That 
will give newbies a slightly easier way of setting up the basics and 
playing with effects.


I noticed a few other problems, such as not honoring the 2x4 desktop I 
was using under metacity (it folded to a 1x4 desktop and threw all my 
windows into the first screen), and not honoring some of my metacity 
keybindings (perhaps a settings-migration tool would help?).

Thanks,
Jerry

Message #20 received at 467399-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Jerry Quinn <jlquinn@optonline.net>, 467399-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#467399: compiz fails to take control of windows

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:01:54 +0100

Jerry Quinn wrote:
> Yes it did.  Cool.

Ok, closing then thanks.

> 1) Turn on decoration and some other minimal window manager abilities
> by default.  I'd argue that the lack of decoration and basic window
> management out of the box is a bug

Agreed, we received tons of similar requests, I don't know what the
status of this is.

At some point, I thought your problem would only occur if you had run an
old compiz (say 0.2, which created a pretty small config without the
decoration plugin) and then upgraded to a recent one (which thus missed
the decoration plugin). Did you run a recent compiz first, or did you
ever run an old one?

> 2) Add compizconfig-settings-manager as a suggests for compiz.  That
> will give newbies a slightly easier way of setting up the basics and
> playing with effects.

I don't see anything bad about this. I passed the idea to our Compiz guy.

> I noticed a few other problems, such as not honoring the 2x4 desktop I
> was using under metacity (it folded to a 1x4 desktop and threw all my
> windows into the first screen)

Yeah we have some bug reports (#432802) about workspace switcher
"conflicts" between gnome and compiz. Not sure it's easy to fix...

> and not honoring some of my metacity keybindings (perhaps a
> settings-migration tool would help?).

We have a bug report about this too (#454922). If you want to write this
migration tool, feel free to send it :)

Brice

Message #21 received at 467399-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jerry Quinn <jlquinn@optonline.net>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Cc: 467399-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#467399: compiz fails to take control of windows

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:58:28 -0500

Brice Goglin wrote:
> Jerry Quinn wrote:
>> Yes it did.  Cool.
> 
> Ok, closing then thanks.
> 
>> 1) Turn on decoration and some other minimal window manager abilities
>> by default.  I'd argue that the lack of decoration and basic window
>> management out of the box is a bug
> 
> Agreed, we received tons of similar requests, I don't know what the
> status of this is.

So I don't need to open a debian bug for this, right?


> At some point, I thought your problem would only occur if you had run an
> old compiz (say 0.2, which created a pretty small config without the
> decoration plugin) and then upgraded to a recent one (which thus missed
> the decoration plugin). Did you run a recent compiz first, or did you
> ever run an old one?

No, 0.6.3 is the first version I've ever tried to run.


>> 2) Add compizconfig-settings-manager as a suggests for compiz.  That
>> will give newbies a slightly easier way of setting up the basics and
>> playing with effects.
> 
> I don't see anything bad about this. I passed the idea to our Compiz guy.

Cool, thanks.

Jerry

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