Debian Bug report logs - #458819
RFP: nettee -- a network "tee" program

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Joel Franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:33:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Joel Franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:28:30 -0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joel Franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>


* Package name    : nettee
  Version         : 0.1.8
  Upstream Author : David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>
* URL             : http://saf.bio.caltech.edu/nettee.html
* License         : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description     : a network "tee" program

It can typically transfer data between N nodes at (nearly) the full
bandwidth provided by the switch which connects them.  It is handy for
cloning nodes or moving large database files.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.23.11 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to pt_BR.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash




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From: Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>
To: Joel Franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>, 458819@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#458819: ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:33:10 -0600
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[Joel Franco]
>   Description     : a network "tee" program
> 
> It can typically transfer data between N nodes at (nearly) the full
> bandwidth provided by the switch which connects them.  It is handy for
> cloning nodes or moving large database files.

So would that make nettee a faster bittorrent?  Or is bittorrent, in
fact, a faster nettee?
-- 
Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/
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From: joel.franco@gmail.com
To: Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>
Cc: 458819@bugs.debian.org, David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>
Subject: Re: Bug#458819: ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 02:52:22 -0200
Hi Peter,

I had not much knownledge about the torrent protocol and then i have
read about it to compare to nettee.

Wikipedia: 

  - 'BitTorrent is a peer-to-peer file sharing (P2P) communications
    protocol'
  - 'downloads can take time to rise to full speed because it may take
    time for enough peer connections to be established, and it takes
    time for a node to receive sufficient data to become an effective
    uploader.'

At first, it appeared to be a good solution by the protocol design goals
but the defficiences for the clone needs (fixme):

  - It was designed to operate in WAN networks where there are high
    latencies and slow bandwith compared to the exactly oppose in the
    LANs. Nettee could make better here.
  - It appears that the initial times to get full download speed is not
    instantaneous (like in nettee) but dependent in a exchange messages
    that would be not necessary.
  - it's a lot complex protocol. Why not make a simple protocol (like in
    nettee)?


Nettee is:

  - simple
  - small
  - designed to lans
  - designed to generic proposities and not specific to any operation

A defficience could be the node dead in the chain, but there is
approaches implemented that contour this problems.

Have i convinced you that nettee is cool and that could be offered to
the debian users? And, could you be my sponsor? :)

Regards.

-- 
Joel Franco Guzmán

On Wed Jan 02 08 22:33, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> 
> [Joel Franco]
> >   Description     : a network "tee" program
> > 
> > It can typically transfer data between N nodes at (nearly) the full
> > bandwidth provided by the switch which connects them.  It is handy for
> > cloning nodes or moving large database files.
> 
> So would that make nettee a faster bittorrent?  Or is bittorrent, in
> fact, a faster nettee?
> -- 
> Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/






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From: Joel Franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Cc: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>, 458819@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Re: Bug#458819: ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 00:00:45 -0200
> Out of curiosity, besides being a bit easier to remember/type,
> and not requiring the user to choose a port,
> what benefits over combining normal tee and netcat does it have?
> 
> for example:
> 
>     On A:  nettee -in IMAGE -next B -v 31  #full logging
>     On B:  nettee -next C >/dev/hda
>     On C:  nettee -next D >/dev/hda
>     On D:  nettee -next E >/dev/hda
>     On E:  nettee -next F >/dev/hda
>     On F:  nettee         >/dev/hda
> 
> 
> AFAICT, that could be done more or less equivlently as
> On A: nc -q0 B 12345 <IMAGE
> On B: nc -l 12345 | tee >(nc -q0 C 12345) >/dev/hda
> On C: nc -l 12345 | tee >(nc -q0 D 12345) >/dev/hda
> On D: nc -l 12345 | tee >(nc -q0 E 12345) >/dev/hda
> On E: nc -l 12345 | tee >(nc -q0 F 12345) >/dev/hda
> On F: nc -l 12345 >/dev/hda
> 
> (Some stdout redirections to /dev/null could be added, so stdin on the reciving does not come out as stdout on the sending end.)

Hi Joe,

Good question.

IMHO, i think that the main benefits are:

- simplicity: like you already said, the simple command, without complex
  pipe setups like showed in your example comments. You have to agree
  with me that that netcat + tee pipe commands are not trivial. If I
  had known about that commands, i will not have searched for somenthing
  like nettee in Google.
- multiple target: you can specify multiple targets to send the stream
  and not only one. Use the -next hostlist1(,hostlist2(,hostlist3(...)))
  Ok.. ok.. you can make it with a complex pipe; i just can say that
  i will say again the previous argument.
- error check in the stream data: there is a check for transmission
  errors in the code. This is util when there are failed nodes.
- error handling while data is being transmited: there is a lot of
  options to the chain not die if there is a single node failure. In
  your pipe commands, if one node die, the full chain is lost.

In short, simplicity and error check.

If you liked, can you be my sponsor? :)

-- 
|
| Joel Franco Guzmán  .''`.
|  self-powered by   : :' :
|   Debian Linux     `. `' 
|                      `- 




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Message #25 received at 458819@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 458819@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: nettee: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:06:04 +0000
retitle 458819 RFP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
noowner 458819
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of nettee back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 18 months.

If you are still interested in adopting nettee, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 458819 ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program
 owner 458819 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITP for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
packaging that software. It is also a good idea to document your progress on
this ITP from time to time, by mailing <458819@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team




Changed Bug title to 'RFP: nettee -- a network "tee" program' from 'ITP: nettee -- a network "tee" program' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 24 May 2010 19:23:35 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by joel franco <joel.franco@gmail.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 24 May 2010 19:23:35 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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