Debian Bug report logs - #452412
please move fuse from /usr to /

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: fuse: install to / rather than /usr

Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:04:07 +0000

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Package: fuse
Version: 2.7.1-1
Severity: wishlist
User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
Usertags: origin-ubuntu hardy ubuntu-patch

We wanted to ship ntfs-3g by default in Ubuntu. In the process we
observed that one might have a separate /usr but still want to mount an
NTFS filesystem on boot. This is made a lot easier if FUSE is available
on the root filesystem.

The attached patch implements this, and deals with things like moving
any old statoverrides over; would you consider applying it? Note that it
assumes that the version in which it will be applied is 2.7.1-2, and
will need to be updated if that is not true.

This change was originally made by Phillip Lougher.

Thanks,

-- 
Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]

[fuse.rootfs.diff (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #10 received at 452412@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <gandalf@le-vert.net>

To: 452412@bugs.debian.org

Cc: cjwatson@ubuntu.com

Subject: #452412: fuse: install to / rather than /usr

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:14:35 +0100

Hi,

After some discussion with others debian developpers, I really do not 
see why you want to do that.
I'd suggest than ntfs volumes should be mounted after /usr. It should be 
always the case if you do not have a bad fstab.
Why not checking if the fstab is sane, rather than adding unecessary 
binaries into / ?

Regards, Adam.

Message #15 received at 452412@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>

To: Adam Cécile (Le_Vert) <gandalf@le-vert.net>

Cc: 452412@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: #452412: fuse: install to / rather than /usr

Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:24:59 +0000

On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:14:35PM +0100, "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" wrote:
> After some discussion with others debian developpers, I really do not 
> see why you want to do that.
> I'd suggest than ntfs volumes should be mounted after /usr. It should be 
> always the case if you do not have a bad fstab.

Frankly, it's a lot easier for everyone not to have to worry about the
ordering to that extent. Sure, the installer *could* arrange it. But
pretty much every other filesystem is mountable before /usr, so it
wouldn't remotely surprise me if somebody naïvely added an NTFS
filesystem in front of /usr. I much prefer a robust system to a system
that sacrifices robustness for 164KB of extra space in /; in my view
164KB is not worth the time people are likely to end up spending trying
to work out what broke.

I think it should be a general rule that tools needed to mount
filesystems should be in /. It makes debugging and system recovery a
whole lot easier.

I also think it's very likely that at some point somebody will want to
use a FUSE filesystem for /usr itself. FUSE is getting more and more
useful for all sorts of things. It belongs in / so that its usefulness
isn't artifically limited.

Thanks,

-- 
Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]

Message #20 received at 452412-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <gandalf@le-vert.net>

To: cjwatson@ubuntu.com

Cc: 452412-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: #452412: fuse: install to / rather than /usr

Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:58:19 +0100

Hello,

It has been discussed with others debian developpers and all agree it's 
useless for the debian project.
Moreover, ntfs-3g is now able to use its own libfuse, so you should 
rather check this instead of wanting fuse in /.

Best regards, Adam.

Message #25 received at 452412@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>

To: 452412@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#452412 closed by "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <gandalf@le-vert.net> (#452412: fuse: install to / rather than /usr)

Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:28:00 +0000

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:57:04PM +0000, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> From: "\"Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)\"" <gandalf@le-vert.net>
[...]
> It has been discussed with others debian developpers and all agree it's 
> useless for the debian project.

Thanks for your consideration. Since I disagree with your decision for
the reasons I outlined earlier (and, frankly, I'm disappointed that you
have not responded to them explicitly, but instead simply invoked
unnamed "other Debian developers"; with my Debian developer hat on I do
not agree), I think we will continue to apply this in Ubuntu.

> Moreover, ntfs-3g is now able to use its own libfuse, so you should 
> rather check this instead of wanting fuse in /.

This is a bad idea as you'll have to fix bugs twice, or, perhaps more
relevantly, any security updates to the common code will have to be
applied twice. I expect you'll hear from the security team sooner or
later about this, as they are generally unimpressed by this approach.

Does this mean that you would be willing to move ntfs-3g to /?

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@debian.org]

Message #38 received at 452412@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: 505691@bugs.debian.org, 452412@bugs.debian.org

Subject: fuse: moving to /, adding to initramfs

Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:45:30 +0200

tag 505691 - wontfix
tag 505691 pending
tag 452412 - wontfix
tag 452412 pending
thanks

will look into it in the next couple of days.

-- 
Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #49 received at 452412@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bruce Sass <bmsass@shaw.ca>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <452412@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: libfuse2: mount.ntfs fails when /usr is an NFS mount

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:59:57 -0600

Package: libfuse2
Version: 2.8.5-4
Followup-For: Bug #452412

Wed Jul 20 00:18:43 2011: Will now mount local filesystems:/sbin/mount.ntfs: error while loading shared libraries: l
ibfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Wed Jul 20 00:18:43 2011:  failed!
.
.
.
Wed Jul 20 00:20:52 2011: Waiting for /usr...done.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.39-2-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages libfuse2 depends on:
ii  libc6                         2.13-10    Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib

libfuse2 recommends no packages.

Versions of packages libfuse2 suggests:
ii  fuse                          2.8.5-4    Filesystem in Userspace

-- no debconf information

Message #58 received at 452412-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: 452412-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#452412: fixed in fuse 2.8.6-2

Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:32:55 +0000

Source: fuse
Source-Version: 2.8.6-2

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
fuse, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

fuse-dbg_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
  to main/f/fuse/fuse-dbg_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
fuse-udeb_2.8.6-2_i386.udeb
  to main/f/fuse/fuse-udeb_2.8.6-2_i386.udeb
fuse-utils_2.8.6-2_all.deb
  to main/f/fuse/fuse-utils_2.8.6-2_all.deb
fuse_2.8.6-2.debian.tar.gz
  to main/f/fuse/fuse_2.8.6-2.debian.tar.gz
fuse_2.8.6-2.dsc
  to main/f/fuse/fuse_2.8.6-2.dsc
fuse_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
  to main/f/fuse/fuse_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
libfuse-dev_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
  to main/f/fuse/libfuse-dev_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
libfuse2-udeb_2.8.6-2_i386.udeb
  to main/f/fuse/libfuse2-udeb_2.8.6-2_i386.udeb
libfuse2_2.8.6-2_i386.deb
  to main/f/fuse/libfuse2_2.8.6-2_i386.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 452412@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (supplier of updated fuse package)

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Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:07:53 +0200
Source: fuse
Binary: fuse fuse-dbg fuse-utils libfuse2 libfuse-dev fuse-udeb libfuse2-udeb
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 2.8.6-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>
Changed-By: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>
Description: 
 fuse       - Filesystem in Userspace
 fuse-dbg   - Filesystem in Userspace
 fuse-udeb  - Filesystem in Userspace (udeb)
 fuse-utils - Filesystem in Userspace (transitional package)
 libfuse-dev - Filesystem in Userspace (development)
 libfuse2   - Filesystem in Userspace (library)
 libfuse2-udeb - Filesystem in Userspace (library) (udeb)
Closes: 452412 471199
Changes: 
 fuse (2.8.6-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Using compression level 9 also for binary packages.
   * Moving initramfs hook installatin in rules after dh_install call for
     cosmetic reasons.
   * Dropping obsolete configure handling, not needed anymore with
     current debhelper and dpkg.
   * Removing empty fuse.postrm.
   * Don't restart on upgrade (Closes: #471199).
   * Completing move from /usr to / (Closes: #452412).
   * Dropping old news file.
   * Also using linux-any as architecture in depends.
   * Rewriting copyright file in machine-interpretable format.
   * Rewriting fuse postinst.
   * Sorting targets in rules file.
   * Rewriting fusermount manpage.
   * Adding manpage for ulockmgr_server.
   * Renaming fuse manpage to mount.fuse.
   * Updating email address of Miklos in cve-2011-0542.patch.
   * Updating todo file.
   * Removing double entries in 2.8.5-4 section of debian changelog.
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