Debian Bug report logs - #445085
'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"

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Package: manpages; Maintainer for manpages is Dr. Tobias Quathamer <toddy@debian.org>; Source for manpages is src:manpages (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>

Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:42:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Tags: fixed-upstream, patch

Found in version manpages/2.64-1

Fixed in version manpages/2.65-1

Done: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 02:04:55 -0400
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Package: manpages
Version: 2.64-1
Severity: minor
Tags: patch


Found a typo in '/usr/share/man/man7/iso_8859-2.7.gz', see attached '.diff'.

Hope this helps...

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-k7 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) (ignored: LC_ALL set to C)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

-- no debconf information

[iso_8859-2.7.diff (text/plain, attachment)]

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From: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
To: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org, submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:13:19 +0200
Hi,

> Found a typo in '/usr/share/man/man7/iso_8859-2.7.gz', see attached
> '.diff'.
> 
> Hope this helps...

Yes it does.  Thanks for all these patches.  I'm not sure what
Debian prefers, but for me, working upstream, inlined patches,
rather than attachments, are faster to read and process.

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
maintainer of Linux man pages Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7 

Want to help with man page maintenance?  
Grab the latest tarball at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/manpages , 
read the HOWTOHELP file and grep the source 
files for 'FIXME'.





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Message #20 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>
To: "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
Cc: 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:51:24 -0400
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:13:19 +0200
"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:

> > Hope this helps...
> 
> Yes it does.  Thanks for all these patches.  I'm not sure what
> Debian prefers, but for me, working upstream, inlined patches,

That's interesting; as you deduced, the Debian guys seem to prefer the
'-u' attachments.  There may be a fix, but it's out of my hands
at the moment.  Background:

I'm not a Debian maintainer, but a few years back I wrote a
Debian-centric script to find and submit typo bugs, the script relies
on the Debian BTS as a "one size fits all" interface with the rest of
upstream.  The occasional Debian maintainer has suggested it would be
more efficient to send typo patches directly upstream; but then this
script would have to cope with a plethora of upstream variables, (e.g.
addresses & preferences), instead of one server interface; the Debian
BTS serves as a public storage medium -- other users see the typos, and
these eventually can be data mined (for common typos and useful
patterns).  Not a very elegant way of fixing typos -- it's a
client-side kludge that evolved because I lack server access**.

(**Given server-side capability, many useful things are possible.  For
example, upstream (or their Debian package maintainer) could submit
preferences to our hypothetical typo server, and patches emailed
upstream would be converted to one's favorite format.)




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From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
To: agcosta@gis.net
Cc: 445085@bugs.debian.org, "Martin (Joey) Schulze" <joey@infodrom.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:19:38 +0200

A. Costa wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:13:19 +0200
> "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>>> Hope this helps...
>> Yes it does.  Thanks for all these patches.  I'm not sure what
>> Debian prefers, but for me, working upstream, inlined patches,
> 
> That's interesting; as you deduced, the Debian guys seem to prefer the
> '-u' attachments.  There may be a fix, but it's out of my hands
> at the moment.  Background:
> 
> I'm not a Debian maintainer, but a few years back I wrote a
> Debian-centric script to find and submit typo bugs, the script relies
> on the Debian BTS as a "one size fits all" interface with the rest of
> upstream.  The occasional Debian maintainer has suggested it would be
> more efficient to send typo patches directly upstream; but then this
> script would have to cope with a plethora of upstream variables, (e.g.
> addresses & preferences), instead of one server interface; the Debian
> BTS serves as a public storage medium -- other users see the typos, and
> these eventually can be data mined (for common typos and useful
> patterns).  Not a very elegant way of fixing typos -- it's a
> client-side kludge that evolved because I lack server access**.
> 
> (**Given server-side capability, many useful things are possible.  For
> example, upstream (or their Debian package maintainer) could submit
> preferences to our hypothetical typo server, and patches emailed
> upstream would be converted to one's favorite format.)

Okay.  I see your problem.  (I wonder, is there any way you could tailor
the behavior of your script so that if the man page comes from 2 or 3 of
the biggest upstream man-pages packages (I guess that the man-pages package
I maintain is the largest), then it has specific behavior for that package?
  The output of

dpkg -S $(man -w <man-page-name>)

might be useful here, in order to determine that upstream package.

The whole process is unfortunately very clunky for me as the upstream
maintainer.  I actively track Debian reports downstream and use control
mails to update the bug reports.  It's a lot of overhead for dealing with
simple typos.  In my ideal world, for simple typos like this I'd get a two
line message (I don't even need a patch), that was effectively:

In page xxxx.n
s/old/new/

Under the current setup, I suppose I could just reply saying I fixed the
bug and not bother with the Debian control messages, but then it leaves a
detective job for the downstream maintainer trying to work out whether to
tag a bug as fixed-upstream or not.

Joey, is there any way to streamline things on the Debian side?

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
maintainer of Linux man pages Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

Want to help with man page maintenance?  Grab the latest tarball at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/manpages/
read the HOWTOHELP file and grep the source files for 'FIXME'.






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Message #30 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
Cc: 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:19:46 -0400
A reply to just one point, with more later...

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:19:38 +0200
Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:

> dpkg -S $(man -w <man-page-name>)
> 
> might be useful here, in order to determine that upstream package.

From 2006, a related BTS thread, thankyougoogle:

	http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358102

Rerunning its code in 2007:

	# approximate man page count of my system's debian packages (no symlinks)
	% for f in `dglob | sort`; do b=`dlocate -L $f | grep ".*man/man.*.gz" | while read x ; do file $x  | grep --invert-match '.*symbolic.*' | grep --invert-match directory ; done | wc -l`; [ "$b" ] && [ "$b" -gt 0 ] && printf "%6s  %s\n" $b $f ; done > /tmp/mancount.txt

	# a few minutes later...
	% sort -bg /tmp/mancount.txt | tail | tac
	   687  manpages-dev
	   611  libx11-dev
	   491  perl-doc
	   230  netpbm
	   146  libsvga1-dev
	   145  libintl-perl
	   141  xscreensaver
	   136  pdl
	   129  libfontconfig1-dev
	   128  manpages




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Message #35 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
To: agcosta@gis.net
Cc: 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:41:54 +0200
A. Costa wrote:
> A reply to just one point, with more later...
> 
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:19:38 +0200
> Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>> dpkg -S $(man -w <man-page-name>)
>>
>> might be useful here, in order to determine that upstream package.
> 
>>From 2006, a related BTS thread, thankyougoogle:
> 
> 	http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358102
> 
> Rerunning its code in 2007:
> 
> 	# approximate man page count of my system's debian packages (no symlinks)
> 	% for f in `dglob | sort`; do b=`dlocate -L $f | grep ".*man/man.*.gz" | while read x ; do file $x  | grep --invert-match '.*symbolic.*' | grep --invert-match directory ; done | wc -l`; [ "$b" ] && [ "$b" -gt 0 ] && printf "%6s  %s\n" $b $f ; done > /tmp/mancount.txt
> 
> 	# a few minutes later...
> 	% sort -bg /tmp/mancount.txt | tail | tac
> 	   687  manpages-dev
> 	   611  libx11-dev
> 	   491  perl-doc
> 	   230  netpbm
> 	   146  libsvga1-dev
> 	   145  libintl-perl
> 	   141  xscreensaver
> 	   136  pdl
> 	   129  libfontconfig1-dev
> 	   128  manpages
> 

Gosh X11 really is big, isn't it ;-).  I don't have Debian handy -- it 
would be interested to know what's in manpages-dev and manpages.




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Message #40 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Justin Pryzby <jpryzby+d@quoininc.com>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: agcosta@gis.net
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:31:19 -0400
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:41:54AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> A. Costa wrote:
>> A reply to just one point, with more later...
>> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:19:38 +0200 Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> dpkg -S $(man -w <man-page-name>)
>>>
>>> might be useful here, in order to determine that upstream package.
>>> From 2006, a related BTS thread, thankyougoogle:
>> 	http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358102
>> Rerunning its code in 2007:
>> 	# approximate man page count of my system's debian packages (no symlinks)
>> 	% for f in `dglob | sort`; do b=`dlocate -L $f | grep ".*man/man.*.gz" | 

>> 	% sort -bg /tmp/mancount.txt | tail | tac
>> 	   687  manpages-dev
>> 	   611  libx11-dev

>> 	   128  manpages
>
> Gosh X11 really is big, isn't it ;-).  I don't have Debian handy -- it 
> would be interested to know what's in manpages-dev and manpages.
You can get a list of files by chosing from here: "sid" then "list of
files": http://packages.debian.org./manpages




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Message #45 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>
To: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debc <control@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:52:10 +0200
tags 445085 fixed-upstream
thanks

fixed for upstream 2.68.

Thanks.

A. Costa wrote:
> Package: manpages
> Version: 2.64-1
> Severity: minor
> Tags: patch
> 
> 
> Found a typo in '/usr/share/man/man7/iso_8859-2.7.gz', see attached '.diff'.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: lenny/sid
>   APT prefers unstable
>   APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
> Architecture: i386 (i686)
> 
> Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-k7 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
> Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) (ignored: LC_ALL set to C)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
> 
> -- no debconf information
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --- iso_8859-2.7	2007-05-19 03:33:15.000000000 -0400
> +++ /tmp/iso_8859-2.7	2007-10-02 02:52:54.000000000 -0400
> @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
>  .P
>  ISO 8859-2 supports the following languages: Albanian, Bosnian,
>  Croatian, Czech, English, Finnish, German, Hungarian, Irish, Polish,
> -Slovak, Slovenian and Sorbian.
> +Slovak, Slovenian and Serbian.
>  .P
>  Also note that the following Cyrillic-based languages have one-to-one
>  transliterations to Latin 2: Macedonian and Serbian.
> 

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
maintainer of Linux man pages Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

Want to help with man page maintenance?  Grab the latest tarball at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/manpages/
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Message #52 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:15:53 +0100
Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Found a typo in '/usr/share/man/man7/iso_8859-2.7.gz', see attached
> > '.diff'.
> > 
> > Hope this helps...
> 
> Yes it does.  Thanks for all these patches.  I'm not sure what
> Debian prefers, but for me, working upstream, inlined patches,
> rather than attachments, are faster to read and process.

That depends a lot on the maintainer.  I'm fine with both, however
longer patches are easier to handle if they are attached, since the
mail describing them doesn't get too long and distributed over
several screen pages.

Regards,

	Joey

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Message #57 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
To: "A. Costa" <agcosta@gis.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:14:42 +0100
A. Costa wrote:
> Package: manpages
> Version: 2.64-1
> Severity: minor
> Tags: patch
> 
> 
> Found a typo in '/usr/share/man/man7/iso_8859-2.7.gz', see attached '.diff'.

Thanks, will fix in 2.65-1.

Regards,

	Joey

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From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
To: agcosta@gis.net, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:21:53 +0100
A. Costa wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:13:19 +0200
> "Michael Kerrisk" <mtk-manpages@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> > > Hope this helps...
> > 
> > Yes it does.  Thanks for all these patches.  I'm not sure what
> > Debian prefers, but for me, working upstream, inlined patches,
> 
> That's interesting; as you deduced, the Debian guys seem to prefer the
> '-u' attachments.  There may be a fix, but it's out of my hands
> at the moment.  Background:
> 
> I'm not a Debian maintainer, but a few years back I wrote a
> Debian-centric script to find and submit typo bugs, the script relies

Cool!

Is this maybe integrated in lintian/linda?  If not, it may be worth
taking it there.  At least lintian is run periodically over all
packages in unstable and many maintainers run it locally on their
packages as well.

> on the Debian BTS as a "one size fits all" interface with the rest of
> upstream.  The occasional Debian maintainer has suggested it would be

This should work fine.

> more efficient to send typo patches directly upstream; but then this
> script would have to cope with a plethora of upstream variables, (e.g.
> addresses & preferences), instead of one server interface; the Debian

You'd also have to take care of typos introduced by a sloppy Debian
maintainer - when the typo does not exist upstream.

Regards,

	Joey

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Message #67 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: agcosta@gis.net
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:26:35 +0100
Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Under the current setup, I suppose I could just reply saying I fixed the
> bug and not bother with the Debian control messages, but then it leaves a
> detective job for the downstream maintainer trying to work out whether to
> tag a bug as fixed-upstream or not.

If it saves you time, just do it.  Usually, you respond with the
version of the upstream package you are applying the patch to.  That
information together with your wonderful verbose Changes file is
sufficient for me to determine whether a bug can be closed and the
like.

The bug reports would last longer in the state open instead of
fixed-upstream, but for the Debian environment that doesn't matter
since the bug is still open inside Debian anyway.  However, man-pages
are updated quite often, and I'm at least trying not to let too much
time pass until I update the Debian package.

Regards,

	Joey

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Message #72 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: agcosta@gis.net
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:31:19 +0100
Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> Gosh X11 really is big, isn't it ;-).  I don't have Debian handy -- it 
> would be interested to know what's in manpages-dev and manpages.

Basically it is:

manpages:     man[45678]
manpages-dev: man[23]

with several deletions.

Installation is controlled via this script:
http://cvs.infodrom.org/./manpages/debian/inst?rev=HEAD;content-type=text%2Fplain;cvsroot=debian

As Justin pointed out some of the information is available via
packages.debian.org.  You can also download source/binary packages
and inspect them.  a .deb is nothing more than an ar archive of
two tar files and some meta data.  ar -x foo.deb will give you
data.tar.gz.

Regards,

	Joey

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To: 445085-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#445085: fixed in manpages 2.65-1
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:47:25 +0000
Source: manpages
Source-Version: 2.65-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
manpages, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

manpages-dev_2.65-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/m/manpages/manpages-dev_2.65-1_all.deb
manpages_2.65-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/m/manpages/manpages_2.65-1.diff.gz
manpages_2.65-1.dsc
  to pool/main/m/manpages/manpages_2.65-1.dsc
manpages_2.65-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/m/manpages/manpages_2.65-1_all.deb
manpages_2.65.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/m/manpages/manpages_2.65.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 445085@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org> (supplier of updated manpages package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:43:23 +0100
Source: manpages
Binary: manpages manpages-dev
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.65-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>
Changed-By: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>
Description: 
 manpages   - Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system
 manpages-dev - Manual pages about using GNU/Linux for development
Closes: 431480 435415 435885 437112 439560 445085 445086 445087 445088 445089
Changes: 
 manpages (2.65-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version
     . Spelling and formatting fixes (closes: Bug#439560)
     . Correction of EINVAL in swapon(2) (closes: Bug#435885)
     . Clarify utimes() behaviour in utime(2) (closes: Bug#431480)
     . remove ambiguity in description in copysign(3) (closes: Bug#435415)
     . document stolen time in proc(5) (closes: Bug#437112)
   * Fix spelling error in iso_8859-2(7) (closes: Bug#445085)
   * Fixed typo in missing(7) (closes: Bug#445087)
   * Fixed typos in ip(7) (closes: Bug#445088)
   * Fixed typo in hier(7) (closes: Bug#445086)
   * Improvement to services(5) by A. Costa (closes: Bug#445089)
Files: 
 488233a627242111810be6b0b4067545 584 doc important manpages_2.65-1.dsc
 8dcdc34d0314a148513f5502a3f17377 1267435 doc important manpages_2.65.orig.tar.gz
 1a1558531f901fef4c483e08acebdfda 57767 doc important manpages_2.65-1.diff.gz
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>:
Bug#445085; Package manpages. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #82 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Sorbian!=Serbian
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:41:10 +0100
Uhm, that's wrong.  This was not a typo, Sorbian _is_ a valid language that
does happen to use ISO-8859-2.  On the other hand, S_e_rbian uses Cyrillic
which is not covered by 8859-2 -- yet to muddle the waters Serbian is
sometimes written using Latin script (albeit it's usually called Croatian or
Serbo-croatian then).

-- 
1KB		// Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor:
		//	Never attribute to stupidity what can be
		//	adequately explained by malice.




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>:
Bug#445085; Package manpages. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #87 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: Sorbian!=Serbian
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:17:05 +0100
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Uhm, that's wrong.  This was not a typo, Sorbian _is_ a valid language that
> does happen to use ISO-8859-2.  On the other hand, S_e_rbian uses Cyrillic
> which is not covered by 8859-2 -- yet to muddle the waters Serbian is
> sometimes written using Latin script (albeit it's usually called Croatian or
> Serbo-croatian then).

Hello Adam,

Thank you for the language lesson!  Now I see Wikipedia provides all the
details on ISO 8859-2.  I will reverse the "fix" I made in upstream 2.68.
The fix will be in 2.69.

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
maintainer of Linux man pages Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

Want to help with man page maintenance?  Grab the latest tarball at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/manpages/
read the HOWTOHELP file and grep the source files for 'FIXME'.





Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>:
Bug#445085; Package manpages. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <joey@debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #92 received at 445085@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
To: Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>, 445085@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk-manpages@gmx.net>, agcosta@gis.net
Subject: Re: Bug#445085: 'man iso_8859-2' typo: "Sorbian"
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:17:58 +0100

Martin Schulze wrote:
> Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>> Under the current setup, I suppose I could just reply saying I fixed the
>> bug and not bother with the Debian control messages, but then it leaves a
>> detective job for the downstream maintainer trying to work out whether to
>> tag a bug as fixed-upstream or not.
> 
> If it saves you time, just do it.

Okay -- I may do that then.

> Usually, you respond with the
> version of the upstream package you are applying the patch to.  That
> information together with your wonderful verbose Changes file is
> sufficient for me to determine whether a bug can be closed and the
> like.

Okay -- good.

> The bug reports would last longer in the state open instead of
> fixed-upstream, but for the Debian environment that doesn't matter
> since the bug is still open inside Debian anyway.  However, man-pages
> are updated quite often, and I'm at least trying not to let too much
> time pass until I update the Debian package.

Also good.

Best regards.

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
maintainer of Linux man pages Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

Want to help with man page maintenance?  Grab the latest tarball at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/manpages/
read the HOWTOHELP file and grep the source files for 'FIXME'.





Tags added: fixed-upstream Request was from Justin Pryzby <jpryzby+d@quoininc.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:09:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:28:59 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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