Debian Bug report logs - #443274
Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:18:18 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Can'not get any display with Radeon Xpress 200
Package: xorg
Version: 1:7.2-5
Severity: grave

After switching to 7.3+2 X-window became unusable. I have to dual-head
setup with two different graphic cards. One of them is a PCI Matrox
Millenium (2064W) and the other is a Radeon Xpress 200 (onboard). After
the upgrade I could only see a blank screen on Radeon but Matrox had a
normal display. I have also tried a single head display with Radeon but
this didn't help either. I am attaching lspci -nn and xorg.conf
configurations below. I also had to revert back my xorg installation to have usable system. So my package information in this bug report does not show the exact state of the packages when this error occured. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
aldemir@aldemir:~$ lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 200 Host
Bridge [1002:5a33] (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[1002:5a3f]
00:19.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ALi Corporation M5249 HTT to PCI Bridge
[10b9:5249]
00:1c.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
[10b9:5237] (rev 03)
00:1c.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
[10b9:5237] (rev 03)
00:1c.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller
[10b9:5237] (rev 03)
00:1c.3 USB Controller [0c03]: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller
[10b9:5239] (rev 01)
00:1d.0 Audio device [0403]: ALi Corporation High Definition Audio/AC'97
Host Controller [10b9:5461]
00:1e.0 ISA bridge [0601]: ALi Corporation PCI to LPC Controller
[10b9:1573] (rev 31)
00:1e.1 Bridge [0680]: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller
[PMU] [10b9:7101]
00:1f.0 IDE interface [0101]: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE [10b9:5229] (rev
c7)
00:1f.1 RAID bus controller [0104]: ALi Corporation ULi 5287 SATA
[10b9:5287] (rev 02)
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RC410
[Radeon Xpress 200] [1002:5a61]
02:11.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA
2064W [Millennium] [102b:0519] (rev 01)
02:15.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller [11ab:4320] (rev 13)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "Files"

Section "Module"
        Load    "bitmap"
        Load    "ddc"
        Load    "dri"
        Load    "extmod"
        Load    "freetype"
        Load    "glx"
        Load    "int10"
        Load    "type1"
        Load    "vbe"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
        Option  "Xinerama"      "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "kbd"
        Option          "CoreKeyboard"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
        Option          "XkbVariant"    "us"
#       Option          "XKbOptions"    ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "CorePointer"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
        Option          "Protocol"              "ExplorerPS/2"
        Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "Ati"
        Option          "RenderAccel"           "true"
        Option          "DRI"                   "true"
        #########Option         "ShadowFB"              "0"
        Driver          "ati"
        BusID           "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "Matrox"
        Option          "DRI"           "true"
        Driver          "mga"
        BusID           "PCI:2:17:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "dell"
        Option          "DPMS"
        HorizSync       28-64
        VertRefresh     43-60
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "acer"
        Option          "DPMS"
        HorizSync       28-64
        VertRefresh     43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier      "Screen 1"
        Device          "Ati"
        Monitor         "dell"
        DefaultDepth    16
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           1
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           4
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           8
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           15
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           16
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           24
                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier      "Screen 2"
        Device          "Matrox"
        Monitor         "acer"
        DefaultDepth    16
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           1
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           4
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           8
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           15
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           16
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           24
                Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier      "Default Layout"
        Screen  0       "Screen 1" 0 0
        Screen  1       "Screen 2" RightOf "Screen 1"
        InputDevice     "Generic Keyboard"
        InputDevice     "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode    0666
EndSection

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages xorg depends on:
ii  gnome-terminal [x-ter 2.18.2-1           The GNOME 2 terminal emulator appl
ii  libgl1-mesa-glx [libg 7.0.1-2            A free implementation of the OpenG
ii  libglu1-mesa          7.0.1-2            The OpenGL utility library (GLU)
ii  type-handling [not+sp 0.2.21             dpkg architecture generation scrip
ii  xbase-clients         1:7.3+2            miscellaneous X clients - metapack
ii  xfonts-100dpi         1:1.0.0-4          100 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-75dpi          1:1.0.0-4          75 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-base           1:1.0.0-5          standard fonts for X
ii  xfonts-scalable       1:1.0.0-6          scalable fonts for X
ii  xkb-data              1.0~cvs.20070916-1 X Keyboard Extension (XKB) configu
ii  xorg-docs             1:1.4-2            Miscellaneous documentation for th
ii  xserver-xorg          1:7.2-5            the X.Org X server
ii  xterm [x-terminal-emu 229-1              X terminal emulator
ii  xutils                1:7.3+2            X Window System utility programs m

Versions of packages xorg recommends:
ii  libgl1-mesa-dri               7.0.1-2    A free implementation of the OpenG

-- no debconf information




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Message #10 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: (no subject)

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:44:31 +0200

On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 00:18:18 -0700, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:

> After switching to 7.3+2 X-window became unusable. I have to dual-head
> setup with two different graphic cards. One of them is a PCI Matrox
> Millenium (2064W) and the other is a Radeon Xpress 200 (onboard). After
> the upgrade I could only see a blank screen on Radeon but Matrox had a
> normal display. I have also tried a single head display with Radeon but
> this didn't help either. I am attaching lspci -nn and xorg.conf
> configurations below. I also had to revert back my xorg installation
> to have usable system. So my package information in this bug report
> does not show the exact state of the packages when this error occured. 
> 
Please send us the X log from the broken setup (with xserver-xorg-core
1.4).

Thanks,
Julien

Message #21 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:31:52 -0700 (PDT)

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Hi,
Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. 

Thanks,
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Message #26 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: (no subject)

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:54:49 +0200

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Subject: Can'not get any display with Radeon Xpress 200
> Package: xorg
> Version: 1:7.2-5
> Severity: grave
>
> After switching to 7.3+2 X-window became unusable. I have to dual-head
> setup with two different graphic cards. One of them is a PCI Matrox
> Millenium (2064W) and the other is a Radeon Xpress 200 (onboard). After
> the upgrade I could only see a blank screen on Radeon but Matrox had a
> normal display. I have also tried a single head display with Radeon but
> this didn't help either. I am attaching lspci -nn and xorg.conf
> configurations below. I also had to revert back my xorg installation to have usable system. So my package information in this bug report does not show the exact state of the packages when this error occured. 
>   

You should try disabling DRI on the Radeon card (with Option "DRI" "off"
in the corresponding section Device in xorg.conf). Check Xorg.0.log to
be sure DRI is actually disabled on the Radeon then. We have a bug
report [1] about DRI leading to blank screen on Xpress200 with recent
drivers and kernels (DRI was not supported earlier).

Brice

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=437321

Message #31 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:04:17 +0200

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either.

Ok I didn't see that before replying, thanks for testing.

> I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. 
>   

Assuming you downgraded back to Xorg 7.2 and Xserver 1.3, could you try
the following old xserver-xorg-video-ati package? It's the same driver
for the old Xserver 1.3. It will help us know whether the problem is in
Xserver 1.4 or in the driver.

http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/08/05/debian/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.6.193-1_i386.deb

Brice

Message #36 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:40:36 +0200

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On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:31:52 -0700, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:

> Hi,
> Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI
> completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. I
> also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X
> can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the
> dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon
> Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. 
> 
Does it work if you use a single-head setup enabling only the ati board?

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #41 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:57:43 -0700 (PDT)

Hi,
I have installed the deb package you have provided, and yes this thing causes the problem I am having. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log file for that session. I have tried disabling dri as well but that didn't work. I have both tried Setting disable "dri" in the modules section and option "dri" "off" in both devices section.
--
aldemir

----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>; 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, 20 September, 2007 8:04:17 PM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either.

Ok I didn't see that before replying, thanks for testing.

> I also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. 
>   

Assuming you downgraded back to Xorg 7.2 and Xserver 1.3, could you try
the following old xserver-xorg-video-ati package? It's the same driver
for the old Xserver 1.3. It will help us know whether the problem is in
Xserver 1.4 or in the driver.

http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2007/08/05/debian/pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-video-ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.6.193-1_i386.deb

Brice





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Message #46 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:00:12 -0700 (PDT)

No it doesn't. Also X process can not be killed with a -9 as well. As you might imagine Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't bring back the console too.
But with a dual-head setup Ctrl+Alt+Backspace works and X can be killed. 
--
aldemir

----- Original Message ----
From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>; 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 1:40:36 AM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:31:52 -0700, Aldemir Akpinar wrote:

> Hi,
> Please find the attached Xorg.0.log file. I also tried disabling DRI
> completely as stated in Bug #437321 but that didn't work either. I
> also think this problem is not related with dual card setup, because X
> can enable my display connected to Matrox but not Radeon (w/ the
> dual-head setup). I have never managed to get a display w/ my Radeon
> Xpress 200 card on 7.3+2. 
> 
Does it work if you use a single-head setup enabling only the ati board?

Cheers,
Julien





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Message #51 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Attachment

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:28:31 -0700 (PDT)

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Sorry, I forgot to attach the Xorg.0.log for the last try. You find it in this mail.
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Message #56 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:41:29 +0200

reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati
found 443274 1:6.6.193-3
severity 443274 important
retitle 443274 xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.6.193-3 gives black screen on Xpress 200 [RC410, 5a61] (even without DRI)
thank you




Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Hi,
> I have installed the deb package you have provided, and yes this thing causes the problem I am having. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log file for that session. I have tried disabling dri as well but that didn't work. I have both tried Setting disable "dri" in the modules section and option "dri" "off" in both devices section.
>   

Ok I am reassigning back to ati driver then. It looks like another
Xpress 200 chipset related problem. You might want to try
xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.193-1 currently in experimental, it
contains some fixes for these chipsets. Or you can stay in testing (ati
6.6.3 + xserver-xorg-core 1.3). Or you can stay in unstable and use a
rebuild of the old 6.6.3 driver for Xserver 1.4, I'll build that soon
anyway.

Brice

Message #69 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:53:35 +0200

Brice Goglin wrote:
> Or you can stay in unstable and use a rebuild of the old 6.6.3 driver for Xserver 1.4, I'll build that soon anyway.
>   

http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/ati-rebuilds/6.6.3-Xserver1.4/

To use this package, upgrade back to unstable (xserver-xorg-core 1.4 and
drivers) and then replace your xserver-xorg-video-ati with this one
(dpkg -i foo.deb). If it works, there is no problem for you with Xserver
1.4, only the ati driver 6.6.193-3 is broken.

Brice

Message #74 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:07:32 -0700 (PDT)

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I have tried your unstable package, and it works fabulously. In fact I am using it right now.  
I have also tried the package in experimental but that one gave me a segfault. What I did was, first I upgraded my X 
to unstable version (7.3). Then I got the experimental package with 
apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati -t experimental
. And I am attaching the log file as well. 
Blessings,
--
aldemir
----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>
Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 10:53:35 AM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Brice Goglin wrote:
> Or you can stay in unstable and use a rebuild of the old 6.6.3 driver for Xserver 1.4, I'll build that soon anyway.
>   

http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/ati-rebuilds/6.6.3-Xserver1.4/

To use this package, upgrade back to unstable (xserver-xorg-core 1.4 and
drivers) and then replace your xserver-xorg-video-ati with this one
(dpkg -i foo.deb). If it works, there is no problem for you with Xserver
1.4, only the ati driver 6.6.193-3 is broken.

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Message #79 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>, 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:19:06 +0200

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> I have tried your unstable package, and it works fabulously. In fact I am using it right now.  
>   

Good to know!

> I have also tried the package in experimental but that one gave me a segfault. What I did was, first I upgraded my X 
> to unstable version (7.3). Then I got the experimental package with 
> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati -t experimental
> . And I am attaching the log file as well. 
>   

From the log, it looks like you had the MGA board enabled in xorg.conf.
I am afraid this setup cannot work since the new ati driver 6.7.193 uses
RandR 1.2 while the mga driver does not, and the server does not seem to
appreciate multiple boards in RandR 1.2 so far, and it's not clear it's
going to be fixed soon unfortunately. So it'd be good to comment out all
MGA related lines in xorg.conf and test with 6.7.193-1 again. That would
help us know:
* does ati 6.7.193 fixes the problem for your board that 6.6.193 has?
(you might need to disable DRI again, not sure)
* how does the server behave when mixing RandR 1.2 and non-RandR drivers

We could also imagine that you test the new RandR 1.2 MGA driver (1.9.99
in experimental), but you might hate me if I ask for more testing :) And
this driver seems pretty young so far, so we'll see that later.

thanks,
Brice

Message #84 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:40:59 -0700 (PDT)

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Hi there,
Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. 
Thanks,
--
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----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>; 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:19:06 AM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> I have tried your unstable package, and it works fabulously. In fact I am using it right now.  
>   

Good to know!

> I have also tried the package in experimental but that one gave me a segfault. What I did was, first I upgraded my X 
> to unstable version (7.3). Then I got the experimental package with 
> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati -t experimental
> . And I am attaching the log file as well. 
>   

From the log, it looks like you had the MGA board enabled in xorg.conf.
I am afraid this setup cannot work since the new ati driver 6.7.193 uses
RandR 1.2 while the mga driver does not, and the server does not seem to
appreciate multiple boards in RandR 1.2 so far, and it's not clear it's
going to be fixed soon unfortunately. So it'd be good to comment out all
MGA related lines in xorg.conf and test with 6.7.193-1 again. That would
help us know:
* does ati 6.7.193 fixes the problem for your board that 6.6.193 has?
(you might need to disable DRI again, not sure)
* how does the server behave when mixing RandR 1.2 and non-RandR drivers

We could also imagine that you test the new RandR 1.2 MGA driver (1.9.99
in experimental), but you might hate me if I ask for more testing :) And
this driver seems pretty young so far, so we'll see that later.

thanks,
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[Xorg.0.log.segfault2 (application/octet-stream, attachment)]

Message #89 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:47:01 +0200

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Hi there,
> Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. 
>   

Thanks.

May I see your xorg.conf when MGA is disabled? I want to make sure there
is no dangerous line, for instance "Screen 0 Rightof 1", RandR drivers
generally don't like these. Even with MGA disabled, it could cause ATI
6.7.192 to crash.

If it even crashes when the whole dual-board config is disabled, the
next step would be to remove the MGA board from the machine so that the
server does not even try to look at it, I'll understand if you can't do
this :)

Brice

Message #94 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:54:13 -0700 (PDT)

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Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used. I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). 
But I think I can try that tomorrow.
Thanks,
--
aldemir

----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>
Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:47:01 AM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Hi there,
> Ok I have made some more tests. I have installed xorg packages from unstable. I have also install mga and ati drivers from experimental. What happens is whether I turn off definitions for Mga or not I get a segfault. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log again. In this log file I have executed X with a single head-setup. Let me know if you need more information. I can do some more testing I think. 
>   

Thanks.

May I see your xorg.conf when MGA is disabled? I want to make sure there
is no dangerous line, for instance "Screen 0 Rightof 1", RandR drivers
generally don't like these. Even with MGA disabled, it could cause ATI
6.7.192 to crash.

If it even crashes when the whole dual-board config is disabled, the
next step would be to remove the MGA board from the machine so that the
server does not even try to look at it, I'll understand if you can't do
this :)

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[xorg.conf (application/octet-stream, attachment)]

Message #99 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:57:55 +0200

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used.

You should comment this out:

    Section "ServerFlags"
            Option  "Xinerama"      "true"
    EndSection

And maybe change the following line
    Screen  0       "Screen 1" 0 0
into
    Screen "Screen 1"


> I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). 
> But I think I can try that tomorrow.
>   

Let's see what happens with the above changes in xorg.conf first.

Thanks a lot Aldemir, you're being great.

Brice

Message #104 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:40:05 -0700 (PDT)

Hello,

With the lines you have specified removed, I can confirmed that the driver in experimental works in a single-head configuration.
Thanks,
--
aldemir

----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>
Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Friday, 21 September, 2007 11:57:55 AM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Attaching the xorg.conf file that i used.

You should comment this out:

    Section "ServerFlags"
            Option  "Xinerama"      "true"
    EndSection

And maybe change the following line
    Screen  0       "Screen 1" 0 0
into
    Screen "Screen 1"


> I can't remove the mga card today ( would be too much disruption for my work.). 
> But I think I can try that tomorrow.
>   

Let's see what happens with the above changes in xorg.conf first.

Thanks a lot Aldemir, you're being great.

Brice






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Message #109 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:59:00 +0200

reassign 443274 xserver-xorg-core
found 443274 2:1.4-2
retitle 443274 Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added
thank you



Aldemir Akpinar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> With the lines you have specified removed, I can confirmed that the driver in experimental works in a single-head configuration.
>   

Ok, thanks for testing. So, to summarize:
* The ATI driver 6.6.193 is broken in this board but 6.7.193 is fine.
* Xserver 1.4 + ATI RandR 1.2 does not accept another board/driver in
the config, and it might take time to get this fixed... I am
retitling/reassigning back to the Xserver now that ATI driver issues are
clarified.

Brice

Message #120 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: 443274@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#443274: Xserver 1.4 + RandR 1.2 driver crash in xf86CrtcScreenInit if a second board/driver is added

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:25:55 +0200

severity 443274 serious
thank you


I am bumping the severity to serious so that xserver-xorg-core 1.4 does
not enter testing for now. It is not clear that this issue is the
biggest one in Xserver 1.4 though, and it is not clear either that we
could have a fix for this one soon...

Brice

Message #133 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:42:02 +0100

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 12:59:00PM +0200, Brice Goglin wrote:

> Ok, thanks for testing. So, to summarize:
> * The ATI driver 6.6.193 is broken in this board but 6.7.193 is fine.
> * Xserver 1.4 + ATI RandR 1.2 does not accept another board/driver in
> the config, and it might take time to get this fixed... I am
> retitling/reassigning back to the Xserver now that ATI driver issues are
> clarified.

Aldemir,

We are trying to make sure that Xserver 1.4 is really the problem here.
So we want to know whether Xserver 1.3 works when a RandR 1.2 (such as
ATI) and another one (such as MGA) are used at the same time.

I just build a very recent snapshot of the ATI driver for testing/Lenny:
  http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/rebuilds/ati-6.7.198-Xserver1.3/
Could you test it (after downgrading to xserver-xorg-core 1.3 from
testing if necessary) and see whether it works with the MGA driver enabled
at the same time? You'll just need a config with both drivers, probably
very similar to what you had at the beginning of this bug report.

You might need to try with and without some advanced config such as
       Screen  0       "Screen 1" 0 0
       Screen  1       "Screen 2" RightOf "Screen 1"
in the ServerLayout section.

thanks in advance,
Brice

Message #138 received at 443274@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>

To: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:19:45 -0800 (PST)

Hi Brice,
The trouble is, I've upgraded my computer and I'm not using that setup anymore. I'm sorry. 
--
aldemir

----- Original Message ----
From: Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@ens-lyon.org>
To: Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir_a@yahoo.com>
Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 11:42:02 PM
Subject: Re: Bug#443274: dual-card setup doesn't work with X 1.4

On 
Sat, 
Sep 
22, 
2007 
at 
12:59:00PM 
+0200, 
Brice 
Goglin 
wrote:

> 
Ok, 
thanks 
for 
testing. 
So, 
to 
summarize:
> 
* 
The 
ATI 
driver 
6.6.193 
is 
broken 
in 
this 
board 
but 
6.7.193 
is 
fine.
> 
* 
Xserver 
1.4 
+ 
ATI 
RandR 
1.2 
does 
not 
accept 
another 
board/driver 
in
> 
the 
config, 
and 
it 
might 
take 
time 
to 
get 
this 
fixed... 
I 
am
> 
retitling/reassigning 
back 
to 
the 
Xserver 
now 
that 
ATI 
driver 
issues 
are
> 
clarified.

Aldemir,

We 
are 
trying 
to 
make 
sure 
that 
Xserver 
1.4 
is 
really 
the 
problem 
here.
So 
we 
want 
to 
know 
whether 
Xserver 
1.3 
works 
when 
a 
RandR 
1.2 
(such 
as
ATI) 
and 
another 
one 
(such 
as 
MGA) 
are 
used 
at 
the 
same 
time.

I 
just 
build 
a 
very 
recent 
snapshot 
of 
the 
ATI 
driver 
for 
testing/Lenny:
  
http://people.debian.org/~bgoglin/rebuilds/ati-6.7.198-Xserver1.3/
Could 
you 
test 
it 
(after 
downgrading 
to 
xserver-xorg-core 
1.3 
from
testing 
if 
necessary) 
and 
see 
whether 
it 
works 
with 
the 
MGA 
driver 
enabled
at 
the 
same 
time? 
You'll 
just 
need 
a 
config 
with 
both 
drivers, 
probably
very 
similar 
to 
what 
you 
had 
at 
the 
beginning 
of 
this 
bug 
report.

You 
might 
need 
to 
try 
with 
and 
without 
some 
advanced 
config 
such 
as
  
  
  
 
Screen  
0  
  
  
 
"Screen 
1" 
0 
0
  
  
  
 
Screen  
1  
  
  
 
"Screen 
2" 
RightOf 
"Screen 
1"
in 
the 
ServerLayout 
section.

thanks 
in 
advance,
Brice





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Message #143 received at 443274-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marek Straka <marek@straka.info>

To: 443274-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: not able to test again

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:33:50 +0100

Package: xserver-xorg-core
Version: 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---

Aldemir is not able to test if this bug still remains. It may be reopened if it appears again.

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To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 443274@bugs.debian.org

Subject: severity of 443274 is important

Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:42:57 +0200

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