Debian Bug report logs - #432666
sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@debian.at>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:39:47 +0200

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Package: sauerbraten
Version: 0.0.20070413.dfsg-1
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

        Hi!

 sauerbraten segfaults on my PowerBook G4 no matter if I start it with
-f (then I receive a bit of output) or not.  Please find attached an
strace and gdb bt output.

 If you have any further hints how I can help (propably you want to
offer a -dbg package?) just let me know.

 So long,
Rhonda

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.21-2-powerpc
Locale: LANG=de_AT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_AT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages sauerbraten depends on:
ii  libc6                   2.6-2            GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libgcc1                 1:4.2-20070707-1 GCC support library
ii  libgl1-mesa-glx [libgl1 6.5.2-6          A free implementation of the OpenG
ii  libglu1-mesa [libglu1]  6.5.2-6          The OpenGL utility library (GLU)
ii  libsdl-image1.2         1.2.5-3          image loading library for Simple D
ii  libsdl-mixer1.2         1.2.6-2          mixer library for Simple DirectMed
ii  libsdl1.2debian         1.2.11-9         Simple DirectMedia Layer
ii  libstdc++6              4.2-20070707-1   The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-6                2:1.0.3-7        X11 client-side library
ii  sauerbraten-data        0.0.20070413-1   Game content for the Sauerbraten g
ii  zlib1g                  1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5 compression library - runtime

sauerbraten recommends no packages.

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Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gonéri Le Bouder <goneri@rulezlan.org>

To: Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@debian.at>, 432666@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#432666: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:38:06 +0200

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On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 11:39:47AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> Package: sauerbraten
> Version: 0.0.20070413.dfsg-1
> Severity: grave
> Justification: renders package unusable
> 
>         Hi!
> 
>  sauerbraten segfaults on my PowerBook G4 no matter if I start it with
> -f (then I receive a bit of output) or not.  Please find attached an
> strace and gdb bt output.
> 
>  If you have any further hints how I can help (propably you want to
> offer a -dbg package?) just let me know.
Hi Rhonda,

Can you check if you still have the problem with mesa 7.0.1-2?

Cheers,

      Gonéri

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Message #20 received at 432666@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@debian.at>

To: Gonéri Le Bouder <goneri@rulezlan.org>, 432666@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432666: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:08:41 +0200

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 04:38:06AM +0200, Gonéri Le Bouder wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 11:39:47AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> >  sauerbraten segfaults on my PowerBook G4 no matter if I start it with
> > -f (then I receive a bit of output) or not.  Please find attached an
> > strace and gdb bt output.
> > 
> >  If you have any further hints how I can help (propably you want to
> > offer a -dbg package?) just let me know.
>
> Hi Rhonda,
> 
> Can you check if you still have the problem with mesa 7.0.1-2?

 It does segfault only when invoked without -f now.  But when invoked
with -f I get a very greyish display with some bluegreyish parts in it
which seems to be sort of progress informations, and then the game
itself comes up - but is unusable due to total lack of any frames per
second, I guess it seems to be one frame every three seconds or such, in
contrary to tremulous, nexuiz and warsow which perform pretty well.

 So long,
Rhonda

Message #25 received at 432666@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu>

To: 432666@bugs.debian.org

Subject: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:40:54 +0100

Hello Bruno and Games Team

Couly you please make it doesn't build on powerpc anymore and close this bug?
(see the debian/control file, Architecture: field)

Many thanks,
Gürkan

Message #30 received at 432666@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de>

To: Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu>

Cc: 432666@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:14:22 +0100

Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu> writes:

> Hello Bruno and Games Team
>
> Couly you please make it doesn't build on powerpc anymore and close this bug?
> (see the debian/control file, Architecture: field)

Please don't do that!

There is no way in debian/control to express "build on anything but,,,",
The only option you'd have is to make a list like "build only on...".

Better write some lines on the top of debian/rules which checks if it is
run on a blacklist of architectures (like powerpc), and use the $(error)
make command to fail the build. This way you can document why you are
failing the build, and make it trivial for powerpc porters to work on
this package.

As for overusing the buildds: The buildd maintainers will detect this
after the first failure, and add the package to the NFU list.

I'm doing this change in svn now.

-- 
Gruesse/greetings,
Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4

Message #37 received at 432666@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu>

To: Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de>, lamont@debian.org

Cc: 432666@bugs.debian.org, "Bruno \"Fuddl\" Kleinert" <fuddl@gmx.de>

Subject: Re: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:27:03 +0100

Dear LaMont Jones

Please can you do the requested changes on P-A-S now?



Dear Reinhard

>> Couly you please make it doesn't build on powerpc anymore and close this bug?
>> (see the debian/control file, Architecture: field)
> 
> Please don't do that!
>
> There is no way in debian/control to express "build on anything but,,,",
> The only option you'd have is to make a list like "build only on...".

No this is not true, one can use [!powerpc].

> Better write some lines on the top of debian/rules which checks if it is
> run on a blacklist of architectures (like powerpc), and use the $(error)
> make command to fail the build. This way you can document why you are
> failing the build, and make it trivial for powerpc porters to work on
> this package.

Please don't do that, besides you are missing the point completely. The
software builds perfectly on powerpc, it's just nobody can ever play it
with more than 3 frames per second, because NVidia (nor ATI) will give
you accelerated drivers for those graphics card for linux.

> As for overusing the buildds: The buildd maintainers will detect this
> after the first failure, and add the package to the NFU list.

NFU?

> I'm doing this change in svn now.

Again, please do not.

Thank you,
Gürkan

Nvidias statement as of 11/06/07 22:13 is:
I'm afraid there are currently no plans to support Linux on the PowerPC
architecture.
(If you want the full reply contact me)

Message #42 received at 432666@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@deb.at>

To: Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu>, 432666@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432666: sauerbraten: segfaults on powerpc

Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:20:06 +0100

* Gürkan Sengün <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu> [2007-12-18 09:27:03 CET]:
> > Please don't do that!
> >
> > There is no way in debian/control to express "build on anything but,,,",
> > The only option you'd have is to make a list like "build only on...".
> 
> No this is not true, one can use [!powerpc].

 You sure about that? I don't see a single package that has such a
syntax in the Architecture: field. Aren't you puzzling this with
Dependencies?

> > Better write some lines on the top of debian/rules which checks if it is
> > run on a blacklist of architectures (like powerpc), and use the $(error)
> > make command to fail the build. This way you can document why you are
> > failing the build, and make it trivial for powerpc porters to work on
> > this package.
> 
> Please don't do that, besides you are missing the point completely. The
> software builds perfectly on powerpc, it's just nobody can ever play it
> with more than 3 frames per second, because NVidia (nor ATI) will give
> you accelerated drivers for those graphics card for linux.

 It's not that my graphics card isn't accelerated, thanks for missing
the whole point of the problem. The issue is more complex, my perception
is more that sauerbraten uses some specific routines that the free
driver doesn't seem to cover and hand over to the graphics card - where
other 3d software like tremulous, nexuiz or warsow doesn't stick to
those routines and have no problem at all getting propper speed. So I
wouldn't blindly flame nvidia or ati for things others in the same area
are able to do right.

> > As for overusing the buildds: The buildd maintainers will detect this
> > after the first failure, and add the package to the NFU list.
> 
> NFU?

 Most propably Not-For-Us.

> > I'm doing this change in svn now.
> 
> Again, please do not.

 Right, doing a failed in debian/rules is the wrong approach - limiting
the arch list would be proper and straight forward and obvious and not
hiding it in some other area.

 So long,
Rhonda

Message #49 received at 432666-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bruno "Fuddl" Kleinert <fuddl@tauware.de>

To: 432666-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#432666: fixed in sauerbraten 0.0.20071227.dfsg-1

Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:57:41 +0000

Source: sauerbraten
Source-Version: 0.0.20071227.dfsg-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
sauerbraten, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

sauerbraten-dbg_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten-dbg_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
sauerbraten-server_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten-server_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.diff.gz
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.diff.gz
sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.dsc
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.dsc
sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/contrib/s/sauerbraten/sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 432666@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Bruno "Fuddl" Kleinert <fuddl@tauware.de> (supplier of updated sauerbraten package)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2008 18:55:17 +0100
Source: sauerbraten
Binary: sauerbraten sauerbraten-dbg sauerbraten-server
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.0.20071227.dfsg-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Bruno "Fuddl" Kleinert <fuddl@tauware.de>
Description: 
 sauerbraten - 3D first-person game engine
 sauerbraten-dbg - Debug symbols for the Sauerbraten game engine
 sauerbraten-server - Standalone server for the Sauerbraten game
Closes: 432666 440246 443658
Changes: 
 sauerbraten (0.0.20071227.dfsg-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Bruno "Fuddl" Kleinert ]
   * New upstream release
   * Update to Standards version 3.7.3.0. No changes necessary
   * Build debug package sauerbraten-dbg
   * Updated README.Debian
     * Document removal of some precompiled/header files in the engine's
       sources
     * Describe in README.Debian how to generate a backtrace if sauerbraten
       crashes
   * Fix format of NEWS.Debian. Found by lintian
   * Use a versioned dependency on sauerbraten-data to avoid incompatible
     installations of the engine and game-data package (Closes: #440246)
   * Switch from dpatch to quilt
   * Install PNG desktop icon in proper location
   * Update my email address
   * Patch Makefile to support building binaries with debug symbols
     (Closes: #443658)
 .
   [ Marco Rodrigues ]
   * Add Homepage field in the control file.
 .
   [ Reinhard Tartler ]
   * disable powerpc builds in debian/rules (Closes: #432666)
Files: 
 21c0807fe75633ca76138cc0f2fbd7b9 1041 contrib/games optional sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.dsc
 3d8f1fe3f1897cb9871df87adc684cca 470034 contrib/games optional sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
 7a046cca5368a88bd8ffdbcbce766569 7483 contrib/games optional sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1.diff.gz
 530bb1c0dcb3fe9a4d41f279dc0249ae 501822 contrib/games optional sauerbraten_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
 b8faa1469ea84ad6d93fdad53f74dac3 1214124 contrib/games extra sauerbraten-dbg_0.0.20071227.dfsg-1_i386.deb
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