Debian Bug report logs - #432350
New upstream version 3.3.1.1

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jean Pierre LeJacq <jplejacq@quoininc.com>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: eclipse: upgrade to new stable release 3.3

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:00:34 -0400

Package: eclipse
Severity: wishlist


The eclipse project has release the new stable release 3.3. This
includes many important fixes and new functionality.

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Message #10 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "William Lima" <wlima.amadeus@gmail.com>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Eclipse 3.3

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:28:35 -0300

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Hi,

I am working on Eclipse 3.3 package for Ubuntu Gutsy, is there any effort in
Debian?

Thanks,
William Lima

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Message #15 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Koch <konqueror@gmx.de>

To: William Lima <wlima.amadeus@gmail.com>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: Eclipse 3.3

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:29:51 +0200

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:28:35AM -0300, William Lima wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am working on Eclipse 3.3 package for Ubuntu Gutsy, is there any effort in
> Debian?

We currently have am orig tarball and sort out the reverse dependecies
we need. When this his Debian. We will sync/merge it to Ubuntu. If you
want to help, please help to get it into Debian. This way we dont
ducplicate work.


Cheers,
Michael
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Message #20 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andreas Niss <info@andreasniss.de>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Eclipse 3.3

Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:32:40 +0200

as of Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460194 Eclipse 3.2 
isn't working any longer for my!
I rellay need Eclipse 3.3. Is there any chance to see 3.3 in unstable in 
the near future?

Many thanks
Andreas

Message #25 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mohammad Derakhshani <zekr.debian@gmail.com>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: libswt3.3-gtk

Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:03:38 -0500

Hello,

Thank you for your work on packaging eclipse 3.3.
Is there any possibility that we see libswt3.3-gtk-java and
libswt3.3-gtk-jni in near future in Ubuntu Gutsy and Debian?

Best

Message #32 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: eclipse: New upstream version 3.3.1.1

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:12:10 +0100

Hi,

what's the status of this? Anything that can be done to help?

Marcus

Message #37 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Koch <konqueror@gmx.de>

To: Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: eclipse: New upstream version 3.3.1.1

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:57:56 +0100

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:12:10AM +0100, Marcus Better wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> what's the status of this? Anything that can be done to help?

I'm on this. It basicallz builds but needs some testing to make
everything working properly. I will upload that to experimental soon.

In parallel I started on looking into 3.4 branch to be able to have that
in Debian shortly after it got released from upstream.


Cheers,
Michael

Message #42 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>

To: Michael Koch <konqueror@gmx.de>

Cc: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: eclipse: New upstream version 3.3.1.1

Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:12:28 +0100

Michael Koch wrote:
> I'm on this. It basicallz builds but needs some testing to make
> everything working properly. I will upload that to experimental soon.

Great, I'll start testing it as soon as it's uploaded.

Marcus

Message #49 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Roland Gruber <post@rolandgruber.de>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Update

Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:35:58 +0200

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Hi,

are there any news about packaging 3.3?


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Message #54 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sumit Madan <maestro_4@freenet.de>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Eclipse 3.3

Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:09:52 +0200

Hi, what's the status of eclipse package?

Regards, Sumit

Message #59 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Tom Parker" <palfrey@tevp.net>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: 3.4 now out

Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:11:08 +0100

Eclipse 3.4 has now been released. Any progress on this?

Tom Parker

Message #64 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Sandro Tosi" <morph@debian.org>

To: eclipse@packages.debian.org, "Michael Koch" <konqueror@gmx.de>

Cc: 432350@bugs.debian.org, 473979@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Status of Eclipse 3.4

Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:26:28 +0200

Hello,
I'd like to know what's the status of Eclipse, in particular for 3.4
version, in Debian.

Europa was released 1 year ago, while Ganymede at June 2008 but Debian
still ships only 3.2.

I saw from SVN weblog[1] some work was done for 3.4, but I see no
upload after that: do you have a version to test? is an upload to
experimental possible, so that we can start use the new version and
give feedback?

Thanks in advance,
Sandro

[1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/eclipse/?op=log&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1

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Message #69 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Status of Eclipse 3.4

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:21:37 +0100 (CET)

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 Sandro Tosi wrote:

> I'd like to know what's the status of Eclipse, in particular for 3.4
> version, in Debian.

I like to know this as well.

> I saw from SVN weblog[1] some work was done for 3.4, but I see no
> upload after that: do you have a version to test? is an upload to
> experimental possible, so that we can start use the new version and
> give feedback?

I'm also very keen on feedback.  I have to pass a lesson which is
based on Eclipse 3.4 on behalf of my employer in the beginning of
December.  So I have three options:

  1. Test a (possibly inofficial) Debian package of 3.4 and perhaps
     try to work a little bit on it (but I have nearly zero Java and
     Eclipse knowledge - currently)
  2. Try to install directly from upstream (which is not helpful for
     Debian)
  3. Use a Win Laptop with Eclipse 3.4 provided by my employer (uhm ...)

I'd prefer option 1 - but what I really need is some information whether
this is a real option.

Kind regards

         Andreas.

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Message #74 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tibor Sekelj <ghostwriter78@gmx.at>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: eclipse 3.4

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:57:20 +0700

Hi Everybody,

im using Ubuntu 8.10 (newest release) and its community packages  
contain eclipse 3.2

Actually the newest version is 3.4 and tools like CDT 5.0.1 (c++ IDE)  
require it.

now there has since two years not been any package update for eclipse  
on the ubuntu community packages.

Some people there told me to report here as they say you are  
maintaining those packages in debian and they are used then in ubuntu.

Could you please update the eclipse to 3.4?

kind regards
Tibor

Message #79 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Dominic Evans" <oldmanuk@gmail.com>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Fedora 10

Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:29:02 +0000

Fedora 10 has Eclipse 3.4 included
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList).

Debian/Ubuntu need to catch up on this.

What are the issues preventing .deb packages being built?

Message #84 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Damien Raude-Morvan" <drazzib@drazzib.com>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Current status on 3.4 debian package ?

Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:40:40 +0100

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Hi,

I'm looking forward to have Eclipse 3.4 in Debian (too late for Lenny, but 
maybe we could backport it later).

AFAIK, last commit in SVN [0] on this package was in 09/2008 and haven't yet 
found a debian/TODO file.

What's current status on this package ?
Which dependency missing ?
Any remaining item ? 

[0] svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/trunk/eclipse
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Message #89 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>

To: Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@gmail.com>

Cc: Debian Java Maintainers <pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Packaging eclipse 3.4.1 for debian/ubuntu

Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:33:46 +0100 (CET)

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Pantelis Koukousoulas wrote:

> I 'm interested to (help) package eclipse 3.4.1 for debian / ubuntu.

Great.

> This is quite a big task so I 'd like as much help as I can get
> if this is to succeed. The plan is to start by copying as much as
> possible from what Fedora and Gentoo have already done
> plus whatever debian/ubuntu work is already there and improving upon those.
>
> Would you be willing to help?

I have to admit that I'm very frustrated about the responsibility of the
maintainer, namely the Debian Java Team to bug #432350 and the failure to
even send a single response to the bug report.  The consequence that I
have to draw from this fact is that this team either does not have a single
member which is working on Eclipse at all.

If this assumtion is true - I hope at least this can be confirmed by any
member of the team, if not I have to assume that there is no such team at
all - I think we should add more staff to the team.  So my first action
now was to subscribe to the list.  I never felt competent to do so in the
past because ma Java knowledge is basically zero - but as I said, I have
some packaging experience and if there are some testers I might be helpful.

I also asked to add myself to the alioth project to be able to commit to
the development svn.

I would advise anybody who really intends to be helpful to follow these
two steps.

For the concrete packaging I would at first suggest to clean up the source
packaging.  Currently the source tarball contains three zip archives from
completely separate upstream projects.  IMHO this is no optimal packaging
strategy and I would start by packaging icu4j and jsch separately and
once this is done create a proper get-upstream-source target for debian/rules
to enable newcomers to drop in by providing a defined state of work.

In case there is some reason to merge separate upstream projects in one
source tarball which might have been introduced by Michael Koch (icu4) and
Vladimir Lapacek (jsch) I would like to hear these reasons and whether they
are valid until today (=with the new Eclipse version).

Kind regards

         Andreas.

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Message #94 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>

To: Debian Java maintainers <pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Cc: Debian Java Liste <debian-java@lists.debian.org>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: ITP: libicu4j-java -- Library for unicode support and internalisation (fwd)

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:22:56 +0100 (CET)

Hi,

as I announced formerly [1] I intent to push the obviousely completely
stalled maintenance of eclipse package.  (I wrote "obviosely" because nobody
of the people mentioned in the changelog issued the slightest sign of interest.)
There was some agreement that the upstream source package should not include
any separate projects and thus I intend to upload libicu4j-java.  This mail
is just to inform you about the ITP.

Kind regards

          Andreas.

[1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-java-maintainers/2008-December/018733.html

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:45:43 +0100
From: Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: libicu4j-java -- Library for unicode support and internalisation

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>


* Package name    : libicu4j-java
  Version         : 3.8.1
  Upstream Author : IBM and contributors
* URL             : http://www.icu-project.org/
* License         : ICU4J license - ICU4J 1.8.1 and later
   Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
   a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
   "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
   without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
   distribute, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons
   to whom the Software is furnished to do so, provided that the above
   copyright notice(s) and this permission notice appear in all copies of
   the Software and that both the above copyright notice(s) and this
   permission notice appear in supporting documentation.
  Programming Lang: C, C++, Java
  Description     : Library for unicode support and internalisation
 ICU is a mature, widely used set of C/C++ and Java libraries for
 Unicode support, software internationalization and globalization
 (i18n/g11n). It grew out of the JDK 1.1 internationalization APIs, which
 the ICU team contributed, and the project continues to be developed
 for the most advanced Unicode/i18n support. ICU is widely portable and
 gives applications the same results on all platforms and between C/C++
 and Java software.

Remark: This software is currently provided inside the source package
 of eclipse.  There is no clear reason why it is tied into another packages
 upstream version.  Moreover there is a seperate package maintained in
 Ubuntu and thus it is simple to "steal" this package.  The packaging
 stuff is available in SVN via

Vcs-Svn: svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/trunk/icu4j
Vcs-Browser: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/icu4j/?rev=0&sc=0

Kind regards

         Andreas.

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Message #99 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org, Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de>

Subject: Progress ?

Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:19:07 +0900

Hi,

Are you working on eclipse4.4 package now ?  I'm looking into
installing a package right now and wondering if I could help.

regards,
	junichi
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Message #104 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ilya <conscious@mail.ru>

To: pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org

Cc: Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: Progress ?

Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:34:49 +0300

On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:19:07 +0900
Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp> wrote:

> Are you working on eclipse4.4 package now ?  I'm looking into
> installing a package right now and wondering if I could help.

Yes, see http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-java-maintainers/2008-December/018863.html

Message #109 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Anton Mitterer <christoph.anton.mitterer@physik.uni-muenchen.de>

To: 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: New upstream version 3.3.1.1

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:36:16 +0200

Hi.

Is anything happening here?
It's quite embarrassing for Debian to only have such an outdated  
version of Eclipse (which is nearly identical to not having it at  
all), or no or only very old versions of the major plugins.

Chris.

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Message #114 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@gmail.com>

To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <christoph.anton.mitterer@physik.uni-muenchen.de>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: New upstream version 3.3.1.1

Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:14:30 +0300

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer
<christoph.anton.mitterer@physik.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
...
> It's quite embarrassing for Debian to only have such an outdated version of
> Eclipse (which is nearly identical to not having it at all), or no or only
> very old versions of the major plugins.

Heh, distributions can't feel embarrassment, only people can :P

If *you* feel embarrassed, it is pretty easy to relieve yourself from
this feeling.
Just devote a week (or two) from your life and do what's left to be done :)

As long as nobody has the free time / skills / persistence required
for a decent package
(eclipse is not trivial) there won't be one, it is that simple.

If you decide to help and you are not a debian developer, Andreas
Tille can do the
sponsoring for you and there are a few more resources and help available too.

HTH

Message #119 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tobias Frost <tobi@coldtobi.de>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <432350@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: eclipse: Starting point

Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:14:39 +0200

Package: eclipse
Version: 3.2.2-6.1
Severity: normal




Wouldn't your package from Dec 2008 far better than the current "solution". I think so.
So, please, upload at least that one to experimental. 

(You're right, distributions cannot have feelings. But it is still a shame for debian.)


BTW: One thing I don't get is, why that package has that complecity. The only reason in mind is, that it won't work "out of box" with a free java compiler.
If thats the problem, common, move it to non-free. Most users won't care. The ones that care can stick to the two years (!) old version.




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Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages eclipse depends on:
ii  eclipse-jdt                   3.2.2-6.1  Java Development Tools plug-ins fo
ii  eclipse-pde                   3.2.2-6.1  Plug-in Development Environment to
ii  eclipse-source                3.2.2-6.1  Eclipse source code plug-ins
ii  libc6                         2.9-10     GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libglib2.0-0                  2.20.1-2   The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0                   2.16.1-2   The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  zenity                        2.24.1-1   Display graphical dialog boxes fro

Versions of packages eclipse recommends:
pn  eclipse-gcj                   <none>     (no description available)

eclipse suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

Message #124 received at 432350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@gmail.com>

To: Tobias Frost <tobi@coldtobi.de>, 432350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#432350: eclipse: Starting point

Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:30:21 +0300

> Wouldn't your package from Dec 2008 far better than the current "solution". I think so.
> So, please, upload at least that one to experimental.

I 'm sorry but this is just not possible. We cannot pollute debian
with crap. My package is (at least was) working
and is appropriate for what it was meant to be: a proof of concept and
a demonstration of where the problems
are.

To become uploadable, there are certain things that need to be done to
comply with debian policy. As long
as those things are not completed, the package would be rejected even
if I uploaded it ;)

> BTW: One thing I don't get is, why that package has that complecity. The only reason in mind is, that it won't work "out of box" with a free java compiler.
> If thats the problem, common, move it to non-free. Most users won't care. The ones that care can stick to the two years (!) old version.

My package works fine with openjdk so main vs non-free is not a
problem. Some of the problems are:

1) Getting eclipse to build from source in a debian setting from the
command-line and install it in a way
    that also allows eclipse's P2 system to work. (A large part of the
complexity is devoted to this).

2) Use debian-packaged versions for the jar dependencies that are also
eclipse (OSGi) compliant.
    (My package doesn't solve that).

and the various other problems you see in the launchpad bugtracker of
the eclipse-debian project.

You are welcome to solve these with less complexity. If you manage to
do this, the nice folks in the
linux-distros project in upstream eclipse.org will more than welcome
your contributions :)

Cheers,
Pantelis

Message #129 received at 432350-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net>

To: 432350-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: eclipse 3.4.1/experimental.

Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:08:48 +0200

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Hi

Closing this since 3.4.1 is in experimental.

~Niels
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