Debian Bug report logs - #425426
allow creation of user accounts with duplicate uid

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:51:18 +0200

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Package: adduser
Version: 3.102
Severity: wishlist
Hi,
a command line switch like -o in useradd would be nice.
Kind regards
Nico


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Message #10 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Stephen Gran <sgran@debian.org>

To: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>, 425426@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Adduser-devel] Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:22:12 +0100

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This one time, at band camp, Nico Golde said:
> Hi,
> a command line switch like -o in useradd would be nice.

Why do you want this?  It might be possible to do, but it means a fair
amount of bending over backwards to force tools to do the wrong thing,
and I'm really not inclined to do that unless there is a compelling
reason.
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Message #15 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>

To: Stephen Gran <sgran@debian.org>

Cc: 425426@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Adduser-devel] Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 19:32:25 +0200

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Hi,
* Stephen Gran <sgran@debian.org> [2007-05-21 19:24]:
> This one time, at band camp, Nico Golde said:
> > Hi,
> > a command line switch like -o in useradd would be nice.
> 
> Why do you want this?  It might be possible to do, but it means a fair
> amount of bending over backwards to force tools to do the wrong thing,
> and I'm really not inclined to do that unless there is a compelling
> reason.

Why not? If you want to have a second root user without 
password, homedirectory and login shell you need it. And I 
mean technically there is no problem with that. In some 
cases you can't use root for a specific task and you don't 
want to use suid 0 binaries cause they might be exploited by 
other users. And I mean useradd enables this, why not then?
Kind regards
Nico
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Message #20 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joerg Hoh <joerg@joerghoh.de>

To: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>, 425426@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#425426: [Adduser-devel] Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:48:53 +0200

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Hi

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:32:25PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> 
> Why not? If you want to have a second root user without 
> password, homedirectory and login shell you need it. 

Why not use sudo?

> And I 
> mean technically there is no problem with that. In some 
> cases you can't use root for a specific task and you don't 
> want to use suid 0 binaries cause they might be exploited by 
> other users. And I mean useradd enables this, why not then?

Then you just need useradd. 

Joerg
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Message #25 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>

To: Joerg Hoh <joerg@joerghoh.de>

Cc: 425426@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#425426: [Adduser-devel] Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 01:48:12 +0200

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Hi,
* Joerg Hoh <joerg@joerghoh.de> [2007-05-22 01:23]:
> On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:32:25PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> > 
> > Why not? If you want to have a second root user without 
> > password, homedirectory and login shell you need it. 
> 
> Why not use sudo?

Cause I don't need it.

> > And I 
> > mean technically there is no problem with that. In some 
> > cases you can't use root for a specific task and you don't 
> > want to use suid 0 binaries cause they might be exploited by 
> > other users. And I mean useradd enables this, why not then?
> 
> Then you just need useradd. 

Then I can't use the features of adduser ;)
Kind regards
Nico
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Message #30 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Stephen Gran <sgran@debian.org>

To: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>, 425426@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Joerg Hoh <joerg@joerghoh.de>

Subject: Re: [Adduser-devel] Bug#425426: Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 00:59:33 +0100

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This one time, at band camp, Nico Golde said:
> Hi,
> * Joerg Hoh <joerg@joerghoh.de> [2007-05-22 01:23]:
> > On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:32:25PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why not? If you want to have a second root user without 
> > > password, homedirectory and login shell you need it. 
> > 
> > Why not use sudo?
> 
> Cause I don't need it.
> 
> > > And I 
> > > mean technically there is no problem with that. In some 
> > > cases you can't use root for a specific task and you don't 
> > > want to use suid 0 binaries cause they might be exploited by 
> > > other users. And I mean useradd enables this, why not then?
> > 
> > Then you just need useradd. 
> 
> Then I can't use the features of adduser ;)

adduser exists for two reasons: first, to provide a policy layer over
the normal tools like useradd, and second, to make it easier than those
tools oridnarily do to manage users.  Your request feels like it breaks
the first part, which is why we're not keen on doing it.
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Message #35 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: 425426@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:01:20 +0100

retitle #425426 allow creation of user accounts with duplicate uid
thanks

Message #42 received at 425426@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc Haber <mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de>

To: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>, 425426@bugs.debian.org, 425426-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:04:17 +0100

tags #425426 wontfix
thanks

Tagging this bug wontfix

Message #52 received at 425426-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Nico Golde <nion@debian.org>

To: 425426-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#425426: allow creation of user accounts with dublicate uid

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:13:40 +0100

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Let's actually close this, there are better ways to do that.

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