Debian Bug report logs - #424905
ITP: sdlmame -- A port of the popular MAME

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Edo Hikmahtiar" <firesand@gmail.com>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RFP: sdlmame -- SDLMAME is a port of the popular MAME™.

Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:33:08 +0700

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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

SDLMAME is a port of the popular MAME™. There are a few principles that
guide it's development: 1) run on Linux/Unix, Mac OS X, and other SDL
supported operating systems with as few changes as possible to the base
Win32 code. This means we can track changes faster than larger more
conventional ports such as MacMAME, and we also maintain what I call
"Firefox compatibilty" where learning a major app only needs to be done once
per application, and it then applies across many operating systems. If you
can use the command-line Win32 MAME, you already know how to use SDLMAME on
any platform you may encounter it on. 2) MAME developers are important. By
keeping quickly up to date, we make it easy for people on non-Windows
platforms to make and submit changes to the core MAME code, and we offer
native implementations of MAME's multi-window GUI debugger on both
Linux/Unix and Mac OS X.

source url : http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163

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Message #10 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Pipping <webmaster@hartwork.org>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RFP: sdlmame

Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:24:00 +0100

Ubuntu has a recent sdlmame package, see
http://wallyweek.altervista.org/

Message #15 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: <ludo@linux.nc>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RFP: sdlmame

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:06:36 +1100

Hi,

I have packed a SDLMAME version for Debian (Etch/Lenny) from up to date
sources.
(There is also an older Ubuntu package)

Available in a repository, all described here :
http://apt.ludomatic.fr/?hl=en 

Enjoy :) 

Message #20 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Philippe Coval <rzr@users.sf.net>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Cc: cesare.falco@gmail.com

Subject: debian : sdlmame

Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:39:13 +0200

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Hi,

Quoting :  http://bugs.debian.org/424905
> I have packed a SDLMAME version for Debian (Etch/Lenny) from up to date

great ! , if you're motivated to upload it to debian
 please retitle the bug to ITP 

Then double check you debian/* files 
 and try to merge what cesare flaco (cc:) did before
 (watch file, getorig etc)

Here are links to ubuntu works published in hardy :
  * http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/sdlmame

If it helps, I also connected this bug to ubuntu tracker
  * https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/135879

Also if time miss, just tell us, someone (like me) may do the final steps

FYI, I started to merge yours and ubuntu patches, and build a 0.124.3 debian package 
 fell free to reuse it again:

  * http://rzr.online.fr/q/mame

I'll make deeper tests	

Regards

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Message #25 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Zhao Difei" <difeiz@gmail.com>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RFP: sdlmame

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:01:49 +0800

Greetings,

> Hi,

> I have packed a SDLMAME version for Debian (Etch/Lenny) from up to date
> sources.
> (There is also an older Ubuntu package)

> Available in a repository, all described here :
> http://apt.ludomatic.fr/?hl=en

> Enjoy :)

I noticed sdlmame is already packaged, would anyone upload it so
sdlmame can be included in lenny to replace obsolete xmame?

Cheers,
Difei

Message #30 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Bruno Barrera C." <bruno@debian.org>

To: 424905-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Packaging .SDLMame

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:29:34 -0300

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As maintainer of Xmame, I'll be working on this package.

Thanks,
-- 
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I found myself within a forest dark,
For the straightforward pathway had been lost"

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Message #44 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Cc: rzr@users.sf.net, cesare.falco@gmail.com

Subject: SDLMAME Etch/Lenny 0.128

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:15:57 +1100

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Hi,

I have made deep changes on the new SDLMAME 0.128 package for Etch/Lenny
(and discontinued the Ubuntu version in favor of C. Falco package).

The Debian package is then freshly updated in my repository.
You can always consult the webpage http://apt.ludomatic.fr/?hl=en for
further informations.

Cheers,
ludomatic.fr

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Message #49 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: SDLMAME for Debian upload

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:04:37 +1100

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Sorry for re-post: Just want to add this package to the debian upload
process... so if a sponsor hear me :)

Cheers,
ludomatic.fr

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Message #54 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#424905: SDLMAME for Debian upload

Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:02:30 +1100

Hi,

SDLMAME (0.128 at the moment) files are available in the pool of my
repo http://apt.ludomatic.fr/pool/non-free/s/sdlmame/ :

sdlmame_0128-3etch1.diff.gz
sdlmame_0128-3etch1.dsc
sdlmame_0128-3etch1_i386.deb
sdlmame_0128-3lenny1.diff.gz
sdlmame_0128-3lenny1.dsc
sdlmame_0128-3lenny1_i386.deb
sdlmame_0128.orig.tar.gz

or visit http://apt.ludomatic.fr/

> Cheers,
> ludomatic.fr

Message #59 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andres Mejia <mcitadel@gmail.com>

To: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#424905: SDLMAME for Debian upload

Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:51:21 -0400

Hi Ludo,

Noticed in your posts you were asking to be sponsored. Have you tried contacting 
Bruno? He is a Debian developer and can upload your package.

In case you can't contact Bruno, you may also want to try sending a message to 
the Debian Games team at debian-devel-games@lists.debian.org. I'm sure somebody 
there will be willing to review and upload your package.

-- 
Regards,
Andres

Message #64 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: ludomatic@gmail.com

To: Andres Mejia <mcitadel@gmail.com>

Cc: <424905@bugs.debian.org>,

Subject: SDLMAME for Debian upload

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:05:54 +1100 (NCT)

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Hi Andres,

I'll contact Bruno and/or debian-devel-games list. Thanks a lot for your message!


Regards,
Ludovic Lechapt

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Message #69 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jan Hauke Rahm <jhr@debian.org>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org, ludomatic@gmail.com

Cc: Debian BTS Control <control@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Status of ITP for sdlmame

Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:36:22 +0100

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owner 424905 ludomatic@gmail.com
thanks

Hi Ludovic,

I'm wondering, what's the status of this ITP? Bruno has retired and is
not active anymore. Are you still working on this issue?

Hauke
on behalf of Debian QA/MIA

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Message #76 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

To: Jan Hauke Rahm <jhr@debian.org>, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Debian BTS Control <control@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#424905: Status of ITP for sdlmame

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:09:29 +1100

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Hi,

Sorry for the "pause" in this ITP because I actually
try to figure how to build oldstable/stable/unstable
debs with pbuilder for amd64/arm with QEmu on
my Lenny i386. I found some docs but most outdated
or QEmu crashes. I would like to finish this process
and automate this as much as possible before doing
any further improvements on actual package. In the
meanwhile the package is still available on my repo.

Should I close this ITP now or ask someone else
to view my actual package ?

Thanks for your time.


Regards,
Ludovic Lechapt

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Message #81 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jan Hauke Rahm <jhr@debian.org>

To: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#424905: Status of ITP for sdlmame

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:49:05 +0100

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On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:09:29PM +1100, Ludo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry for the "pause" in this ITP because I actually
> try to figure how to build oldstable/stable/unstable
> debs with pbuilder for amd64/arm with QEmu on
> my Lenny i386. I found some docs but most outdated
> or QEmu crashes. I would like to finish this process
> and automate this as much as possible before doing
> any further improvements on actual package. In the
> meanwhile the package is still available on my repo.

Please seek some help with this; it's not always an easy task. Try the
mailing list debian-mentors@lists.debian.org to get help.

> Should I close this ITP now or ask someone else
> to view my actual package ?

Please close your ITP only in the changelog of the first upload. As soon
as you are ready ask for a sponsor on debian-mentors again.

> Thanks for your time.

Thanks for your contribution to Debian!

Hauke

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Message #86 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Wei Mingzhi <whistler_wmz@users.sf.net>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITP: sdlmame -- A port of the popular MAME

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 04:14:13 +0000

maybe this should be retitled into just "mame - Multiple Arcade
Machine Emulator" or something as the SDL port is now included with
the official version.

Message #91 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: <emmanuel@libera.cc>

To: <424905@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: ITP: sdlmame -- A port of the popular MAME

Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:03:19 +0200

Some update on this bug. I contacted Ludovic and we agreed to try the push
the packet forward together.
Right now Ludovic has packaged 0.134 which is available on his repository.
Work is going on to create a package for 0.138, which we will try to push
in Debian.
Since 0.136 sdlmame is actually part of the official mame source
distribution, which should increase support of the sdl port in Mame.
We plan use repository to maintain Mame as well as MESS in a collaborative
way.

Message #96 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@sindominio.net>

To: ludomatic@gmail.com, emmanuel@libera.cc

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:42:39 +0100

Hi Ludo and Emmanuel!

I must have been living in a cave, because I just learned about sdlmame,
the merge into mame itself and the efforts to add this to the official
Debian repositories.

In the ITP bug, I see there's been some confusion in the process to make
your packages part of Debian officially, partly due to Bruno stating he
would be in charge and then nothing happening for years.

It seems both of you have agreed to work together to bring MAME to
Debian. Is there any update on the status?

I'm a Debian Developer and am willing to help you finish whatever is
missing before you can do your first upload. I also offer my help if any
of you want to become a DD or a Debian Maintainer.

Thanks for all your work!
Jordi
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Message #101 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

To: Jordi Mallach <jordi@sindominio.net>

Cc: ludomatic@gmail.com, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 18:06:06 +0100

 > I'm a Debian Developer and am willing to help you finish whatever is
> missing before you can do your first upload. I also offer my help if any
> of you want to become a DD or a Debian Maintainer.

Nice to hear from a prospective uploader :)

Ludo did most of the packaging work, I commited some fix for powerpc.

Right now the two packages ( mame and mame-tools) are  lintian clean 
exepct for debian-helper overrides warning and the packaging code is 
available from download from:
http://indefero.shaperstudio.com/p/mamedeb/

This will build a mame v 0.139 binary ( althoug upstream has just 
released 0.140 )

We have also a mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/mamedeb

A feedback on the packaging is more than welcome !

Manu

Message #106 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

Cc: ludomatic@gmail.com, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:28:53 +0100

Hi!

On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:06:06PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> Ludo did most of the packaging work, I commited some fix for powerpc.
> 
> Right now the two packages ( mame and mame-tools) are  lintian clean
> exepct for debian-helper overrides warning and the packaging code is
> available from download from:
> http://indefero.shaperstudio.com/p/mamedeb/
> 
> This will build a mame v 0.139 binary ( althoug upstream has just
> released 0.140 )
> 
> We have also a mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/mamedeb

Ok. My first suggestion is to maybe move all of this to Alioth and upload
the packages to mentors.debian.net. If you don't have Alioth accounts, you
should apply for one now.

In the bug report, others have suggested hosting mame in the games
packaging team repository. I think it's a good idea, but it's your call. I
don't think the Alioth admins are really happy about creating new groups
for just one app, and MAME really fits well in the games repo, while that
does not mean you'll lose control over your package.

As for the mailing list, you might want to just use the pkg-games-devel
list.

> A feedback on the packaging is more than welcome !

This is very good!

Ludo: I don't know where all the packaging history went. If you've been
maintaining mame for years, I don't see why you should be getting rid of
your entire debian/changelog. There's nothing bad in doing that, it just
doesn't show all the previous work behind the package.

You should probably update the package to the newest Standards-Version. I
also suggest you convert it to DpkgSource v3, as you're using quilt
anyway. If you need help with this, just say!

http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0

Nitpicks in the control file:

Extra newline between source package and mame binary package.

Description:

- "... is a hardware emulator..."
- This package provides the MAME binary..."
- Remove the authorship information. That will be available in the
  copyright file.
- No space between a word and :
  This package provides tools to be used with MAME:

In the copyright file, you refer to BSD, GPL and LGPL, but no links to
common-licenses.

dhdcd.c and others don't have an explicit copyright notice in the header,
but a pointer to MAME's website. You should probably tell upstream about
this.

Why do you put the .desktop and .xpm file in a deep dir inside the debian
dir? Why not move them to debian/, and reference those files in
mame.install (like you do, but using the longest path ever!)

A suggestion: on your sed constructs, use another separator and avoid
escaping the slashes:

sed -i 's%\(   comments\).*%\1;/var/games/mame/comments%' $INIFILE

You should not run find -exec chmod on every upgrade. If there are a lot
of files in that dir, installation could take ages.

Many manual pages need a bit more work ("etc." all over the place!)
Finally, as you need to repack the .zip, why not do a .tar.bz2?

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Message #111 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

To: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org, mamedeb@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:15:38 +1100

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Hi,

Back to business after holidays.
Thanks a lot Jordi, the MAME package is evolving faster with updates
from Emmunuel and Félix. The help of a Debian developer to finalize
and (I hope) upload it is greatly appreciated!

About Alioth, as said by Emmunuel, we were not allowed to create a
project because none of us are Debian developer/maintainer so we
hosted ourselves the "mamedeb" project. In my opinion, there is no
problem to switch from our VCS (Git) to Alioth if we can keep the
history of our previous commits.

About debian/changelog, I would really like to keep a log of all the
initial work and bugfixes but I was not sure if I can put them as-is.

About the "longest path ever" :) I have put the files into subfolders in
order to separate "media" and link files from the "core" debian files.
There are no other reason, so I'll put them on the debian folder.

Sed separator replacement is on the way, ugly slashes escaping
is replaced by "_" in most of the commands:
sed -i 's_[ +]comments_ /var/games/mame/comments;comments_' $INIFILE

MAN pages are completed now: ldresample, mame-regrep, mame-split,
mame-src2html, mame-srcclean, unidasm and mame.

About the "chmod o+rw" on the postinst: it is here to allow end-user
to move/delete/save ROMs or ini files in this folder. In fact it is not
necessary because end user will have it's own ini and ROM path so
I'll remove it.

Thanks a lot.

--
Ludo.



On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:06:06PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> > Ludo did most of the packaging work, I commited some fix for powerpc.
> >
> > Right now the two packages ( mame and mame-tools) are  lintian clean
> > exepct for debian-helper overrides warning and the packaging code is
> > available from download from:
> > http://indefero.shaperstudio.com/p/mamedeb/
> >
> > This will build a mame v 0.139 binary ( althoug upstream has just
> > released 0.140 )
> >
> > We have also a mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/mamedeb
>
> Ok. My first suggestion is to maybe move all of this to Alioth and upload
> the packages to mentors.debian.net. If you don't have Alioth accounts, you
> should apply for one now.
>
> In the bug report, others have suggested hosting mame in the games
> packaging team repository. I think it's a good idea, but it's your call. I
> don't think the Alioth admins are really happy about creating new groups
> for just one app, and MAME really fits well in the games repo, while that
> does not mean you'll lose control over your package.
>
> As for the mailing list, you might want to just use the pkg-games-devel
> list.
>
> > A feedback on the packaging is more than welcome !
>
> This is very good!
>
> Ludo: I don't know where all the packaging history went. If you've been
> maintaining mame for years, I don't see why you should be getting rid of
> your entire debian/changelog. There's nothing bad in doing that, it just
> doesn't show all the previous work behind the package.
>
> You should probably update the package to the newest Standards-Version. I
> also suggest you convert it to DpkgSource v3, as you're using quilt
> anyway. If you need help with this, just say!
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0
>
> Nitpicks in the control file:
>
> Extra newline between source package and mame binary package.
>
> Description:
>
> - "... is a hardware emulator..."
> - This package provides the MAME binary..."
> - Remove the authorship information. That will be available in the
>  copyright file.
> - No space between a word and :
>  This package provides tools to be used with MAME:
>
> In the copyright file, you refer to BSD, GPL and LGPL, but no links to
> common-licenses.
>
> dhdcd.c and others don't have an explicit copyright notice in the header,
> but a pointer to MAME's website. You should probably tell upstream about
> this.
>
> Why do you put the .desktop and .xpm file in a deep dir inside the debian
> dir? Why not move them to debian/, and reference those files in
> mame.install (like you do, but using the longest path ever!)
>
> A suggestion: on your sed constructs, use another separator and avoid
> escaping the slashes:
>
> sed -i 's%\(   comments\).*%\1;/var/games/mame/comments%' $INIFILE
>
> You should not run find -exec chmod on every upgrade. If there are a lot
> of files in that dir, installation could take ages.
>
> Many manual pages need a bit more work ("etc." all over the place!)
> Finally, as you need to repack the .zip, why not do a .tar.bz2?
>
> --
> Jordi Mallach Pérez  --  Debian developer     http://www.debian.org/
> jordi@sindominio.net     jordi@debian.org     http://www.sindominio.net/
> GnuPG public key information available at http://oskuro.net/
>

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Message #116 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org, mamedeb@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 01:14:58 +0100

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Hi!

Sorry, I've been terribly swamped with different stuff but I still haven't
forgotten!

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:15:38AM +1100, Ludo wrote:
> Back to business after holidays.
> Thanks a lot Jordi, the MAME package is evolving faster with updates
> from Emmunuel and Félix. The help of a Debian developer to finalize
> and (I hope) upload it is greatly appreciated!

I really want to help, and would like to get some package up in the NEW
queue in the following weeks. In mid january I'll be totally swamped again
and won't be able to do much until after FOSDEM.

> About Alioth, as said by Emmunuel, we were not allowed to create a
> project because none of us are Debian developer/maintainer so we
> hosted ourselves the "mamedeb" project. In my opinion, there is no
> problem to switch from our VCS (Git) to Alioth if we can keep the
> history of our previous commits.

I have little experience with Git, but I guess it'll be easy enough to
import the current history.

If you think having a dedicated MAME group/project is important, I can ask
for one. If you think you can live with the Debian Games repository,
that's ok also. I'll ask for a pkg-mame project after sending this email,
in the meantime.

> About debian/changelog, I would really like to keep a log of all the
> initial work and bugfixes but I was not sure if I can put them as-is.

Sure, I'm sure you can. If you want to describe anything specific of the
packaging (other than the history), README.source or even copyright might
be good places. Depends on the content.

> About the "longest path ever" :) I have put the files into subfolders in
> order to separate "media" and link files from the "core" debian files.
> There are no other reason, so I'll put them on the debian folder.

Thanks!

> Sed separator replacement is on the way, ugly slashes escaping
> is replaced by "_" in most of the commands:
> sed -i 's_[ +]comments_ /var/games/mame/comments;comments_' $INIFILE

Ok. It's not uncommon to find _ in paths, but it'll work in the meanwhile.
I normally use !, which is pretty hard to find in a filename.

> MAN pages are completed now: ldresample, mame-regrep, mame-split,
> mame-src2html, mame-srcclean, unidasm and mame.

You rock!

> About the "chmod o+rw" on the postinst: it is here to allow end-user
> to move/delete/save ROMs or ini files in this folder. In fact it is not
> necessary because end user will have it's own ini and ROM path so
> I'll remove it.

Good!

So, what's the current status? Come on, I need to build a new mame box for
our house in the mountain! :P

Jordi
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Message #121 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

To: mamedeb@googlegroups.com

Cc: jordi@debian.org, Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:33:27 +0100

Hello !
> If you think having a dedicated MAME group/project is important, I
> can ask for one. If you think you can live with the Debian Games
> repository, that's ok also. I'll ask for a pkg-mame project after
> sending this email, in the meantime.

I wrote one month ago to the alioth admins to request an admission in
Debian Games but got no reply. So pkg-game is great in the mean-time.
I guess we have to show some (working, preferably ) code to get
admitted in the team.

> So, what's the current status? Come on, I need to build a new mame
> box for our house in the mountain! :P

We were discussing the topic yesterday with Ludo ( well not the topic
of your house on the mountain but the mame package :)

We have three issues still open on our bug tracker
(http://indefero.shaperstudio.com/p/mamedeb/issues/) and we thought we
would send the package to you or mentors.debian.net once they get
resolved. Your help / feedback is welcomed on those !

Message #126 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

Cc: mamedeb@googlegroups.com, Ludo <ludomatic@gmail.com>, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:06:21 +0100

Hi!

Great to hear from you! Let's get this done (ie, let's discuss what's
missing):

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 05:33:27PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> I wrote one month ago to the alioth admins to request an admission in
> Debian Games but got no reply. So pkg-game is great in the mean-time.
> I guess we have to show some (working, preferably ) code to get
> admitted in the team.

Ok. In any case, this isn't a blocker. The package can live outside
alioth for it's initial upload if necessary, and we can move it in as soon
a suitable group is created.

> We have three issues still open on our bug tracker
> (http://indefero.shaperstudio.com/p/mamedeb/issues/) and we thought we
> would send the package to you or mentors.debian.net once they get
> resolved. Your help / feedback is welcomed on those !

I see.

11. Comment out Mame rom downloading or move it in a separate package

I think this is release critical. My opinion is:

 - move this stuff to mame-roms-free (if free means libre; if the licences
   are “free beer”, then I'd go for mame-roms-nonfree or just mame-roms)
 - get rid of debconf entirely, if you install the mame roms package, you
   will not get any kind of questions whether the files should be
   downloaded or not. The postinst will always try to do it. The package
   description will warn about this. (flashplugin-nonfree is an example of
   a package that does this).
 - add a Suggests: mame-roms-free to the mame package.

I think this is the easiest and cleanest way of doing it.

We should think if mame-roms-* should be in a separate source package, or
inside mame's. The latter would make the mame-roms get installed every
time there's a new mame version, while it's highly improbable the free
roms will ever change again. I think it should be a separate source
package, but that's up to you.

12. dpkg-shlibdeps sends warning

This isn't critical at all. Using --as-needed is generally a good idea,
unless it breaks things. I don't think it would break anything, but in any
case, we can go ahead without this "fix" and add it in the future, if
wanted. It's probably a trivial fix anyway.

9. Review what is needed to be sent upstream ( and send it )

This isn't release critical either. Of course, we should be doing it ASAP,
but it doesn't block the upload in any way.

I'm more than happy to sponsor the first upload!

Jordi
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Message #131 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

To: mamedeb@googlegroups.com

Cc: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:21:51 +0100

Hello Jordi

Some update about the status of the package.

> 11. Comment out Mame rom downloading or move it in a separate package
>
> I think this is release critical. My opinion is:
>
>   - move this stuff to mame-roms-free (if free means libre; if the licences
>     are “free beer”, then I'd go for mame-roms-nonfree or just mame-roms)
>   - get rid of debconf entirely, if you install the mame roms package, you
>     will not get any kind of questions whether the files should be
>     downloaded or not. The postinst will always try to do it. The package
>     description will warn about this. (flashplugin-nonfree is an example of
>     a package that does this).
>   - add a Suggests: mame-roms-free to the mame package.
>
> I think this is the easiest and cleanest way of doing it.

> We should think if mame-roms-* should be in a separate source package, or
> inside mame's. The latter would make the mame-roms get installed every
> time there's a new mame version, while it's highly improbable the free
> roms will ever change again. I think it should be a separate source
> package, but that's up to you.

I moved this a a different source package, which is not yet finished 
yet, but the mame pacakge itself is now fine. I have a look at how 
fedora packages mame, and they have also a separate rom package, 
containing one *single* rom.

> 12. dpkg-shlibdeps sends warning
>
> This isn't critical at all. Using --as-needed is generally a good idea,
> unless it breaks things. I don't think it would break anything, but in any
> case, we can go ahead without this "fix" and add it in the future, if
> wanted. It's probably a trivial fix anyway.

ok

> 9. Review what is needed to be sent upstream ( and send it )
>
> This isn't release critical either. Of course, we should be doing it ASAP,
> but it doesn't block the upload in any way.

I sent our mame pages to the sdlmame forums here
http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=66395#Post66395


> I'm more than happy to sponsor the first upload!
There is still room for improvement, but the package is quite usable 
now, so feel free to go ahead :) !

Manu

Message #136 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

Cc: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:52:07 +0100

On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:33:45PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> Would like to be added to our mamedeb mailing lists until we get
> approved on Alioth ?

Sure, I forgot to say yes before.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:21:51PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> Some update about the status of the package.
> 
> I moved this a a different source package, which is not yet finished
> yet, but the mame pacakge itself is now fine. I have a look at how
> fedora packages mame, and they have also a separate rom package,
> containing one *single* rom.

Excellent!

> I sent our mame pages to the sdlmame forums here
> http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=66395#Post66395

Ok, I saw this. Do you know if they have been merged upstream yet?

> There is still room for improvement, but the package is quite usable
> now, so feel free to go ahead :) !

Looking at it!

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Message #141 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>

Cc: ludomatic@gmail.com, 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Uploading MAME to Debian

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:53:26 +0100

Hi!

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:52:06PM +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> > There is still room for improvement, but the package is quite usable
> > now, so feel free to go ahead :) !
> Looking at it!

I've made a few changes to make lintian happy, but otherwise the package
looked very good. It's being uploaded as we speak!

I don't see if the split, src2html & other needless binaries were removed,
but it seems the upstream authors said they are only useful for the MAME
release managers. We might want to remove them in the next upload.

I have uploaded to experimental, as there are binary packages that would
conflict in unstable. We need to ask for a removal of xmame, if that was
the original plan.

Congrats for the hard work!

Jordi
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Message #148 received at 424905@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Manu Ka <emmanuel.k@subsole.org>

To: 424905@bugs.debian.org

Subject: xmame-x has been removed from unstable

Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:56:12 +0100

xmame and associated packages has been removed from unstable
see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612531

the newer mame package (
http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-games/mame.git;a=summary ) has virtual
packages for xmame-x, so a dist-upgrade should automatically bring it to
xmame-x users

Message #153 received at 424905-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>

To: 424905-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#424905: fixed in mame 0.141-1

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:53:59 +0000

Source: mame
Source-Version: 0.141-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
mame, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

mame-tools_0.141-1_amd64.deb
  to non-free/m/mame/mame-tools_0.141-1_amd64.deb
mame_0.141-1.debian.tar.gz
  to non-free/m/mame/mame_0.141-1.debian.tar.gz
mame_0.141-1.dsc
  to non-free/m/mame/mame_0.141-1.dsc
mame_0.141-1_amd64.deb
  to non-free/m/mame/mame_0.141-1_amd64.deb
mame_0.141.orig.tar.bz2
  to non-free/m/mame/mame_0.141.orig.tar.bz2
xmame-sdl_0.141-1_all.deb
  to non-free/m/mame/xmame-sdl_0.141-1_all.deb
xmame-tools_0.141-1_all.deb
  to non-free/m/mame/xmame-tools_0.141-1_all.deb
xmame-x_0.141-1_all.deb
  to non-free/m/mame/xmame-x_0.141-1_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 424905@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:29:51 +0100
Source: mame
Binary: mame mame-tools xmame-sdl xmame-svga xmame-x xmame-tools
Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 0.141-1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ludovic Lechapt <ludomatic@gmail.com>
Changed-By: Jordi Mallach <jordi@debian.org>
Description: 
 mame       - Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME)
 mame-tools - Tools for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME)
 xmame-sdl  - Transitional package for xmame-sdl
 xmame-svga - Transitional package for xmame-svga
 xmame-tools - Transitional package for mame-tools
 xmame-x    - Transitional package for xmame-x
Closes: 424905
Changes: 
 mame (0.141-1) experimental; urgency=low
 .
   [ Emmanuel Kasper ]
   * New upstream release
 .
   [ Jordi Mallach ]
   * Add DEP-3 header to rename-tools patch.
   * Override dh_auto_install to explicitly install whatsnew.txt as an
     upstream changelog.
   * Add missing escaping of minus signs in several manpages.
   * Upload to experimental, as this package should replace xmame.
   * Add myself to Uploaders.
 .
 mame (0.140-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream release
 .
 mame (0.139-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Built from sdlmame 0.135 package and inspired from xmame 0.106 package.
     Closes: #424905.
   * This package replaces sdlmame as "there are no longer separate programs
     called SDLMAME or SDLMESS. Instead, the SDL capability is included in MAME
     and MESS" - http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?page_id=163
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