Debian Bug report logs - #387624
texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Egon Willighagen <ewilligh@uni-koeln.de>

To: Debian System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:12:17 +0200

Package: texlive-doc-de
Version: 2005.dfsg.1-1
Severity: wishlist

There is a useful .sty file in a documentation package, but would like to see
that .sty file available to latex.

# dpkg -L texlive-doc-de | grep echem
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-de/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem.sty
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-de/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-de/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem1.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc-de/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem2.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem2.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem1.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem.tex
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/german/latex-tipps-und-tricks/echem.sty


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Versions of packages texlive-doc-de depends on:
ii  texlive-common             2005.dfsg.1-1 TeX Live: Base component
ii  texlive-doc-base           2005.dfsg.1-1 TeX Live: Base documentation

texlive-doc-de recommends no packages.

Versions of packages tex-common depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]         1.5.4      Debian configuration management 
sy
ii  ucf                           2.0015     Update Configuration File: 
preserv

Versions of packages texlive-doc-de is related to:
pn  tetex-base                    <none>     (no description available)
pn  tetex-bin                     <none>     (no description available)
pn  tetex-extra                   <none>     (no description available)

-- debconf information:
  tex-common/check_texmf_missing:
  tex-common/cnf_name:
  tex-common/check_texmf_wrong:


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Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Frank Küster <frank@debian.org>

To: ewilligh@uni-koeln.de

Cc: 387624@bugs.debian.org, Debian System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:40:00 +0200

Egon Willighagen <ewilligh@uni-koeln.de> wrote:

> Package: texlive-doc-de
> Version: 2005.dfsg.1-1
> Severity: wishlist
>
> There is a useful .sty file in a documentation package, but would like to see
> that .sty file available to latex.

Hm, there are much more than one.  And I'm not sure that it is intended
for public usage.  The description on CTAN is:

,----
| Example code for "LaTeX Tips und Tricks" book.
| 
|   Description 	
| 
| This is the code for the examples in the book “LaTeX
| Tips und Tricks”, dpunkt 2000, ISBN 3-932588-37-1. The
| code includes application examples as well as packages and class
| files developed in the book.
`----

I guess they are not supported by the author, and hence not installed as
ordinary CTAN packages, but only as examples.  I don't have the book,
but if it has a didactical approach there might actually be examples
with severe limitations in them, "how to deal with that we'll see in the
next example".

Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the files
on CTAN.  Do you have the book?  I can imagine that the license
statement is in the book or on the accompanying CD.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Message #20 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Frank Küster <frank@debian.org>

To: ewilligh@uni-koeln.de

Cc: 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:15:43 +0200

Hi Egon,

regarding echem.sty and other style files I wrote:

Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:

> Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the files
> on CTAN.  Do you have the book?  I can imagine that the license
> statement is in the book or on the accompanying CD.

We'd really appreciate an answer on this question.  Otherwise, does
anybody in the list regularly pass by a book shop (Lehmann's) that has
the book available, and could look into the printed copyright notices?

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Message #25 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de>

To: 387624@bugs.debian.org

Cc: ewilligh@uni-koeln.de

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:55:10 +0200

On 25.09.06 Frank Küster (frank@debian.org) wrote:
> Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:

Hi,

> > Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the
> > files on CTAN.  Do you have the book?  I can imagine that the
> > license statement is in the book or on the accompanying CD.
> 
> We'd really appreciate an answer on this question.  Otherwise, does
> anybody in the list regularly pass by a book shop (Lehmann's) that
> has the book available, and could look into the printed copyright
> notices?
> 
Would you mind me to forward that question to the ML of Dante e.V.
Chances are good, that anybody has the book "LaTeX Tips und Tricks"

H.
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Message #30 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Egon Willighagen <ewilligh@uni-koeln.de>

To: Frank Küster <frank@debian.org>

Cc: 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:02:13 +0200

On Monday 25 September 2006 18:15, Frank Küster wrote:
> regarding echem.sty and other style files I wrote:
>
> Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:
> > Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the files
> > on CTAN.  Do you have the book? 

No, I don't :( 

I'll look around if the echem.sty is available separately too.

> > I can imagine that the license 
> > statement is in the book or on the accompanying CD.
>
> We'd really appreciate an answer on this question.

Sorry, been busy.

Egon

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Message #35 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Frank Küster <frank@debian.org>

To: Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de>

Cc: 387624@bugs.debian.org, ewilligh@uni-koeln.de

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:23:02 +0200

Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de> wrote:

> On 25.09.06 Frank Küster (frank@debian.org) wrote:
>> Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> > Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the
>> > files on CTAN.  Do you have the book?  I can imagine that the
>> > license statement is in the book or on the accompanying CD.
>> 
>> We'd really appreciate an answer on this question.  Otherwise, does
>> anybody in the list regularly pass by a book shop (Lehmann's) that
>> has the book available, and could look into the printed copyright
>> notices?
>> 
> Would you mind me to forward that question to the ML of Dante e.V.
> Chances are good, that anybody has the book "LaTeX Tips und Tricks"

That's a great idea, thanks!

Regards, Frank

-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Message #40 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Frank Küster <frank@debian.org>

To: ewilligh@uni-koeln.de

Cc: 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: texlive-doc-de: move echem.sty outside doc package

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:23:35 +0200

Egon Willighagen <ewilligh@uni-koeln.de> wrote:

> On Monday 25 September 2006 18:15, Frank Küster wrote:
>> regarding echem.sty and other style files I wrote:
>>
>> Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:
>> > Even worse, there doesn't seem to be a license statement with the files
>> > on CTAN.  Do you have the book? 
>
> No, I don't :( 
>
> I'll look around if the echem.sty is available separately too.

No need for any action on your part.  We'll find out.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)

Message #45 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thomas Weber <thomas.weber.mail@gmail.com>

To: 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: License statement for latex-tipps-and-tricks files

Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:59:10 +0100

Hi, 

I don't know if you are aware of it, but the README at
ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/examples/ltt/README

now states:

<snip>
"License is (according to the upload notice by the author):
Debian Free Software Guidelines."

I also had a short look at the book, there's nothing in it about the
examples, except for the download location (so I didn't find anything
contradicting the above).

Thanks
	Thomas

Message #50 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ralf Stubner <ralf.stubner@web.de>

To: Thomas Weber <thomas.weber.mail@gmail.com>, 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: License statement for latex-tipps-and-tricks files

Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 21:42:52 +0100

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 16:59 +0100, Thomas Weber wrote:
> 
> I don't know if you are aware of it, but the README at
> ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/examples/ltt/README
> 
> now states:
> 
> <snip>
> "License is (according to the upload notice by the author):
> Debian Free Software Guidelines."

I don't think this helps much. The DFSG are not a license but guidlines
to judge licenses by. It is good that the uploader to CTAN stated that
the license is DFSG free, but one still needs the explicit license.
 
> I also had a short look at the book, there's nothing in it about the
> examples, except for the download location (so I didn't find anything
> contradicting the above).

Some years ago I would have said 'fine'. Nowadays one should be more
careful. Hence an explicit statement by the author which files are
released under which license would be the best thing to have. 

cheerio
ralf

Message #55 received at 387624@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de>

To: Thomas Weber <thomas.weber.mail@gmail.com>, 387624@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#387624: License statement for latex-tipps-and-tricks files

Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:43:23 +0100

On 04.01.07 Thomas Weber (thomas.weber.mail@gmail.com) wrote:

Hi,

> I don't know if you are aware of it, but the README at
> ftp://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/examples/ltt/README
> 
> now states:
> 
> <snip>
> "License is (according to the upload notice by the author): Debian
> Free Software Guidelines."
> 
1. "Debian Free Software Guidelines" is not a license.
2. This statement has been added by anybody from the CTAN team. A
   statement from the author is missing until now.
3. The statement (or at least a referrer to that file) has to be in
   every file provided

> I also had a short look at the book, there's nothing in it about
> the examples, except for the download location (so I didn't find
> anything contradicting the above).
> 
Therefore we asked the author in September. Beside the statement,
that he'll do something nothing happened until now.

H.
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Cc: texlive-doc@packages.debian.org, texlive-doc@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#709200: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 17:00:19 +0000

Version: 2012.20120611-1+rm

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