Debian Bug report logs - #377620
RM: encore -- RoQA; orphaned, copyright problems

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Reported by: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <>

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 11:48:31 UTC

Severity: normal

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From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <>
Subject: O: encore -- core database for lambdamoo
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:36:03 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

The current maintainer of encore, Jonathan Walther <>,
is no longer active.  Therefore, I orphan this package
now.  If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it -- see for detailed
instructions how to adopt a package properly.

Some information about this package:

Package: encore
Binary: encore
Version: 4.0.1-2
Priority: optional
Section: net
Maintainer: Jonathan Walther <>
Build-Depends-Indep: lambdamoo, netcat, debhelper (>= 4.0.11)
Architecture: all
Format: 1.0
Directory: pool/main/e/encore
Files: ddd7a541871fe77242d63a3ca1118a15 708 encore_4.0.1-2.dsc
 6566dc5164827b96465d26a71e405325 4690901 encore_4.0.1.orig.tar.gz
 b8c71cfc3a80af1418f0133dd543b74a 1631 encore_4.0.1-2.diff.gz

Package: encore
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 11044
Maintainer: Jonathan Walther <>
Architecture: all
Version: 4.0.1-2
Provides: lambdamoo-core
Recommends: lambdamoo | lambdamoo-server
Suggests: lambdamoo-docs
Filename: pool/main/e/encore/encore_4.0.1-2_all.deb
Size: 4582322
MD5sum: 481af79035bf0dc33f719dec70057ad1
SHA1: 78e9b1b70d636a53518942aa4060e2f0458e81bf
SHA256: 18b8f193a59fba84d551a80b5dc7c7cc779387874669861f3325e7845c77cae8
Description: core database for lambdamoo
 enCore is an online virtual learning environment system built on LambdaMOO.
 It comes with a built in server-side client called Xpress. enCore was
 primarily designed for educational use, but can also be used for other
 purposes. It is perfect for digital community building, online writing
 projects, online conferencing, distance education programs, or just about
 any educational endeavour that aims to incorporate a rich and versatile
 online presence.
Tag: game::mud, role::content:data, use::gameplaying

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From: Nathanael Nerode <>
Subject: Please remove lambdamoo core dbs
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:48:35 -0400
retitle 377621 RM: ghostcore -- RoQA; orphaned, copyright problems
retitle 377620 RM: encore -- RoQA; orphaned, copyright problems
retitle 377622 RM: jhcore -- RoQA; orphaned, copyright problems
retitle 377623 RM: lambdacore -- RoQA; orphaned, copyright problems
reassign 377620
reassign 377621
reassign 377622
reassign 377623

LambdaCore has copyright problems.  It was written by a large number of
pseudonymous people, many of whom could probably not be identified even
by their pseudonyms now.  Most of them never granted explicit
licenses for the use of their work.  And most of it was done after 1988,
when copyright became automatic in the US.

Unfortunately, jhcore, encore, and ghostcore are all based on lambdacore,
and inherit the same copyright problems.

Presumably since LambdaCore has been released for years, the denizens of LambdaMOO
who wrote it are mostly OK with it.  But they didn't actually grant any licenses,
and we don't actually know whether they are all OK with it.

Accordingly, I request that this mass of orphaned packages be removed.

(The lambdamoo server is still usable with the 'minimal' core database, and the
server has had its copyright and licensing handled carefully, so it's OK.  However,
anyone choosing to adopt it should be warned about the core databases.)

Nathanael Nerode  <>

Theocracy, fascism, or absolute monarchy -- I don't care which it is, I don't like it.

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From: Debian Archive Maintenance <>
Subject: Bug#377620: fixed
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:01:30 +0000
We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

    encore |    4.0.1-3 | source, all
 ghostcore |    0.9.8-7 | source, all
    jhcore | 20050204-2 | source, all

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
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it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
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