Debian Bug report logs - #376350
Use LC_PAPER

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Message #3 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Suggestion: use LC_PAPER?

Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:47:35 +0200

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Package: libpaper1
Version: 1.1.19
Severity: wishlist

[0] cb@planck:~ $locale width
210
[0] cb@planck:~ $locale height
297
[0] cb@planck:~ $locale | grep PAPER
LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"

Wouldn't it make sense to use $LC_PAPER to override /etc/papersize on
a per-user base? The upside is that $PAPERSIZE is more or less a
debianism vs $LC_PAPER being POSIX. The downside is that the locale
doesn't know the paper name, but that could be guessed based on the
dimensions.

Christoph
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cb@df7cb.de | http://www.df7cb.de/

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Message #8 received at 376350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Giuseppe Sacco <eppesuig@debian.org>

To: Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>, 376350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#376350: Suggestion: use LC_PAPER?

Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:34:01 +0200

Christoph Berg wrote:
[...]
> Wouldn't it make sense to use $LC_PAPER to override /etc/papersize on
> a per-user base? The upside is that $PAPERSIZE is more or less a
> debianism vs $LC_PAPER being POSIX. The downside is that the locale
> doesn't know the paper name, but that could be guessed based on the
> dimensions.

You are suggesting to have a Debian tool (paperconf) to use a "standard" 
setting instead of its default; but I think that if you use a Debian 
tool you already adopted a "Debian way," otherwise you would have used a 
"standard" way, i.e., LC_PAPER.

Bye,
Giuseppe

Message #11 received at 376350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <myon@debian.org>

To: 376350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#376350: Suggestion: use LC_PAPER?

Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:55:20 +0200

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Re: Giuseppe Sacco 2006-07-05 <44AAECD9.90504@debian.org>
> You are suggesting to have a Debian tool (paperconf) to use a "standard" 
> setting instead of its default; but I think that if you use a Debian 
> tool you already adopted a "Debian way," otherwise you would have used a 
> "standard" way, i.e., LC_PAPER.

Well, I'm using the Debian way there because the standard way is not
supported by the programs that look at `paperconf`. Otoh, I don't have
strong feelings about it, so feel free to close the bug, or think of
an alternative way to glue PAPERSIZE and LC_PAPER together.

Christoph
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Message #16 received at 376350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pascal De Vuyst <pascal.devuyst@gmail.com>

To: 376350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Suggestion: use LC_PAPER

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:53:39 +0200

Severity: important

Having two places (LC_PAPER and /etc/papersize) to set the default
paper size is confusing.
This is proven by several bug reports in Ubuntu over years, users
expect the paper size to change according to LC_PAPER and usually are
not aware of /etc/papersize.
Since applications developers can use both LC_PAPER and /etc/papersize
to determine the paper size it would be nice if we could let libpaper
take its default from the locale, so that if /etc/papersize does not
exist or contains "auto" or "locale" that then the paper size is taken
from LC_PAPER.
In this way we have one logical location to set the paper size
(LC_PAPER) and all applications on the system make use of it.

Message #25 received at 376350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Boris Hollas <boris.hollas@gmx.de>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <376350@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re:

Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:38:54 +0200

Package: libpaper1
Version: 1.1.24
Severity: normal

The problem persists in Squeeze. I noted that Gnome applications ignore
/etc/papersize. I set this to a4, still applications use letter by default.
LC_PAPER, which is not mentioned in man papersize, is set to en_US.utf8 on my
system. If I set LC_PAPER to de_DE.utf8, error messages on my locale settings
appear. It is confusing to have several different places to set the papersize.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.1
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages libpaper1 depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]        1.5.36.1    Debian configuration management sy
ii  libc6                        2.11.2-10   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  ucf                          3.0025+nmu1 Update Configuration File: preserv

Versions of packages libpaper1 recommends:
ii  libpaper-utils                1.1.24     library for handling paper charact

libpaper1 suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  libpaper/defaultpaper: letter

Message #30 received at 376350@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj@ubuntu.com>

To: 376350@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Use LC_PAPER

Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:14:27 +0100

Solutions to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130690 were recently uploaded
to the current development version of Ubuntu. With that I think that the
issue in this bug report (and https://launchpad.net/bugs/393818) was
addressed in such an alternative way as Christoph asked for.

What's new? We simply set both. When a user sets LC_PAPER from an UI,
PAPERSIZE is set as well. When LC_PAPER is set in /etc/default/locale,
/etc/papersize is updated accordingly.

-- 
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj

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