Debian Bug report logs - #374268
gnome-dictionary: loses user configuration when upgrading

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 12:25:32 +0300

Package: gnome-utils
Version: 2.14.0-1
Severity: important

I have been using the gnome dict panel applet for a couple of years now.
It has gone through a number of changes, usually for the better, but the
current version has made it all but unusable for me. The biggest current
problem is that it insists on using dict.org, instead of localhost (like
it did before upgrading), and I can't find a place to configure that.
I have a dictd on localhost that is always available, and is very fast.
dict.org is not available when my laptop is offline, and even when it is
online, a lookup takes five to ten seconds.

Forcing people to use a remote server instead of a preferred local one
is quite a bad problem, which is why I think a severity of "important"
is justified.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-686
Locale: LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages gnome-utils depends on:
ii  e2fslibs                   1.39-1        ext2 filesystem libraries
ii  gconf2                     2.14.0-1      GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libart-2.0-2               2.3.17-1      Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii  libatk1.0-0                1.11.4-2      The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libaudiofile0              0.2.6-6       Open-source version of SGI's audio
ii  libavahi-client3           0.6.10-1      Avahi client library
ii  libavahi-common3           0.6.10-1      Avahi common library
ii  libavahi-glib1             0.6.10-1      Avahi glib integration library
ii  libbonobo2-0               2.14.0-1      Bonobo CORBA interfaces library
ii  libbonoboui2-0             2.14.0-2      The Bonobo UI library
ii  libc6                      2.3.6-13      GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2                  1.0.4-2       The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-2                0.61-6        simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libesd0                    0.2.36-3      Enlightened Sound Daemon - Shared 
ii  libfontconfig1             2.3.2-5.1     generic font configuration library
ii  libfreetype6               2.2.1-2       FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii  libgconf2-4                2.14.0-1      GNOME configuration database syste
ii  libgcrypt11                1.2.2-1       LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr
ii  libglade2-0                1:2.5.1-2     library to load .glade files at ru
ii  libglib2.0-0               2.10.2-1      The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgnome-desktop-2         2.14.2-1      Utility library for loading .deskt
ii  libgnome-keyring0          0.4.9-1       GNOME keyring services library
ii  libgnome2-0                2.14.1-2      The GNOME 2 library - runtime file
ii  libgnomecanvas2-0          2.14.0-2      A powerful object-oriented display
ii  libgnomeprint2.2-0         2.12.1-4      The GNOME 2.2 print architecture -
ii  libgnomeprintui2.2-0       2.12.1-3      GNOME 2.2 print architecture User 
ii  libgnomeui-0               2.14.1-1      The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf
ii  libgnomevfs2-0             2.14.2-1      GNOME virtual file-system (runtime
ii  libgnutls13                1.3.5-1.1     the GNU TLS library - runtime libr
ii  libgpg-error0              1.2-1         library for common error values an
ii  libgtk2.0-0                2.8.18-1      The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libhal1                    0.5.7-2       Hardware Abstraction Layer - share
ii  libice6                    1:1.0.0-3     X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libjpeg62                  6b-13         The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG 
ii  liborbit2                  1:2.14.0-1.1  libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii  libpanel-applet2-0         2.14.1-1+b1   library for GNOME 2 panel applets
ii  libpango1.0-0              1.12.3-1      Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libpng12-0                 1.2.8rel-5.1  PNG library - runtime
ii  libpopt0                   1.10-2        lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii  libsm6                     1:1.0.0-4     X11 Session Management library
ii  libstartup-notification0   0.8-1         library for program launch feedbac
ii  libtasn1-2                 1:0.2.17-2    Manage ASN.1 structures (runtime)
ii  libx11-6                   2:1.0.0-6     X11 client-side library
ii  libxcursor1                1.1.5.2-5     X cursor management library
ii  libxext6                   1:1.0.0-4     X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii  libxfixes3                 1:3.0.1.2-4   X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxi6                     1:1.0.0-5     X11 Input extension library
ii  libxinerama1               1:1.0.1-4     X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  libxml2                    2.6.26.dfsg-1 GNOME XML library
ii  libxrandr2                 2:1.1.0.2-4   X11 RandR extension library
ii  libxrender1                1:0.9.0.2-4   X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  scrollkeeper               0.3.14-11     A free electronic cataloging syste
ii  zlib1g                     1:1.2.3-11    compression library - runtime

Versions of packages gnome-utils recommends:
ii  gksu                          1.3.7-1    graphical frontend to su

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Message #10 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

To: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>, 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:27:36 +0200

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Il giorno dom, 18/06/2006 alle 12.25 +0300, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
> Package: gnome-utils
> Version: 2.14.0-1
> Severity: important
> 
> I have been using the gnome dict panel applet for a couple of years now.
> It has gone through a number of changes, usually for the better, but the
> current version has made it all but unusable for me. The biggest current
> problem is that it insists on using dict.org, instead of localhost (like
> it did before upgrading), and I can't find a place to configure that.
> I have a dictd on localhost that is always available, and is very fast.
> dict.org is not available when my laptop is offline, and even when it is
> online, a lookup takes five to ten seconds.
> 
> Forcing people to use a remote server instead of a preferred local one
> is quite a bad problem, which is why I think a severity of "important"
> is justified.

Does "Edit -> Preferences -> Sources -> Add" not work?

Ciao
~marco

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Message #15 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

To: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

Cc: 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:12:45 +0200

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Il giorno dom, 18/06/2006 alle 22.09 +0300, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
> There is no Edit menu.

The gnome-dictionary app - the applet's based on that - has one.

~marco

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Message #20 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

To: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

Cc: 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:09:53 +0300

su, 2006-06-18 kello 20:27 +0200, Marco Cabizza kirjoitti:
> Il giorno dom, 18/06/2006 alle 12.25 +0300, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
> > Package: gnome-utils
> > Version: 2.14.0-1
> > Severity: important
> > 
> > I have been using the gnome dict panel applet for a couple of years now.
> > It has gone through a number of changes, usually for the better, but the
> > current version has made it all but unusable for me. The biggest current
> > problem is that it insists on using dict.org, instead of localhost (like
> > it did before upgrading), and I can't find a place to configure that.
> > I have a dictd on localhost that is always available, and is very fast.
> > dict.org is not available when my laptop is offline, and even when it is
> > online, a lookup takes five to ten seconds.
> > 
> > Forcing people to use a remote server instead of a preferred local one
> > is quite a bad problem, which is why I think a severity of "important"
> > is justified.
> 
> Does "Edit -> Preferences -> Sources -> Add" not work?

There is no Edit menu.

-- 
i++; /* TODO: make this pre-increment - more efficient */

Message #25 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

To: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

Cc: 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:23:36 +0300

su, 2006-06-18 kello 22:09 +0300, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti:
> There is no Edit menu.

Excuse me, I am hasty. The editing of a server is hidden behind a popup
menu in the list (also, at least the Finnish translation claims to be a
list of dictionaries, not servers; one server can have any number of
dictionaries).

Using that might work, but I have lost the will to try, sorry (the
current version of the applet is unpleasant to use in so many ways that
telnetting to the dict port is faster, nicer, and easier to use;
upstream's bug tracker has reports of all or most of the problems
already, though, so I don't feel like reporting them against Debian,
too). 

The real problem here then is why the previous, working setting to
localhost was forgotten upon upgrade.

-- 
Yet another password: just say no.

Message #30 received at 374268-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

To: 374268-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:40:43 +0200

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All's well that ends well then :)

~marco

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Message #35 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

To: 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268 closed by Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com> (Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org)

Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:58:03 +0300

su, 2006-06-18 kello 15:06 -0700, Debian Bug Tracking System kirjoitti:
> > All's well that ends well then :)

I disagree: the bug is still there. The bug that makes the program
forget its settings over an upgrade. Please reopen and retitle.

-- 
Without grand dreams, how can you save the world?

Message #40 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Cabizza <marco87@gmail.com>

To: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>, 374268@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#374268: gnome-dictionary: insists on using dict.org

Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:13:52 +0200

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Il giorno lun, 19/06/2006 alle 06.58 +0300, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
> su, 2006-06-18 kello 15:06 -0700, Debian Bug Tracking System kirjoitti:
> > > All's well that ends well then :)
> 
> I disagree: the bug is still there. The bug that makes the program
> forget its settings over an upgrade. Please reopen and retitle.
> 

gnome-dictionary has been rewritten, therefore the bug is due to
2.12->2.14 upgrade. If so, it's likely for this bug to be WONTFIX'ed
upstream. I'll talk to the maintainer later today.

~marco

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Message #45 received at 374268@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi@gmail.com>

To: 374268@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Lars Wirzenius <liw@iki.fi>

Subject: About gnome-dictionary (and bug 347268)

Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:15:45 +0100

Hi,

I'm the gnome-dictionary author and gnome-utils co-maintainer.  The
fastest way to add a dictionary source is using the Preferences dialog,
which is the same for both the dictionary application and applet (Edit
-> Preferences or right click on the applet, then Preferences).  The
correct procedure is also explained in the dictionary's user manual.

The dictionary was completely re-written (it was way past any chance of
maintainability) during the 2.12 cycle.  Unfortunately, I did not add a
way to port the old settings because if the format and storage of the
new dictionary is totally different from the previous (the change was
necessary in order to support multiple dictionary servers without having
to replace the current settings); I also could not add a dictionary
source for a local dictionary because I cannot assume in any way that
the user has installed a local dictionary server.

If you don't want to configure using the UI, dropping a file named
"local.desktop" with content:

  [Dictionary Source]
  Transport=dictd
  Hostname=localhost
  Port=2628

in the ${HOME}/.gnome2/gnome-dictionary directory will create a
dictionary source for the local dictionary server; this might also help
for multiple deployments or multi-user installations.

Ciao,
 Emmanuele.

-- 
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