Debian Bug report logs - #367883
ITP: spring -- open-source real-time strategy engine

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Kurt Yoder <ktydeb1@yoderhome.com>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RFP: TA Spring -- An open-source real-time strategy engine. It currently is similar to the late-90's game "Total Annihilation" and allows you to play using the same units assuming you already own the game.

Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:36:37 -0400

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name    : TA Spring
  Version         : 0.71b1
  Upstream Author : several listed at http://taspring.clan-sy.com/team.php
* URL             : http://taspring.clan-sy.com/
* License         : GPL
  Description     : An open-source real-time strategy engine. It currently is similar to the late-90's game "Total Annihilation" and allows you to play using the same units assuming you already own the game.

(Include the long description here.)
There is more information at the FAQ:

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/wiki/FAQ

also on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TA_Spring

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (650, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (550, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-k7
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)

Message #12 received at 367883-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bart Martens <bartm@knars.be>

To: 367883-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: license

Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:45:43 +0200

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TA_Spring

"however, since TA Spring uses units from the original Total
Annihilation game, you must own TA to legally play TA Spring."

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/wiki/FAQ#Is_Spring_free.3F

"However, some parts of the game are still under copyright by their
owners. Therefore, today, you need to own the original TA game if you
want to play."

Message #17 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Tobi Vollebregt <tobivollebregt@gmail.com>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: license

Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:13:09 +0100

Note that both our website and the wikipedia entry are slightly outdated 
regarding what is *possible* with the (free, GPL'ed) engine:

There is a very playable, though unconventional, "mod" (read: content 
package), called "NanoBlobs" that's licensed under a combination of CC & GPL, 
which doesn't contain or depend on any Total Annihilation content or 
intellectual property.

Hence I'm convinced it should very well be possible to make an entirely free, 
redistributable package of it at this moment.

-- Tobi Vollebregt (tvo), one of the active TA Spring developers

Message #22 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bernard Lidicky <bernard@matfyz.cz>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Just a wish from ordinary user

Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:07:25 +0100

Hi,
I would love if the TA would be in debian. Please add it :-)
Bernard

PS: Sorry for message wit not much info but I simply love TA game.

Message #27 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <cyril.brulebois@enst-bretagne.fr>

To: Tobi Vollebregt <tobivollebregt@gmail.com>

Cc: Bart Martens <bartm@knars.be>, Bernard Lidicky <bernard@matfyz.cz>, 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: license

Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:59 +0100

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retitle 367883 ITP: spring -- open-source real-time strategy engine
thanks

As a debian-games team member, I'm going to take care of this one.

Tobi Vollebregt <tobivollebregt@gmail.com> (25/11/2006):
> Note that both our website and the wikipedia entry are slightly
> outdated regarding what is *possible* with the (free, GPL'ed) engine:
> 
> There is a very playable, though unconventional, "mod" (read: content
> package), called "NanoBlobs" that's licensed under a combination of CC
> & GPL, which doesn't contain or depend on any Total Annihilation
> content or intellectual property.
As discussed on IRC, GPL is OK but CC isn't, for main. We're aiming at a
`bare' engine packages with instructions about how to install mods.

> Hence I'm convinced it should very well be possible to make an
> entirely free, redistributable package of it at this moment.
Sure. ;-)

-- 
Cyril Brulebois

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Message #36 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <cyril.brulebois@enst-bretagne.fr>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Tobi Vollebregt <tobivollebregt@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: license

Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:39:17 +0100

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Cyril Brulebois <cyril.brulebois@enst-bretagne.fr> (29/12/2006):
> Tobi Vollebregt <tobivollebregt@gmail.com> (25/11/2006):
> > Hence I'm convinced it should very well be possible to make an
> > entirely free, redistributable package of it at this moment.
> Sure. ;-)

Just for the record, and because QA members regularly check the status
of ITPs: Tobi and I are working on polishing the licensing of this
package (and writing the copyright file), which should be hopefully
achieved soon, once all unclear license statements are sorted out.

So yes: We are still interested in this package and working on it.

Cheers,

-- 
Cyril Brulebois

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Message #41 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <cyril.brulebois@enst-bretagne.fr>

To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: owner 367883

Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:27:19 +0200

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owner 367883 Richard Hartmann <richih.mailinglist@gmail.com>

Message #48 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <fenio@debian.org>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: ping

Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:00:02 +0100

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Hello.

Any news on packaging Spring?

regards
fEnIo

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Message #53 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: wnpp: 367883: Spring copyright status

Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:33:51 +0800

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Back in 2007 Cyril Brulebois did a license analysis:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-games/2007/10/msg00002.html

Unfortunately most of what he found still applies to the latest release.

In addition, some discussion from the upstream IRC channel:

<pabs3> which of the games are open source?
<DeM0nFiRe> All of them, I think. The engine is released under GPL, so it would have to be OSS for all, unless there's another license I don't know about'
<pabs3> the PURE game at least isn't
<jk`gentoo> kernel panic is the most free one atm
<DeM0nFiRe> Ok, then I have no idea XD
<jk`gentoo> but even it has not a license policy
<jk`gentoo> just CA plans to become 100% FSF free

They are going to be making a new release soon, I'm going to do a review
of the master branch of their git repo and try and get the issues fixed
for the next version.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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Message #58 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Stuckey <james.stuckey@stud-mail.uni-wuerzburg.de>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:17:11 +0200

17:12 <stuckey> I'm just wondering what the status of spring being put  
in Debian is.
17:12 <pabs> ah
17:12 <stuckey> There are two mods now that are free.
17:13 <pabs> well the copyright/license situation wasn't encouraging  
so I lost motivation there and moved on to other stuff
17:13 <stuckey> Have you played this game?
17:13 <pabs> no
17:13 <stuckey> What's wrong with the copyright/license?
17:14 <stuckey> From what I understand, the license on the spring  
engine is gpl v2.
17:15 <pabs> I don't remember exactly, KiBi did an analysis several  
years ago and most of that seemed to still apply when I started  
looking at it
17:15 <pabs> details linked from the WNPP bug IIRC
17:16 <stuckey> WNPP bug?
17:16 <pabs> 'Work Needed, Prospective Packages'
17:16 <pabs> wnpp.debian.net/
17:16 <stuckey> Ah, okay. Sorry, I'm just a user, not a developer.
17:17 <pabs> http://bugs.debian.org/367883
17:19 <pabs> which is the second mod that is free? I know the kernel  
panic one was
17:20 <stuckey> Spring 1944
17:20 <stuckey> I tried it a while back and it was certainly playable then.
17:21 <pabs> hmm, where is the license documented?
17:22 <pabs> nice looking mod
17:23 <stuckey> Yeah it is, though it has a long way to go.
17:40 <stuckey> Okay, so it seems to be a mixture of the creative  
commons license and the GNU license.
17:42 <stuckey> There's a CC and a GNU license included in the /docs  
folder when you download the mod.
17:53 <pabs> cool

Message #63 received at 367883@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Amadori <marco.amadori@gmail.com>

To: 367883@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Preliminary packages available to test

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:41:09 +0200

Hi all spring enthusiasts,
I'm packaging spring from scratch but I already looked at ubuntu's PPA work, 
I'm in contact with a DD which probably will sponsor those packages.

Preliminar packages are present on mentors.debian.net and binaries on 
http://alioth.debian.org/~mammadori-guest .

The packages are not in their final release, some copyright files and library 
paths must be addressed but they are in a working and playable state.

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Message #70 received at 367883-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco Amadori <marco.amadori@gmail.com>

To: 367883-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#367883: fixed in spring 0.80.5.2-1

Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:32:42 +0000

Source: spring
Source-Version: 0.80.5.2-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
spring, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

spring-common_0.80.5.2-1_all.deb
  to main/s/spring/spring-common_0.80.5.2-1_all.deb
spring_0.80.5.2-1.diff.gz
  to main/s/spring/spring_0.80.5.2-1.diff.gz
spring_0.80.5.2-1.dsc
  to main/s/spring/spring_0.80.5.2-1.dsc
spring_0.80.5.2-1_i386.deb
  to main/s/spring/spring_0.80.5.2-1_i386.deb
spring_0.80.5.2.orig.tar.gz
  to main/s/spring/spring_0.80.5.2.orig.tar.gz



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
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and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:55:25 +0100
Source: spring
Binary: spring spring-common
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 0.80.5.2-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Marco Amadori <marco.amadori@gmail.com>
Description: 
 spring     - a modern full-3D RTS game engine
 spring-common - a modern full-3D RTS game engine (common files)
Closes: 367883
Changes: 
 spring (0.80.5.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial release (Closes: #367883).
   * Thanks to Scott Ritchie <scottritchie@ubuntu.com> and Chris Clearwater
     <chris@detrino.org> for their MOTU packaging which gave me a couple of
     hints.
   * This release do not include the Java AI interface due to a couple of
     sourceless jar distributed in the upstream tarball that are stripped in
     this packaging.
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