Debian Bug report logs - #365427
O: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:42:35 +0200

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Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Hi,

apt-build really lacks of support right now.
It works pretty well, but currently it is not capable to deal with
every particular case that it might encounter.
Many improvements could be done, mainly by using libapt-pkg-perl and
enhancing it (like adding new bindings), instead of using external
programs such as apt-get or apt-cache.

I have no time and no interest in working on apt-build, since I never
used it.
I only wrote it as a proof of concept that Debian could work the way
Gentoo did.

If you want to kick out Gentoo and source based distro, please consider
helping apt-build.

A project is already set up on Alioth.

Cheers,
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Message #10 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: George Danchev <danchev@spnet.net>

To: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>, 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:01:05 +0300

On Sunday 30 April 2006 01:42, Julien Danjou wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: normal
>
> Hi,

Hello,

> apt-build really lacks of support right now.
> It works pretty well, but currently it is not capable to deal with
> every particular case that it might encounter.
> Many improvements could be done, mainly by using libapt-pkg-perl and
> enhancing it (like adding new bindings), instead of using external
> programs such as apt-get or apt-cache.

Perhaps some bits from apt-build can e merged to sibling projects like 
apt-src, sbuild or similar.

> I have no time and no interest in working on apt-build, since I never
> used it.
> I only wrote it as a proof of concept that Debian could work the way
> Gentoo did.

I'm not sure what you mean here, but Debian already has several tools to 
build, test and improve debian source packages. Just to name a few ... 
starting from [ the bare apt-get build-dep && --build, several 
<SCM>-buildpackage, debuild, pbuilder, apt-src, sbuild and probably several 
unofficials like apt-fu ... and ending with the famous 
wanna-build/buildd/sbuild infrastructure along with dak ]

> If you want to kick out Gentoo and source based distro, please consider
> helping apt-build.

These are really no good reasons and probably a loose bait, I doubt there is 
something or someone to kick out ;-) Again I'm not sure what the definition 
of source based distro is and what is Debian lacking exactly ;-) IMHO having 
tools to build the distro source packages implies being a source based 
distro, but Debian has always has such tools and infrastructures. I really 
can't think of other distribution on the Earth with so many build tools.

> A project is already set up on Alioth.

Good. No offence plase, but I realy do not see the point of having so many 
build wizards ;-) Consolidate please ;-)

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Message #15 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>

To: George Danchev <danchev@spnet.net>

Cc: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:03:17 +0200

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On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:01:05AM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean here, but Debian already has several tools to 
> build, test and improve debian source packages. Just to name a few ... 
> starting from [ the bare apt-get build-dep && --build, several 
> <SCM>-buildpackage, debuild, pbuilder, apt-src, sbuild and probably several 
> unofficials like apt-fu ... and ending with the famous 
> wanna-build/buildd/sbuild infrastructure along with dak ]

apt-build's main purpose is about recompiling packages with gcc
optimization flags.
However, it is designed to be an apt-get like tool. None of the software
you quoted can pretend to be as simple as apt-get (maybe apt-src).
apt-build tries to.

> These are really no good reasons and probably a loose bait, I doubt there is 
> something or someone to kick out ;-)

Hey, just kidding. :-)

> Again I'm not sure what the definition 
> of source based distro is and what is Debian lacking exactly ;-) IMHO having 
> tools to build the distro source packages implies being a source based 
> distro, but Debian has always has such tools and infrastructures. I really 
> can't think of other distribution on the Earth with so many build tools.

I cleary agree. But today, we have a simple tool called apt-get to
install a binary package but none to build && install a source
package, furthermore, with optimized compilation flags.
This is what apt-build is about: compiling and installing Debian
sources on the fly, as simply as apt-get do it for binary packages, or
emerge for Gentoo.

Cheers,
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Message #20 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Aurélien GÉRÔME <ag@roxor.cx>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:33:36 +0200

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Hi Julien,

It is a nice tool to tackle Gentoo. I will play with it in some weeks
and probably join the team (i.e. you actually) on Alioth. ;)

Cheers,
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Message #25 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joseph Smidt <jsmidt@byu.edu>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Cc: ag@roxor.cx

Subject: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:56:51 -0600

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:33:36 +0200 Aurelien Gerome wrote:
>It is a nice tool to tackle Gentoo. I will play with it in some weeks
>and probably join the team (i.e. you actually) on Alioth. ;)

I also will begin testing apt-build over the next few weeks and desire
to join the team.  I admit I am a fairly new programmer, but I think
apt-build is a wonderful idea and would enjoy collaborating with everyone to 
help with this package.  Feel free to email me with any ideas I could
help with, even documentation.  Thanks.

				Joseph Smidt
    
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Message #30 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Zhao Difei" <difeiz@gmail.com>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:20:04 +0800

Hi, I am very interested in apt-build and intent to help, is this RFH
still activate?

Cheers,
Difei

Message #35 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <bss03@volumehost.net>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Volunteer

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:07:26 -0600

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Found this bug which is a bit old but, if you still need more developers, 
please let me know.  My day job is programming, but I've never contributed to 
Debian.  I figured a RFH would be a good place to start.

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Message #40 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: RFH: apt-build -- Need new developer(s)

Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:31:12 +0200

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retitle 365427 RFA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize and install package
kthxbye

At 1146350555 time_t, Julien Danjou wrote:
> I have no time and no interest in working on apt-build, since I never
> used it.

And I do request its adoption from a lovely maitainer.

Cheers,
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Message #63 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>

To: Maximiliano Marin Bustos <maxmarin@gmail.com>, 365427@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: apt-build

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:42:47 +0100

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retitle 365427 RFA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages
noowner 365427
thanks

At 1227533769 time_t, Maximiliano Marin Bustos wrote:
> retitle #365427 ITA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize
> and install package
> owner #365427 !
> thanks

No news from Maximiliano, therefore I'm retitling to RFA.

Cheers,
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Message #72 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Maximiliano Marin Bustos <maxmarin@gmail.com>

To: Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org>

Cc: 365427@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: apt-build

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:07:35 -0300

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Julien Danjou <acid@debian.org> wrote:
> retitle 365427 RFA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages
> noowner 365427
> thanks
>
> At 1227533769 time_t, Maximiliano Marin Bustos wrote:
>> retitle #365427 ITA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize
>> and install package
>> owner #365427 !
>> thanks
>
> No news from Maximiliano, therefore I'm retitling to RFA.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Julien Danjou
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Ok, adopt it.
No problemo

Bye.


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Message #77 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gabriel Borowiak <borowiak@gmail.com>

To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: acid@debian.org, 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: apt-build

Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:22:36 +1930

retitle #365427 ITA: apt-build -- apt-build -- frontend to apt to
build, optimize and install packages like Gentoo-Portage system
owner #365427
thanks


Gabriel G. Borowiak

Message #98 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: apt-build: changing back from ITA to O

Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:57:16 +0000

retitle 365427 O: apt-build -- apt-build -- frontend to apt to
noowner 365427
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of apt-build back from ITA
(Intent to Adopt) to O (Orphaned), because this bug hasn't seen any activity
during the last 6 months.

If you are still interested in adopting apt-build, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 365427 ITA: apt-build -- apt-build -- frontend to apt to
 owner 365427 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITA for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
adopting the package. It is also a good idea to document your progress on this
ITA from time to time, by mailing <365427@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>

Message #117 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: how can I help?

Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 12:25:12 -0400

Hello, I am looking to get involved in debian development and would
like to start with helping this package as I have interest in source
compilation.

Please let me know how I can help this package get out of adoption.


Thanks,
Pranith

Message #122 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dominique Lasserre <lasserre.d@googlemail.com>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: how can I help?

Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:37:20 +0200

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Hi Pranith,

currently I am working to port apt-build completely to AptPkg module. At
the moment I have implemented mappings (from AptPkg::Package to
AptPkg::Source objects). Now I am looking how to install packages over
Perl modules (and how to track build dependencies). If you are
interested to help, please mail me directly to get involved (then I will
send you a copy of my (heavily unstable) working branch with comments).


Regards

Dominique

On 01/07/12 18:25, Pranith Kumar wrote:
> Hello, I am looking to get involved in debian development and would
> like to start with helping this package as I have interest in source
> compilation.
> 
> Please let me know how I can help this package get out of adoption.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Pranith
> 
> 
> 

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From: Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: apt-build: changing back from ITA to O

Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:00:31 +0000

retitle 365427 O: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize and install package
noowner 365427
tag 365427 - pending
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of apt-build back from ITA
(Intent to Adopt) to O (Orphaned), because this bug hasn't seen any activity
during the last 6 months.

If you are still interested in adopting apt-build, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 365427 ITA: apt-build -- frontend to apt to build, optimize and install package
 owner 365427 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITA for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
adopting the package. It is also a good idea to document your progress on this
ITA from time to time, by mailing <365427@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Frank, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>

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From: Francisco de Paula Marinho Neto <eng.franciscomarinho@gmail.com>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Eu queria adotar esse pacote.

Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:27:31 -0200

Message #168 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Коля Гурьев <guriev-ns@ya.ru>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Autotests for apt-build utility

Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:40:07 +0300

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I intend to do some refactoring of apt-build, but first I'd like to
write autopkgtests for the package. I have two versions of a simple test
case for install command, and I still can't decide what language use for
tests. In attachment you'll find two identical scripts in Bash and Perl.
Comments are welcome!

It'd be good to write full tests before new year and buster freeze.

To be clear: I'm not going to adopt the package yet, because I'm unsure
that I have enough time for this work.

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Message #173 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: No Body <nob054181@gmail.com>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced?

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 22:06:56 -0500

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Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced by something else?
I read the entire bug message history and saw that in 2016 there was some
development going on to replace the package.  Has that already been done?
If so, then I presume there is no point in adopting this package.

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Message #178 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Axel Beckert <abe@debian.org>

To: No Body <nob054181@gmail.com>

Cc: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: [O: apt-build] Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced?

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 05:48:48 +0200

Hi,

No Body wrote:
> Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced by something
> else?

There's nothing like it so far AFAIK. apt-src is close, but has a
different focus (modification instead of compile-time optimization).

> I read the entire bug message history and saw that in 2016 there was some
> development going on to replace the package.

I don't see which message you mean. In 2016, there were only control
messages and spam in this bug report.

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Message #183 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brian Thompson <nob054181@gmail.com>

To: "365427@bugs.debian.org" <365427@bugs.debian.org>, Axel Beckert <abe@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Autotests for apt-build utility

Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 00:36:44 -0500

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Message #188 received at 365427@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brian Thompson <soul@hashvault.io>

To: 365427@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#365427: [O: apt-build] Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced?

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:04:52 -0500

On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 05:48:48 +0200 Axel Beckert <abe@debian.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> No Body wrote:
> > Is this package worth adopting or has it been replaced by something
> > else?
> 
> There's nothing like it so far AFAIK. apt-src is close, but has a
> different focus (modification instead of compile-time optimization).
> 
> > I read the entire bug message history and saw that in 2016 there was some
> > development going on to replace the package.
> 
> I don't see which message you mean. In 2016, there were only control
> messages and spam in this bug report.
> 
> 		Regards, Axel
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> 
> 

Axel, switched my email address to one that I actually use. Going to start looking into this package more.
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Brian

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Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 08:45:56 +0000

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