Debian Bug report logs - #358749
w3m: Use keys < and > to switch tabs instead of awkward { and } (elinks compatible)

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Package: w3m; Maintainer for w3m is Tatsuya Kinoshita <tats@debian.org>; Source for w3m is src:w3m (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:03:08 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: wontfix

Found in version w3m/0.5.1-4

Done: d+deb@vdr.jp

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>:
Bug#358749; Package w3m. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: w3m: Use keys < and > to switch tabs instead of awkward { and } (elinks compatible)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:00:28 +0200
Package: w3m
Version: 0.5.1-4
Severity: wishlist

The keyboard keys "{" and "}" are in difficult places in various
keyboards (need AltGr + top row access in Europe). It seems that
elinks has bound changing tabs to actions

     < Previous tab
     > Next tab

Which seems more logical. Switcing the tabs is far more frequent than the
currently bound keys:

     < Shift screen left
     > Shift screen right

which, these good keys, are mostly left unused.

Please consider chnaging the tab movement to

    <
    >

And moving the shift movement to:

    {
    }

This would help accessibility of the program and make it also compatible
with elinks.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_US)

Versions of packages w3m depends on:
ii  libc6                         2.3.6-4    GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libgc1c2                      1:6.6-2    conservative garbage collector for
ii  libgpmg1                      1.19.6-22  General Purpose Mouse - shared lib
ii  libncurses5                   5.5-1      Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libssl0.9.7                   0.9.7g-5   SSL shared libraries
ii  zlib1g                        1:1.2.3-11 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages w3m recommends:
ii  ca-certificates               20050804   Common CA Certificates PEM files

-- no debconf information



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org:
Bug#358749; Package w3m. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at 358749@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>
To: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>, 358749@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#358749: w3m: Use keys < and > to switch tabs instead of awkward { and } (elinks compatible)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:10:45 +0900
At Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:00:28 +0200,
Jari Aalto wrote:

> The keyboard keys "{" and "}" are in difficult places in various
> keyboards (need AltGr + top row access in Europe). It seems that
> elinks has bound changing tabs to actions
> 
>      < Previous tab
>      > Next tab
> 
> Which seems more logical. Switcing the tabs is far more frequent than the
> currently bound keys:
> 
>      < Shift screen left
>      > Shift screen right
> 
> which, these good keys, are mostly left unused.
> 
> Please consider chnaging the tab movement to
> 
>     <
>     >
> 
> And moving the shift movement to:
> 
>     {
>     }
> 
> This would help accessibility of the program and make it also compatible
> with elinks.

You can change your keymap by putting ~/.w3m/keymap as follows:

% echo '
keymap <        PREV_TAB
keymap >        NEXT_TAB
keymap {        SHIFT_LEFT
keymap }        SHIFT_RIGHT
' > ~/.w3m/keymap

Regards,
Fumitoshi UKAI



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>:
Bug#358749; Package w3m. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at 358749@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>
To: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>
Cc: 358749@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#358749: w3m: Use keys < and > to switch tabs instead of awkward { and } (elinks compatible)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:49:24 +0200
| At Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:00:28 +0200,
| Jari Aalto wrote:
| 
| > The keyboard keys "{" and "}" are in difficult places in various
| > keyboards (need AltGr + top row access in Europe). It seems that
| > elinks has bound changing tabs to actions
| > 
| >      < Previous tab
| >      > Next tab
| > 
| > Which seems more logical. Switcing the tabs is far more frequent than the
| > currently bound keys:
| > 
| >      < Shift screen left
| >      > Shift screen right
| > 
| > which, these good keys, are mostly left unused.
| > 
| > Please consider chnaging the tab movement to
| > 
| >     <
| >     >
| > 
| > And moving the shift movement to:
| > 
| >     {
| >     }
| > 
| > This would help accessibility of the program and make it also compatible
| > with elinks.
| 
| You can change your keymap by putting ~/.w3m/keymap as follows:
| 
| % echo '
| keymap <        PREV_TAB
| keymap >        NEXT_TAB
| keymap {        SHIFT_LEFT
| keymap }        SHIFT_RIGHT
| ' > ~/.w3m/keymap

Thanks, but I was addressing a more generic usability enhancement.


1) The { } keys are in very uncomfortable place in Europe keyboards
2) The < > keys are currently almost unused in w3m

=> Therefore it would be 

1) Better to move to use <> for tab, which are more accessible
2) it would also be elinks(1) combpatible and user would have
   same unterface.

Jari




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Tatsuya Kinoshita <tats@debian.org>:
Bug#358749; Package w3m. (Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:03:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to d+deb@vdr.jp:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Tatsuya Kinoshita <tats@debian.org>. (Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:03:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #20 received at 358749@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: d+deb@vdr.jp
To: 358749@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: w3m: Use keys < and > to switch tabs instead of awkward { and } (elinks compatible)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:59:39 +0900
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tags 358749 + wontfix
thanks

> > You can change your keymap by putting ~/.w3m/keymap as follows:

> Thanks, but I was addressing a more generic usability enhancement.

I am afraid that it is late in the day to change default keymap,
so I tag wontfix.
-- 
Regards,
	dai

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Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from d+deb@vdr.jp to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:03:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Reply sent to d+deb@vdr.jp:
You have taken responsibility. (Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:06:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:06:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #27 received at 358749-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: d+deb@vdr.jp
To: 104745-done@bugs.debian.org, 125662-done@bugs.debian.org, 139865-done@bugs.debian.org, 264652-done@bugs.debian.org, 358749-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: closing old wontfix wishlist
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:03:25 +0900
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closing old wontfix wishlist.
please reopen if still needed.
-- 
Regards,
	dai

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Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 09 Dec 2011 07:36:12 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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