Debian Bug report logs - #328847
RM: saxon-catalog -- RoM; old, superseded

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <marc@marcbrockschmidt.de>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: very old package, should this be removed?

Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:37:42 +0200

Package: saxon-catalog
Version: 20000203-4
Severity: serious

Hi,

During the Debian QA meeting hold during Sept. 09th till 11th, we
decided that looking at packages that haven't been uploaded for a very
long time could cover up some QA problems.

I've done this now and your package showed up on the list. I propose
to remove it.
It has not many users, was NMUed twice and has 2 RC bugs at the moment.

This usually means that your package matched some of the following
criteria:

 [1] Your packages has not had a maintainer upload for more than
     three years.

 [2] has one or more RC bugs with no answer from the maintainer (**)

 [3] the state of your packages in general seems to indicate that you
     might be MIA 

 [4] (if we propose a removal) it shows in popcon as having less than
     100 users with the package installed.

 [5] the package was not released with sarge

and at least ([1] and ( [2] or [3] or [4] or [5] )) was true.

(**) The maintainer not answering to RC bugs refers to bugs filed
more than one month before the time the check was performed.

After 7 days without answer from you (the maintainer) we will reassign
this bug to either WNPP (in case we propose to orphan it) or
ftp.debian.org (in case we propose to remove it).

The package will need an upload or an explanation for this action not to
proceed.

Please do *not* upload a package just to get off this list - it won't
help the package at all. Maintainers should be responsive and feel
responsible for their packages without needing other people to force
them to do work. Sometimes, finding a new maintainer or even removing
the package completly from the archive is better for Debian's users. 

Thanks!

Marc

Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mark Johnson <mrj@debian.org>

To: "Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt" <marc@marcbrockschmidt.de>, 328847@bugs.debian.org

Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#328847: very old package, should this be removed?

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:25:31 -0400

Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Package: saxon-catalog
> Version: 20000203-4
> Severity: serious
> 
> Hi,
> 
> During the Debian QA meeting hold during Sept. 09th till 11th, we
> decided that looking at packages that haven't been uploaded for a very
> long time could cover up some QA problems.
> 
> I've done this now and your package showed up on the list. I propose
> to remove it.

As the maintainer, I agree that it should be removed. It has been 
superceded by the libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java package, anyway.

The saxon-catalog package was essentially a user-friendly wrapper to 
provide transparent, xml catalog-aware XSLT processing with saxon.

It's really no longer maintainable and IMO should be dropped.

Cheers,
Mark


> It has not many users, was NMUed twice and has 2 RC bugs at the moment.
> 
> This usually means that your package matched some of the following
> criteria:
> 
>  [1] Your packages has not had a maintainer upload for more than
>      three years.
> 
>  [2] has one or more RC bugs with no answer from the maintainer (**)
> 
>  [3] the state of your packages in general seems to indicate that you
>      might be MIA 
> 
>  [4] (if we propose a removal) it shows in popcon as having less than
>      100 users with the package installed.
> 
>  [5] the package was not released with sarge
> 
> and at least ([1] and ( [2] or [3] or [4] or [5] )) was true.
> 
> (**) The maintainer not answering to RC bugs refers to bugs filed
> more than one month before the time the check was performed.
> 
> After 7 days without answer from you (the maintainer) we will reassign
> this bug to either WNPP (in case we propose to orphan it) or
> ftp.debian.org (in case we propose to remove it).
> 
> The package will need an upload or an explanation for this action not to
> proceed.
> 
> Please do *not* upload a package just to get off this list - it won't
> help the package at all. Maintainers should be responsive and feel
> responsible for their packages without needing other people to force
> them to do work. Sometimes, finding a new maintainer or even removing
> the package completly from the archive is better for Debian's users. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marc
> 


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Message #26 received at 328847-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <marc@marcbrockschmidt.de>

To: Mark Johnson <mrj@debian.org>

Cc: 328847-quiet@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#328847: very old package, should this be removed?

Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:55:33 +0200

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retitle 328847 RM: saxon-catalog -- RoM; old, superseded
severity 328847 normal
reassign 328847 ftp.debian.org
thankskbye

Mark Johnson <mrj@debian.org> writes:
>> During the Debian QA meeting hold during Sept. 09th till 11th, we
>> decided that looking at packages that haven't been uploaded for a very
>> long time could cover up some QA problems.
>> I've done this now and your package showed up on the list. I propose
>> to remove it.
> As the maintainer, I agree that it should be removed. It has been 
> superceded by the libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java package, anyway.

OK, thanks for the info. I'm reassigning this bug to notify the
ftp-team.

Marc
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Message #31 received at 328847-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian Archive Maintenance <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 328847-close@bugs.debian.org

Cc: saxon-catalog@packages.debian.org, saxon-catalog@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#328847: fixed

Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:36:53 -0700

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

saxon-catalog | 20020210-0.2 | source, all

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive (ftp-master.debian.org) and will not propagate to any
mirrors (ftp.debian.org included) until the next cron.daily run at the
earliest.

Packages are never removed from testing by hand.  Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
problems.

Bugs which have been reported against this package are not automatically
removed from the Bug Tracking System.  Please check all open bugs and
close them or re-assign them to another package if the removed package
was superseded by another one.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 328847@bugs.debian.org.

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