Debian Bug report logs - #317007
please recommend linux-sound-base

Package: linux-2.6; Maintainer for linux-2.6 is Debian Kernel Team <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk>

Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 15:04:12 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

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From: Thomas Hood <jdthood@aglu.demon.nl>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:59:23 +0200
Package: kernel-source-2.6.11

If the user installs a 2.6 kernel then he or she should probably use ALSA.
To use ALSA, the user should have alsa-base installed.  Therefore it would
be appropriate if 2.6 kernel image packages Recommended or Suggested
"alsa" which is currently Provided by alsa-base (but in the future may be
a so-named metapackage).

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From: maximilian attems <debian@sternwelten.at>
To: Thomas Hood <jdthood@aglu.demon.nl>, 317007@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 04:25:18 +0200
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005, Thomas Hood wrote:

> Package: kernel-source-2.6.11
> 
> If the user installs a 2.6 kernel then he or she should probably use ALSA.
> To use ALSA, the user should have alsa-base installed.  Therefore it would
> be appropriate if 2.6 kernel image packages Recommended or Suggested
> "alsa" which is currently Provided by alsa-base (but in the future may be
> a so-named metapackage).

wasn't there a meta sound package?

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From: jdthood@aglu.demon.nl
To: 317007@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:49:39 GMT
> wasn't there a meta sound package?

I don't know.  Why do you ask?

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From: Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org>
To: 317007@bugs.debian.org, 317007-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:07:36 +0200
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On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 03:59:23PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Package: kernel-source-2.6.11
> 
> If the user installs a 2.6 kernel then he or she should probably use ALSA.
> To use ALSA, the user should have alsa-base installed.  Therefore it would
> be appropriate if 2.6 kernel image packages Recommended or Suggested
> "alsa" which is currently Provided by alsa-base (but in the future may be
> a so-named metapackage).

Please be more specific. s390 don't provide ALSA or even sound support.

Bastian

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From: jdthood@aglu.demon.nl
To: Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org>, 317007-quiet@bugs.debian.org, 317007@bugs.debian.org, 317007-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:18:43 GMT
Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 03:59:23PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > If the user installs a 2.6 kernel then he or she should probably use ALSA.
> > To use ALSA, the user should have alsa-base installed.  Therefore it would
> > be appropriate if 2.6 kernel image packages Recommended or Suggested
> > "alsa" which is currently Provided by alsa-base (but in the future may be
> > a so-named metapackage).
> 
> Please be more specific. s390 don't provide ALSA or even sound support.


Ah, yes; thanks for pointing that out.

Should any other arches be excluded?

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From: maximilian attems <debian@sternwelten.at>
To: jdthood@aglu.demon.nl, 317007@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 02:27:05 +0200
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005, jdthood@aglu.demon.nl wrote:

> > wasn't there a meta sound package?
> 
> I don't know.  Why do you ask?

irclogs/OPN/#debian-kernel.2005-03-15.log:22:09 <jdthood> I am preparing a sound-base package that will allow selection between ALSA and OSS.  Ideally this woul d be pulled in by k-i 2.6.  Any chance of getting a dependency added?

rembered your irc posting, so what's about the idea of that generic
package?

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From: Thomas Hood <jdthood@aglu.demon.nl>
To: 317007@bugs.debian.org
Cc: maximilian attems <debian@sternwelten.at>
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:32:24 +0200
maximilian attems wrote:

>irclogs/OPN/#debian-kernel.2005-03-15.log:22:09 <jdthood> I am preparing a sound-base package that will allow selection between ALSA and OSS.  Ideally this woul d be pulled in by k-i 2.6.  Any chance of getting a dependency added?
>
>rembered your irc posting, so what's about the idea of that generic
>package?
>
>  
>

Ah, I understand now.

The "linux-sound-base" package is now in unstable.  It would be quite 
appropriate for all k-i packages containing both OSS and ALSA modules 
(viz., all current k-i 2.6 packages) to Depend on linux-sound-base; it 
would also be appropriate for all other k-i packages to at least Suggest 
linux-sound-base.  This package gives the admin the ability (via 
dpkg-reconfigure) to disable either OSS or ALSA so that one does not 
conflict with the other.

If the admin chooses OSS then nothing further is required.  If the admin 
chooses ALSA then the alsa packages should also be installed.  ALSA is 
the preferred sound system for k-i 2.6, so I think it appropriate for 
the k-i 2.6 packages to Recommend or Suggest "alsa", a virtual package 
currently Provided by alsa-base (but possibly a metapackage in the future).

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From: Horms <horms@debian.org>
To: Thomas Hood <jdthood@aglu.demon.nl>, 317007@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#317007: Please Recommend "alsa"
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:41:17 +0900
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:32:24AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> maximilian attems wrote:
> 
> >irclogs/OPN/#debian-kernel.2005-03-15.log:22:09 <jdthood> I am preparing a 
> >sound-base package that will allow selection between ALSA and OSS.  
> >Ideally this woul d be pulled in by k-i 2.6.  Any chance of getting a 
> >dependency added?
> >
> >rembered your irc posting, so what's about the idea of that generic
> >package?
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> Ah, I understand now.
> 
> The "linux-sound-base" package is now in unstable.  It would be quite 
> appropriate for all k-i packages containing both OSS and ALSA modules 
> (viz., all current k-i 2.6 packages) to Depend on linux-sound-base; it 
> would also be appropriate for all other k-i packages to at least Suggest 
> linux-sound-base.  This package gives the admin the ability (via 
> dpkg-reconfigure) to disable either OSS or ALSA so that one does not 
> conflict with the other.
> 
> If the admin chooses OSS then nothing further is required.  If the admin 
> chooses ALSA then the alsa packages should also be installed.  ALSA is 
> the preferred sound system for k-i 2.6, so I think it appropriate for 
> the k-i 2.6 packages to Recommend or Suggest "alsa", a virtual package 
> currently Provided by alsa-base (but possibly a metapackage in the future).

Can these relationships be done in such a way that they exclude
architectures that don't have linux-sound-base or alsa-base?

-- 
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From: dann frazier <dannf@debian.org>
To: 317007@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: patch - need help with build system
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:25:29 -0700
retitle 317007 please recommend linux-sound-base
tag 317007 + patch
thanks

This patch against 2.6.18 that adds a recommends on linux-sound-base
for all image packages that have CONFIG_SOUND enabled.

The only issue of which I'm aware is that it also adds this recommends
for the xen-amd64 and xen-vserver-amd64 packages. These 2 packages
inherit their recommends from the generic amd64 image definition. I
tried overridding the generic definition with an empty "recommends:"
field, but the build system does not like empty package relationship
values.

This is not an issue for the i386 subarchs or the 'vserver' package
because they override the generic recommends with non-null values.

I'd appreciate suggestions on how to handle this - should the build
system support null values? Is there another way to add a recommends
that won't be inherited by the subarchs?

Index: debian/arch/arm/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/arm/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/arm/defines	(working copy)
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
 suggests: fdutils
 
 [footbridge_image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: nwutil
 
 [footbridge]
@@ -21,14 +22,17 @@
 [iop32x]
 class: IOP32x
 longclass: IOP32x based (Thecus N2100, etc)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [ixp4xx]
 class: IXP4xx
 longclass: IXP4xx based (Linksys NSLU2, etc)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [rpc]
 class: RiscPC
 longclass: Arcon RiscPC
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [s3c2410]
 class: Samsung S3C2410
Index: debian/arch/powerpc/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/powerpc/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/powerpc/defines	(working copy)
@@ -12,6 +12,9 @@
 subarches:
  vserver
 
+[image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
+
 [apus]
 depends: mkvmlinuz (>= 24)
 kernel-arch: ppc
Index: debian/arch/alpha/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/alpha/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/alpha/defines	(working copy)
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@
 subarches: vserver
 
 [image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: aboot, fdutils
 
 [alpha-generic]
Index: debian/arch/m68k/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/m68k/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/m68k/defines	(working copy)
@@ -19,9 +19,11 @@
 
 [amiga]
 class: Amiga
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [atari]
 class: Atari
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [bvme6000]
 class: BVM BVME4000 and BVME6000
@@ -40,6 +42,7 @@
 
 [q40]
 class: Q40 and Q60
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [sun3]
 class: sun3
Index: debian/arch/hppa/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/hppa/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/hppa/defines	(working copy)
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
 kernel-header-dirs: parisc
 
 [image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: palo
 
 [parisc]
Index: debian/arch/i386/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/i386/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/i386/defines	(working copy)
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
 
 [image]
 conflicts: grub (<= 0.95+cvs20040624-17)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: grub (>= 0.97-3) | lilo (>= 19.1)
 
 [486]
Index: debian/arch/mipsel/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/mipsel/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/mipsel/defines	(working copy)
@@ -15,23 +15,28 @@
 [r5k-cobalt]
 class: Cobalt
 longclass: Cobalt (Qube, RaQ, Qube2, RaQ2)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [sb1-bcm91250a]
 class: BCM91250A
 longclass: Broadcom BCM91250A (aka SWARM)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [sb1a-bcm91480b]
 class: BCM91480B
 longclass: Broadcom BCM91480B (aka BigSur)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [r3k-kn02]
 class: R3000 based DECstation
 longclass: R3000 based DECstations with KN02 mainboard, such as the DECstation 5000/1xx series with xx=20,25,33 and the DECstation 5000/240
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [r4k-kn04]
 class: R4x00 based DECstation
 longclass: R4x00 based DECstations with KN04 mainboard, such as the DECstation 5000/150, the
  Personal DECstation 5000/50 and the DECstation 5000/260
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [qemu]
 class: QEMU
Index: debian/arch/ia64/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/ia64/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/ia64/defines	(working copy)
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
 kernel-header-dirs: ia64
 
 [image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: elilo, fdutils
 
 [itanium]
Index: debian/arch/mips/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/mips/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/mips/defines	(working copy)
@@ -14,18 +14,22 @@
 [r4k-ip22]
 class: SGI IP22
 longclass: SGI IP22 (Indy, Indigo2)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [r5k-ip32]
 class: SGI IP32
 longclass: SGI IP32 (O2)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [sb1-bcm91250a]
 class: BCM91250A
 longclass: Broadcom BCM91250A (aka SWARM)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [sb1a-bcm91480b]
 class: BCM91480B
 longclass: Broadcom BCM91480B (aka BigSur)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [qemu]
 class: QEMU
Index: debian/arch/sparc/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/sparc/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/sparc/defines	(working copy)
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
  vserver
 
 [image]
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 suggests: silo, fdutils
 
 [sparc32]
Index: debian/arch/amd64/defines
===================================================================
--- debian/arch/amd64/defines	(revision 8186)
+++ debian/arch/amd64/defines	(working copy)
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
 conflicts: grub (<= 0.95+cvs20040624-17)
 depends: e2fsprogs (>= 1.35-7)
 suggests: grub (>= 0.97-3) | lilo (>= 19.1)
+recommends: linux-sound-base
 
 [amd64]
 class: AMD64

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From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: 317007-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RE: please recommend linux-sound-base
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 20:40:09 +0200
> Package: kernel-source-2.6.11

> If the user installs a 2.6 kernel then he or she should probably use ALSA.
> To use ALSA, the user should have alsa-base installed. 

debian installer tasks take care to install alsa to all new installs
that need it aka all desktop tasks.

with apt installing per default recommends aboves could be
rephrased to suggests, but there seem to be no user asking for it.
thus closing in linux-2.6 bug pre lenny release bug cleanup

user debootstraping their debian usualy know what they want, so..

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