Debian Bug report logs - #305119
RM: cyrus-sasl -- Outdated and deprecated

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:14:14 -0300

Package: ftp.debian.org
Severity: grave
Justification: the package is useless

Please remove cyrus-sasl and all its binary packages from sid.

After NMUing it a lot of times, and giving both the public (via email to
d-devel and d-user) and the almost-MIA maintainer more than 3 months to
speak up against its removal, I am living up to the title of
maintainer-in-charge-because-nobody-else-is-doing-anything-about-it, and
requesting that the final blow be dealt to it.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Message #10 received at 305119@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>

To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>, 305119@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#305119: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:30:06 -0700

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 10:14:14PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Package: ftp.debian.org
> Severity: grave
> Justification: the package is useless

> Please remove cyrus-sasl and all its binary packages from sid.

> After NMUing it a lot of times, and giving both the public (via email to
> d-devel and d-user) and the almost-MIA maintainer more than 3 months to
> speak up against its removal, I am living up to the title of
> maintainer-in-charge-because-nobody-else-is-doing-anything-about-it, and
> requesting that the final blow be dealt to it.

Release team note: this package is being removed from testing due to RC bug
#212307.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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Message #17 received at 305119@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>, 305119@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Debian Bugs Control Bot <control@bugs.debian.org>, Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#305119: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:54:55 +0200

retitle 305119 RM: cyrus-sasl -- Outdated and deprecated
tags 305119 moreinfo
thanks

On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 10:14:14PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Please remove cyrus-sasl and all its binary packages from sid.
> 
> After NMUing it a lot of times, and giving both the public (via email to
> d-devel and d-user) and the almost-MIA maintainer more than 3 months to
> speak up against its removal, I am living up to the title of
> maintainer-in-charge-because-nobody-else-is-doing-anything-about-it, and
> requesting that the final blow be dealt to it.

As the person doing MIA, I note that the maintainer isn't even in the
MIA database. So apparantly nobody inquired about this before on QA or
to mia@qa.debian.org (well, actually someone did in 2003, but then he
replied at least).

Dima, please comment on this removal request; do you agree to have this
package removed?

--Jeroen

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http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl

Message #26 received at 305119@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>

To: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

Cc: 305119@bugs.debian.org, Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#305119: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:28:45 -0300

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> As the person doing MIA, I note that the maintainer isn't even in the
> MIA database. So apparantly nobody inquired about this before on QA or

Because dima isn't MIA per se, he is mostly MIA.  From experience, Dima
doesn't have time to deal with SASL unless something very weird happens, but
he DOES show up from time to time.

> Dima, please comment on this removal request; do you agree to have this
> package removed?

Dima, please reply soon.  I did ask you a lot of time ago, and got no reply.
Nobody from d-d or d-u@lists.d.o spoke up against removing old sasl, either.

I am willing to help with new sasl, but we really, really have no good
reasons I can see for keeping old SASL in Debian, and I am *not* willing to
help to keep it secure.  Heck, not even qmail uses old sasl anymore, so we
don't even have that aggravating reason to keep it around anymore...

Upstream has deprecated this old version of SASL more than 3 years ago.  It
is about time we let it rest in peace.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Message #31 received at 305119@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>

To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>

Cc: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>, 305119@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#305119: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:07:03 +0100

Henrique,

You wrote:

> Because dima isn't MIA per se, he is mostly MIA.  From experience, Dima
> doesn't have time to deal with SASL unless something very weird happens, but
> he DOES show up from time to time.

You are right, I don't have time now to maintain the SASL package
properly. I'm going to offer it for adoption soon (unless you want to
take over). As for this bug, I agree, cyrus-sasl should be removed.

Regards,
Dima.

Message #36 received at 305119@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>

To: Dima Barsky <dima@debian.org>

Cc: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>, 305119@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#305119: RM: cyrus-sasl/sid -- Outdated, deprecated, and finally not needed anymore

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:35:06 -0300

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Dima Barsky wrote:
> You are right, I don't have time now to maintain the SASL package
> properly. I'm going to offer it for adoption soon (unless you want to
> take over). As for this bug, I agree, cyrus-sasl should be removed.

Ok.  I suggest that the SASL packages should be maintained by a team in
Alioth (I don't mind being part of the team), but I don't think I have all
the time maintaining SASL properly requires, otherwise I would have asked
to officially adopt it already...

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Message #41 received at 305119-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian Archive Maintenance <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 305119-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#305119: fixed

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:57:26 -0400

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

cyrus-sasl | 1.5.28-6.4 | source
libsasl-dev | 1.5.27-3.5 | hurd-i386
libsasl-dev | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
libsasl-digestmd5 | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
libsasl-gssapi-heimdal | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
libsasl-modules-plain | 1.5.27-3.5 | hurd-i386
libsasl-modules-plain | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
  libsasl7 | 1.5.27-3.5 | hurd-i386
  libsasl7 | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
  sasl-bin | 1.5.27-3.5 | hurd-i386
  sasl-bin | 1.5.28-6.4 | alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive (ftp-master.debian.org) and will not propagate to any
mirrors (ftp.debian.org included) until the next cron.daily run at the
earliest.

Packages are never removed from testing by hand.  Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
problems.

Bugs which have been reported against this package are not automatically
removed from the Bug Tracking System.  Please check all open bugs and
close them or re-assign them to another package if the removed package
was superseded by another one.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
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