Debian Bug report logs - #304266
ITP: sdate -- never ending september date

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Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>

Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:48:02 UTC

Owned by: christoph berg <cb@df7cb.de>

Severity: wishlist

Fixed in version sdate/0.2

Done: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Message #3 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 02:40:25 +0200
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>

* Package name    : sdate
  Version         : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
* URL             : http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/
* License         : GPL
  Description     : never ending september date

 This package wraps the libc localtime() and gmtime() functions to output the
 eternal september 1993 date.
 .
 sdate works like fakeroot (on which its code is based) by setting LD_PRELOAD
 to a wrapper library.
 .
  * http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/
  * http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html

Christoph
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Acknowledgement sent to Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>, christoph berg <cb@df7cb.de>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #8 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de>
To: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:54:14 +0200
Moin Christoph!
Christoph Berg schrieb am Dienstag, den 12. April 2005:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
> 
> * Package name    : sdate
>   Version         : 0.1
>   Upstream Author : Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
> * URL             : http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/
> * License         : GPL
>   Description     : never ending september date
> 
>  This package wraps the libc localtime() and gmtime() functions to output the

There is... 
datefudge - Fake the system date

AFAICS your package provides subset of its features so there is no point
in having a separate package.

Regards,
Eduard.
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Acknowledgement sent to Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>, christoph berg <cb@df7cb.de>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #13 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
To: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>, 304266@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:15:57 +0200
Le mardi 12 avril 2005 à 02:40 +0200, Christoph Berg a écrit :
>   Description     : never ending september date
> 
>  This package wraps the libc localtime() and gmtime() functions to output the
>  eternal september 1993 date.
>  .
>  sdate works like fakeroot (on which its code is based) by setting LD_PRELOAD
>  to a wrapper library.
>  .
>   * http://www.df7cb.de/projects/sdate/
>   * http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html

Is there any real-life use for this program?
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Message #16 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
To: Eduard Bloch <edi@gmx.de>, 304266@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:58:15 +0200
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Re: Eduard Bloch in <20050412065414.GA30819@debian>
> >  This package wraps the libc localtime() and gmtime() functions to output the
> 
> There is... 
> datefudge - Fake the system date
> 
> AFAICS your package provides subset of its features so there is no point
> in having a separate package.

No, datefudge wraps time(2) and gettimeofday(2).

Christoph
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Message #19 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
To: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Cc: 304266@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:59:08 +0200
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Re: Josselin Mouette in <1113290157.24174.1.camel@silicium.ccc.cea.fr>
> >   Description     : never ending september date
> > 
> >  This package wraps the libc localtime() and gmtime() functions to output the
> >  eternal september 1993 date.
> 
> Is there any real-life use for this program?

No.

Christoph
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Acknowledgement sent to sean finney <seanius@debian.org>:
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Message #24 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: sean finney <seanius@debian.org>
To: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>, 304266@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:54:46 -0400
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:59:08PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> > Is there any real-life use for this program?
> 
> No.

then please don't put it in debian.  you can debianize it and host it
on your web page (or send it to esr) which will still serve its novelty
purpose without adding yet another useless package to rot in the archives


	sean

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Message #29 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net>
Cc: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>, 304266@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:01:36 -0400
Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Is there any real-life use for this program?

Is there any real-life use for filters?

/usr/games/jethro
/usr/games/kraut
/usr/games/cockney
/usr/games/jive
/usr/games/nyc
/usr/games/ken
/usr/games/ky00te
/usr/games/newspeak
/usr/games/eleet
/usr/games/b1ff
/usr/games/chef
/usr/games/jibberish
/usr/games/upside-down
/usr/games/rasterman
/usr/games/studly
/usr/games/fudd
/usr/games/censor
/usr/games/spammer
/usr/games/uniencode

Though, rather than having a seperate package for this, it'd probably be 
better to add it to some other package of small toys.



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Message #32 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 304266@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:10:24 +0200
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Re: sean finney in <20050412115446.GA22424@seanius.net>
> > > Is there any real-life use for this program?
> > 
> > No.
> 
> then please don't put it in debian.

Which of the other games in Debian do serve a purpose?

Christoph
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Acknowledgement sent to Ross Burton <ross@burtonini.com>:
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Message #37 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ross Burton <ross@burtonini.com>
To: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 304266@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:52:55 +0100
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 17:10 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: sean finney in <20050412115446.GA22424@seanius.net>
> > > > Is there any real-life use for this program?
> > > 
> > > No.
> > 
> > then please don't put it in debian.
> 
> Which of the other games in Debian do serve a purpose?

Games serve a purpose: they entertain the user. What is the purpose of
sdate?

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Acknowledgement sent to Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>:
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Message #42 received at 304266@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Cc: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>, 304266@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 23:11:47 +0200
* Josselin Mouette:

> Is there any real-life use for this program?

No, especially since September ended a couple of months ago:

<http://help.channels.aol.com/SearchData/kjump.adp?catId=2&sCId=456&sSCId=4202&articleId=218626>



Reply sent to Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>:
You have taken responsibility. (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #47 received at 304266-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
To: 304266-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#304266: fixed in sdate 0.2
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 05:40:23 -0400
Source: sdate
Source-Version: 0.2

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
sdate, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

sdate_0.2.dsc
  to pool/main/s/sdate/sdate_0.2.dsc
sdate_0.2.tar.gz
  to pool/main/s/sdate/sdate_0.2.tar.gz
sdate_0.2_i386.deb
  to pool/main/s/sdate/sdate_0.2_i386.deb
sdate_0.2_powerpc.deb
  to pool/main/s/sdate/sdate_0.2_powerpc.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 304266@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de> (supplier of updated sdate package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@debian.org)


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Format: 1.7
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:07:48 +0200
Source: sdate
Binary: sdate
Architecture: i386 powerpc source 
Version: 0.2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
Changed-By: Christoph Berg <cb@df7cb.de>
Description: 
 sdate      - never ending september date
Closes: 304266
Changes: 
 sdate (0.2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed algorithm to work independently of timezone.
   * First Debian upload (Closes: #304266).
   * Wrote manpage.
   * Added lintian and linda overrides.
 .
 sdate (0.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial version.
   * Sources copied from fakeroot 1.1.2.
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