Debian Bug report logs - #298759
www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated

Package: www.debian.org; Maintainer for www.debian.org is Debian WWW Team <debian-www@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: "Silas S. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:18:06 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy and others <debian-www@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#298759; Package www.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Silas S. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:07:06 +0000
Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2005-03-09
Severity: normal

The page http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian contains a
paragraph labelled "Good system security" which begins
"Windows 95 has essentially no security."  True, but
mentioning Windows 95 first makes it seem rather dated
(someone may conclude that the arguments are no longer
relevant because they're talking about a 10-year-old OS).
Can this paragraph be updated?


-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux beethoven 2.4.23 #19 Thu Feb 26 17:33:46 GMT 2004 i686
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB




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Bug#298759; Package www.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #10 received at 298759@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
To: debian-project@lists.debian.org
Cc: 298759@bugs.debian.org
Subject: [ssb22@cam.ac.uk: Bug#298759: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated]
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:35:39 +0100
Hi.

Not entirely sure but I think this topic would on-topic in this list.
Perhaps someone here is interested in looking over this page and
suggesting some updates?

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Subject: Bug#298759: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated
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From: "Silas S. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
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Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2005-03-09
Severity: normal

The page http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian contains a
paragraph labelled "Good system security" which begins
"Windows 95 has essentially no security."  True, but
mentioning Windows 95 first makes it seem rather dated
(someone may conclude that the arguments are no longer
relevant because they're talking about a 10-year-old OS).
Can this paragraph be updated?

----- End forwarded message -----

Gruesse,
-- 
Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
www: http://www.djpig.de/



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian WWW Team <debian-www@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#298759; Package www.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Florian Ludwig <dino@php4fun.de>:
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Message #15 received at 298759@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Florian Ludwig <dino@php4fun.de>
To: 298759@bugs.debian.org
Subject: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 16:04:14 +0200
Hi,

it looks okay to me cause the second sentence "NT and XP have shown
themselves to be very bad also". Although if we mention windows 95 we
should also mention 98 instead of skipping it.

Otherwise i would mark this bug as "will not fixed" if nobody disagree.

greetings,
Florian Ludwig



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian WWW Team <debian-www@lists.debian.org>:
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Acknowledgement sent to "Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)" <felipe@cathedrallabs.org>:
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Message #20 received at 298759@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)" <felipe@cathedrallabs.org>
To: 298759@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#298759: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:32:42 -0300
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On 05/27/2006 11:04 AM, Florian Ludwig wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it looks okay to me cause the second sentence "NT and XP have shown
> themselves to be very bad also". Although if we mention windows 95 we
> should also mention 98 instead of skipping it.
> 
> Otherwise i would mark this bug as "will not fixed" if nobody disagree.
> 
> greetings,
> Florian Ludwig

	Maybe we could rephrase the sentence for something like:

	Windows 95 has essentially no security. Later versions (including
	Windows 98/Me) and more recent ones (NT and XP) have shown
	themselves to be very bad also.


	Probably it will need some review because I'm a non-native speaker.
	Kind regards,

- --
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
"Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom!"
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian WWW Team <debian-www@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#298759; Package www.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org>:
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Message #25 received at 298759@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org>
To: "Silas S\. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>, 298759@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#298759: www.debian.org: "Why Debian" page contains paragraph that seems dated
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:21:43 +0200
Hi Silas!

You wrote:

> The page http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian contains a
> paragraph labelled "Good system security" which begins
> "Windows 95 has essentially no security."  True, but
> mentioning Windows 95 first makes it seem rather dated
> (someone may conclude that the arguments are no longer
> relevant because they're talking about a 10-year-old OS).
> Can this paragraph be updated?

I've rewritte the paragraph, emphasizing Debian's stengths, rather than
bashing Microsoft (which imo makes us look bad).
The changes shoudl be online in a few hours.

Thanks for reporting this!.
Bas.

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