Debian Bug report logs - #297431
RM: lw-pro-installer -- RoQA; NPOASR

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Kevin M. Rosenberg" <kmr@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: O: lw-pro-installer - Installer for Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp System

Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:18:38 -0700

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal


I intended to orphan lw-pro-installer

 This package installs the Professional or Enterprise edition of
 Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI
 Common Lisp. Lispworks contains a Lisp integrated develpment
 environment and a Lisp compiler.
 .
 This package does not contain the Lispworks program. The Professional
 and Enterprises versions must be purchased from Xanalys. This package
 will install Lispworks onto your Debian system. A major advantage of
 using this package to install Lispworks is that this package provides
 Common Lisp Controller integration.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Message #14 received at 297431@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

To: "Kevin M. Rosenberg" <kmr@debian.org>, 297431@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: O: lw-pro-installer - Installer for Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp System

Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:19:00 +0200

On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:18:38PM -0700, Kevin M. Rosenberg wrote:
> I intended to orphan lw-pro-installer

Nobody so far has shown interest, and therefore this package has been
marked for removal. However, cl-reversi-clim does build-depend on this
package, so it cannot be removed without breaking cl-reversi-clim.

What to do? You did not orphan cl-reversi-clim, so I assume you want to
keep maintaining it. Its build-dependency is unmaintained though.

Please let me hear your thoughts about this.
 
Thanks,
--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
jeroen@wolffelaar.nl
http://jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl

Message #19 received at 297431@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Kevin Rosenberg <kevin@rosenberg.net>

To: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

Cc: "Kevin M. Rosenberg" <kmr@debian.org>, 297431@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: O: lw-pro-installer - Installer for Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp System

Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:46:51 -0600

Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Nobody so far has shown interest, and therefore this package has been
> marked for removal. However, cl-reversi-clim does build-depend on this
> package, so it cannot be removed without breaking cl-reversi-clim.

Interesting, I hadn't considered that consequence.

> What to do? You did not orphan cl-reversi-clim, so I assume you want to
> keep maintaining it. Its build-dependency is unmaintained though.

cl-reversi-clim is a binary DFSG-game built with the commercial version of
Lispworks. It's a binary upload that I know several people have
enjoyed playing, but I don't think anyone has built a binary for it
but me.

> Please let me hear your thoughts about this.

I'd like to continue maintaining cl-reversi-clim. However, if its
build-dependency must be in the archive, and if its build dependency
must be removed, then you may remove cl-reversi-clim as well.

-- 
Kevin Rosenberg
kevin@rosenberg.net

Message #24 received at 297431@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

To: Kevin Rosenberg <kevin@rosenberg.net>

Cc: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>, "Kevin M. Rosenberg" <kmr@debian.org>, 297431@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: O: lw-pro-installer - Installer for Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp System

Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 19:54:53 +0200

On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:46:51AM -0600, Kevin Rosenberg wrote:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > What to do? You did not orphan cl-reversi-clim, so I assume you want to
> > keep maintaining it. Its build-dependency is unmaintained though.
> 
> cl-reversi-clim is a binary DFSG-game built with the commercial version of
> Lispworks. It's a binary upload that I know several people have
> enjoyed playing, but I don't think anyone has built a binary for it
> but me.

I see
 
> > Please let me hear your thoughts about this.
> 
> I'd like to continue maintaining cl-reversi-clim. However, if its
> build-dependency must be in the archive, and if its build dependency
> must be removed, then you may remove cl-reversi-clim as well.

cl-reversi-clim is contrib, so it isn't really required to have the
build-dependencies available, although it'd be convenient. Since this is
an installer package, I assume one can do without, by just downloading
the binary distribution. OTOH, this way of course it's hard for anyone
to help fixing your package if you become unavailable due to vacancy or
whatever. Because there is no requirement either way, but the installer
package is nice to keep for this game, any possibility you can consider
to maintain it nonetheless, possibly having an request for adoption
filed to tell people who want to take over that they're invited? We
could also just leave it orphaned, at least for now...

It's mostly up to you, you know those packages much better than I do. I
can't really properly judge on it.

Thanks!
--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl

Message #29 received at 297431@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Kevin Rosenberg <kevin@rosenberg.net>

To: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

Cc: "Kevin M. Rosenberg" <kmr@debian.org>, 297431@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: O: lw-pro-installer - Installer for Xanalys' Lispworks ANSI Common Lisp System

Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:29:30 -0600

Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> cl-reversi-clim is contrib, so it isn't really required to have the
> build-dependencies available, although it'd be convenient. Since this is
> an installer package, I assume one can do without, by just downloading
> the binary distribution. OTOH, this way of course it's hard for anyone
> to help fixing your package if you become unavailable due to vacancy or
> whatever. Because there is no requirement either way, but the installer
> package is nice to keep for this game, any possibility you can consider
> to maintain it nonetheless, possibly having an request for adoption
> filed to tell people who want to take over that they're invited? We
> could also just leave it orphaned, at least for now...

Thanks for the additional thoughts. Yes, I'll go ahead and upload a
new version of lw-pro-installer with myself as the maintainer and file
a RFA for it as well.

> It's mostly up to you, you know those packages much better than I do. I
> can't really properly judge on it.

Very good, thanks for your help with the QA!

-- 
Kevin Rosenberg
kevin@rosenberg.net

Message #36 received at 297431-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian Archive Maintenance <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 297431-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Removed lw-pro-installer from unstable

Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:44:00 -0400

We believe that the request you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

lw-pro-installer |   4.2.0.29 | source, i386

Reason: RoQA; NPOASR

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
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