Debian Bug report logs - #293103
ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:44:49 +0900

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name    : atokx2
  Version         : 17.0-2.0
  Upstream Author : JUSTSYSTEM Corporation
* URL or Web page : http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html
* License         : non-free (commercial license)
  Description     : Kana-Kanji translation system ATOKX for Linux (Installer)

 This package is installer to install "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system.
 This package does not contain "ATOK for Linux" software.  You have to
 buy it to use "ATOK for Linux".
 
 "ATOK for Linux" is released by JUSTSYSTEM Corporation. It is commercial
 software and does not allow redistribution.

Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: NOKUBI Takatsugu <knok@daionet.gr.jp>

To: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>, 293103@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:00:41 +0900

At Tue,  1 Feb 2005 14:44:49 +0900,
Taku YASUI wrote:
> * Package name    : atokx2
>   Version         : 17.0-2.0
>   Upstream Author : JUSTSYSTEM Corporation
> * URL or Web page : http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html
> * License         : non-free (commercial license)
>   Description     : Kana-Kanji translation system ATOKX for Linux (Installer)
> 
>  This package is installer to install "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system.

The installer package also non-free? I think it would be better to be
a contrib package rather than non-free.
-- 
NOKUBI Takatsugu
E-mail: knok@daionet.gr.jp
	knok@namazu.org / knok@debian.org

Message #20 received at 293103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

To: NOKUBI Takatsugu <knok@daionet.gr.jp>

Cc: 293103@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:41:55 +0900

NOKUBI Takatsugu wrote:
> The installer package also non-free? I think it would be better to be
> a contrib package rather than non-free.

No.  The section of this package is "contrib/utils".
And the license of installer will be free (GPL?).

Message #25 received at 293103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

To: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>, 293103@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 21:41:13 +0100

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 02:44:49PM +0900, Taku YASUI wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name    : atokx2
>   Version         : 17.0-2.0
>   Upstream Author : JUSTSYSTEM Corporation
> * URL or Web page : http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html
> * License         : non-free (commercial license)
>   Description     : Kana-Kanji translation system ATOKX for Linux (Installer)
> 
>  This package is installer to install "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system.
>  This package does not contain "ATOK for Linux" software.  You have to
>  buy it to use "ATOK for Linux".
>  
>  "ATOK for Linux" is released by JUSTSYSTEM Corporation. It is commercial
>  software and does not allow redistribution.

I assume you wrote installer per your mesage in japanese elsewere.  The
installer itself is licensed as a free software, I assume.  If so, I do
not think the upstream of installer is JUSTSYSTEM Corporation.  (Their
distribution support list only includes RPM based distributions.)

Since this depends on non-free software, this installer will be in
"contrib".

May I suggest to update this info along following:

* Package name    : atokx2
  Version         : 17.0-2.0
  Upstream Author : Your name
* URL or Web page : Your installer's web location
* License         : GPL2/MIT/... whatever FLOSS
  Description     : Installer for ATOKX Japanese input method
   This package helps users to install popular commercial non-free
   Japanese input method "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system. You have to
   buy it to use this installer.
   .
   "ATOK for Linux" is available from JUSTSYSTEM Corporation distributed
   from: http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html
-----------------------------

By the way, can you tell us the functionality of this ATOK?

Does it support XIM and/or IIIF
Does it support GTK input method
Does it support QT input method
...

PS: I have not used ATOK for good long time.  HP200LX version was the
last one I bought...

Message #30 received at 293103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: NOKUBI Takatsugu <knok@daionet.gr.jp>

To: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

Cc: NOKUBI Takatsugu <knok@daionet.gr.jp>, 293103@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:27:11 +0900

At Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:41:55 +0900,
Taku YASUI wrote:
> > The installer package also non-free? I think it would be better to be
> > a contrib package rather than non-free.
> 
> No.  The section of this package is "contrib/utils".
> And the license of installer will be free (GPL?).

I think so. The installer package isn't linked against ATOKX, so it
would be licensed under GPL.
-- 
NOKUBI Takatsugu
E-mail: knok@daionet.gr.jp
	knok@namazu.org / knok@debian.org

Message #35 received at 293103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

To: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

Cc: 293103@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 01:12:39 +0900

Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I assume you wrote installer per your mesage in japanese elsewere.  The
> installer itself is licensed as a free software, I assume.  If so, I do
> not think the upstream of installer is JUSTSYSTEM Corporation.  (Their
> distribution support list only includes RPM based distributions.)

Yes, you are right!  I wrote this package by myself.
So, The upstream author should be me and I have to decide the License
of this package.

> May I suggest to update this info along following:
:
>   Description     : Installer for ATOKX Japanese input method

I think that the description of this package shuold not be as yours.
Because I guess the user installed atokx2 will think "I install atokx2,
not installer!".  So the description should be as "This is atokx2".
Therefore, I decide the description as the subject of ITP mail.

However, lots of installer packages are "Installer for foobar ...".
So, I change the desctiption as follows.

The new information of this package:

* Package name    : atokx2
  Version         : 17.0-2.0-1.0
  Upstream Author : Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>
* URL or Web page : No web pages
* License         : GPL2 or later
  Description     : Installer for "ATOK for Linux" Japanese input method
   This package helps users to install popular commercial non-free
   Japanese input method "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system. You have to
   buy it to use this installer.
   .
   "ATOK for Linux" is available from JUSTSYSTEM Corporation.  You
   can get the information about it from
   http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html

> By the way, can you tell us the functionality of this ATOK?
> 
> Does it support XIM and/or IIIF

Yes.  It support IIIMF.
You can use it as XIM by iiimf-htt-xbe.

> Does it support GTK input method

Yes.  It is by iiimgcf.

> Does it support QT input method

No.  When you use QT application, you can use it by XIM.

Message #40 received at 293103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

To: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

Cc: 293103@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:10:18 +0100

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 01:12:39AM +0900, Taku YASUI wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >May I suggest to update this info along following:

"along" means you do not need to follow exactly what I wrote. I knew
some sloppiness over the ATOK product name.

> The new information of this package:
> 
> * Package name    : atokx2
>   Version         : 17.0-2.0-1.0
>   Upstream Author : Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>
> * URL or Web page : No web pages
> * License         : GPL2 or later
>   Description     : Installer for "ATOK for Linux" Japanese input method
>    This package helps users to install popular commercial non-free
>    Japanese input method "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system. You have to
>    buy it to use this installer.
>    .
>    "ATOK for Linux" is available from JUSTSYSTEM Corporation.  You
>    can get the information about it from
>    http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html

Sounds much better for me.  This captures basic facts.

> >By the way, can you tell us the functionality of this ATOK?
> >
> >Does it support XIM and/or IIIF
> 
> Yes.  It support IIIMF.
> You can use it as XIM by iiimf-htt-xbe.
> 
> >Does it support GTK input method
> 
> Yes.  It is by iiimgcf.
> 
> >Does it support QT input method
> 
> No.  When you use QT application, you can use it by XIM.

Please add these info to README.Debian explaining to non Japanese person
installing.

Message #45 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>

To: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

Cc: 293103@bugs.debian.org, Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#293103: ITP: atokx2 -- Kana-Kanji translation system ATOK for Linux (Installer)

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:35:48 +0100

Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp> writes:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name    : atokx2
>   Version         : 17.0-2.0
>   Upstream Author : JUSTSYSTEM Corporation
> * URL or Web page : http://www.justsystem.co.jp/linux/atok.html
> * License         : non-free (commercial license)
>   Description     : Kana-Kanji translation system ATOKX for Linux (Installer)
>
>  This package is installer to install "ATOK for Linux" to Debian system.
>
I'd rephrase that to "This package is installer for "ATOK for
Linux"". That it is for Debian systems is implied by its presence as a
package.

>  This package does not contain "ATOK for Linux" software.  You have to
>  buy it to use "ATOK for Linux".
>  
>  "ATOK for Linux" is released by JUSTSYSTEM Corporation. It is commercial
>  software and does not allow redistribution.
>

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Message #55 received at 293103-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>

To: 293103-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#293103: fixed in atokx2 17.0-2.0-1

Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:44:37 -0400

Source: atokx2
Source-Version: 17.0-2.0-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
atokx2, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

atokx2_17.0-2.0-1.dsc
  to pool/contrib/a/atokx2/atokx2_17.0-2.0-1.dsc
atokx2_17.0-2.0-1.tar.gz
  to pool/contrib/a/atokx2/atokx2_17.0-2.0-1.tar.gz
atokx2_17.0-2.0-1_i386.deb
  to pool/contrib/a/atokx2/atokx2_17.0-2.0-1_i386.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 293103@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp> (supplier of updated atokx2 package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:10:11 +0900
Source: atokx2
Binary: atokx2
Architecture: source i386
Version: 17.0-2.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>
Changed-By: Taku YASUI <tach@debian.or.jp>
Description: 
 atokx2     - Installer for "ATOK for Linux" Japanese input method
Closes: 293103
Changes: 
 atokx2 (17.0-2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Upload to ftp-master
     (closes: #293103)
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