Debian Bug report logs - #276143
altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr)

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Kimmo Teräväinen <kimmo.teravainen@pp.inet.fi>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr)

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:33:05 +0300

Package: xlibs
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 0
Severity: normal

I am referring the bug 275973 and declaring new one because I don't know how 
to reopen bug reports. Xkb option "altwin:meta_win" breaks AltGr (right alt) 
default functionality on my (finnish) keyboard.


$ setxkbmap -option -option altwin:meta_win
...causes maps both win keys to work as meta, but (suprisingly) AltGr no 
longer work as 3rd level modifier.

$ setxkbmap -option
...clears the options and restores AltGr functionality.

$ setxkbmap -option -option altwin:left_meta_win
...maps meta into left win key and does not break AltGr functionality, and can 
be used as a workaround.


My keyboard settings (in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4)
Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "keyboard"
        Option          "CoreKeyboard"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xfree86"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "fi"
        Option         "XkbOptions"    "altwin:meta_win"
EndSection

-- 
Kimmo Teräväinen

Message #10 received at 276143-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)

To: 276143-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr)

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:07:12 +0200

On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 12:33:05PM +0300, Kimmo Teräväinen wrote:
> Package: xlibs
> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 0
> Severity: normal
> 
> I am referring the bug 275973 and declaring new one because I don't know how 
> to reopen bug reports. Xkb option "altwin:meta_win" breaks AltGr (right alt) 
> default functionality on my (finnish) keyboard.

This is the normal behavior.

> $ setxkbmap -option -option altwin:left_meta_win
> ...maps meta into left win key and does not break AltGr functionality, and can 
> be used as a workaround.

This is not a workaround, but the right settings for your needs if you
do not want your Right Alt key to be mapped to Meta.
I am closing this bug, thanks for your report.

Denis

Message #15 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Kimmo Teräväinen <kimmo.teravainen@pp.inet.fi>

To: 276143@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#276143 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr))

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:34:41 +0300

barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier) wrote:
> This is the normal behavior.

I can't believe it is normal behavior. Or there is documention problem.

The default X11/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst says
  altwin:meta_win       Meta is mapped to the Win-keys.

I was relying on this information. (The same info is present in KDE-keyboard 
layout setting). It does not indicate that this option changes the right alt 
behavior. Also I want to point out that option behavior were (IMHO) correct 
in previous versions of xlibs (version 4.3.0-dfsg.1-7). 

> > $ setxkbmap -option -option altwin:left_meta_win
> This is not a workaround, but the right settings for your needs if you
> do not want your Right Alt key to be mapped to Meta.
> I am closing this bug, thanks for your report.

For me this is still a workaround. I can't use right win key as a meta key. 
But at least I have meta key and altgr at my disposal.


I'm sorry if I am referring the wrong documention in this matter. It is hard 
to find information what those options really do.
-- 
Kimmo Teräväinen

Message #20 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)

To: Kimmo Teräväinen <kimmo.teravainen@pp.inet.fi>, 276143@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#276143: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr))

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:13:53 +0200

reopen 276143
thanks

On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 03:34:41PM +0300, Kimmo Teräväinen wrote:
> barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier) wrote:
> > This is the normal behavior.
> 
> I can't believe it is normal behavior. Or there is documention problem.

I did not carefully read your bugreport, sorry.
It is now reopened.

Denis

Message #27 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)

To: Kimmo Teräväinen <kimmo.teravainen@pp.inet.fi>, 276143@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr)

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:35:45 +0200

On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 03:34:41PM +0300, Kimmo Teräväinen wrote:
[...]
> The default X11/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst says
>   altwin:meta_win       Meta is mapped to the Win-keys.
> 
> I was relying on this information. (The same info is present in KDE-keyboard 
> layout setting). It does not indicate that this option changes the right alt 
> behavior. Also I want to point out that option behavior were (IMHO) correct 
> in previous versions of xlibs (version 4.3.0-dfsg.1-7). 

Unfortunately previous behavior broke other stuff.  This issue is very
tricky and won't get fixed in sarge, your best option is to specify
lv3:ralt_switch with altwin:meta_win.  But it does not work at the
moment, I will make minor changes to let it work soon.

Denis

Message #36 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jean-Christophe Dubacq <jcdubacq1@free.fr>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <276143@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: xkb-data: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr)

Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 18:32:15 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Package: xkb-data
Version: 0.8-5
Followup-For: Bug #276143

I have a patch that modifies altwin:meta_win to leave Right-Alt
untouched. It also gives explanation to what happens to Left-Alt key.

------ patch included below ------


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (499, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-1-686
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

-- no debconf information

[keyboard.patch (text/plain, attachment)]

Message #41 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Lionel VAUX <lionel.vaux@laposte.net>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <276143@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#276143: Still present (Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr))

Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:33:33 +0200

Package: xkb-data
Version: 0.8-15
Followup-For: Bug #276143

This bug is still present in versions 0.8-12 (testing) and 0.8-15
(unstable). The patch from Jean-Christophe Dubacq worked for me and
seems to solve a quite longstanding bug. Is there anything wrong with
this patch ?

iouri.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing-proposed-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'testing-proposed-updates'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-amd64
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

-- no debconf information

Message #46 received at 276143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Denis Barbier <barbier@linuxfr.org>

To: Lionel VAUX <lionel.vaux@laposte.net>, 276143@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#276143: Still present (Re: Bug#276143: altwin:meta_win breaks 3rd level modifier (AltGr))

Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:27:36 +0200

On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:33:33PM +0200, Lionel VAUX wrote:
> Package: xkb-data
> Version: 0.8-15
> Followup-For: Bug #276143
> 
> This bug is still present in versions 0.8-12 (testing) and 0.8-15
> (unstable). The patch from Jean-Christophe Dubacq worked for me and
> seems to solve a quite longstanding bug. Is there anything wrong with
> this patch ?

Yes, changing these definitions is troublesome, see
  http://bugzilla.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1473
One can add lv3:ralt_switch option to let right Alt key behave as
expected, so I am reluctant to apply this patch.

Denis

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