Debian Bug report logs - #264069
lists.debian.org: Please create the debian-webapps mailing list

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: David Moreno Garza <damog@damog.net>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-php mailing list

Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:00:01 -0500

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Name: 
debian-php

Rationale: 
Since web development has been increased on a huge way, PHP has
been adopted as a nice solution for dynamic sites, as well as scripting
work. Being one of the most used programming languages around, I see
a lack of discussion of it related to Debian, from packaging to
development of some related software to Debian. It will impel even, the 
Debian work around PHP5, which was recently released as stable.

Short description: 
PHP packages maintenance and development

Long description:
Coordination of the maintenance of PHP packages and development of related work.

Category:
Developers

Subscription Policy:
open

Post Policy:
open

Web Archive:
yes


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Message #10 received at 264069@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: sean finney <seanius@seanius.net>

To: David Moreno Garza <damog@damog.net>

Cc: Fabian Fagerholm <fabbe@paniq.net>, Debian devel <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, 264069@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: PHP5?

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:03:16 -0400

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:57:34PM -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote:
> BTW, I would be glad to see this proposal seconded, if anyone shares the
> point of view:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=264069

fwiw, i think it'd be an even greater service if this weren't
specific to php, as php is often one of a number of ingredients
in the web applications in question.  better yet would be to
create a debian-webapp mailing list (which i'm sure would be
in a very large part LAMP-centric), covering not only php, but
covering perl/cgi, apache, mysql/pgsql, and how they all fit
together.


	sean

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Message #15 received at 264069@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.org>

To: sean finney <seanius@seanius.net>

Cc: David Moreno Garza <damog@damog.net>, Fabian Fagerholm <fabbe@paniq.net>, Debian devel <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, 264069@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: PHP5?

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:22:41 -0600

sean finney dijo [Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:03:16PM -0400]:
> > BTW, I would be glad to see this proposal seconded, if anyone shares the
> > point of view:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=264069
> 
> fwiw, i think it'd be an even greater service if this weren't
> specific to php, as php is often one of a number of ingredients
> in the web applications in question.  better yet would be to
> create a debian-webapp mailing list (which i'm sure would be
> in a very large part LAMP-centric), covering not only php, but
> covering perl/cgi, apache, mysql/pgsql, and how they all fit
> together.

I agree with Sean, PHP is just a part of a whole suite of tools used
for the same goals. If anything, I would agree with David's proposal
transformed into a generic debian-webapp thing.

Now, on the other hand: Debian is about providing a complete framework
on which anybody can do his work. If we were to provide a
debian-webapp list, would it be about the Web applications that exist
in Debian? Or would it rather be about general webapp development? If
it is the first case, I think they can be dealt with here in
debian-devel, in debian-user* or other lists. In the second case, I
don't think it really is Debian's business to provide mailing lists
for it unless there is real interest from a mass of users. Debian
mailing lists are Debian-related, not just development related.

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Message #20 received at 264069@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alexis Sukrieh <sukria@sukria.net>

To: 264069@bugs.debian.org

Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:28:41 +0200

retitle 264069 lists.debian.org: Please create the debian-webapps mailing list
thanks

Name: 
debian-webapps

Rationale: 
There are now a large number of Web Application packages in and entering
Debian. At the moment, there is no policy on how to package these
applications.
This list aims to:
* Create and maintain a working policy for the packaging of Web based
  applications (Webapps).
* Provide a forum for the discussion of packaging Webapps.

Short description: 
Web Applications package maintainance and Web Application policy development

Long description:
Coordination for the maintainance of web application packages and Debian
Webapp Policy issues.

Category:
Developers

Subscription Policy:
open

Post Policy:
open

Web Archive:
yes

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Message #25 received at 264069@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

To: Alexis Sukrieh <sukria@sukria.net>

Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:50:35 +0200

On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> It really seems that such a list is needed, a lot of webapp maintainers 
> would be happy to have a common place to talk about that.

Definitely.
 
> Here is the name that sounds to be the good one, according to this thread:
> 
>     debian-webapps@lists.debian.org

Seconded. Fwiw, I don't see this as a temporary list, webapplications
are *growing* in use, and there's a lot of trickyness involved that
isn't well document/standard at all compared to a regular package with
some data files, libraries and a few binaries.
 
> We have to find a correct description for the list, let me give you a 
> first try:
> 
>     Coordination for web application maintenance and Debian Webapp
>     Policy issues.

Coordination and discussion for web application packaging.

I wouldn't even mention the policy in the description, it's of course
part of it, but not the main focus IMHO -> it's just a logical
conclusion that this discussion should be on debian-webapps then.

--Jeroen

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Message #30 received at 264069-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pascal Hakim <pasc@redellipse.net>

To: 264069-done@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#264069: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 00:00:09 +1000

I've just created the debian-webapps@lists.debian.org list. You can
subscribe from http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/

Cheers,

Pasc

On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 13:50 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> > It really seems that such a list is needed, a lot of webapp maintainers 
> > would be happy to have a common place to talk about that.
> 
> Definitely.
>  
> > Here is the name that sounds to be the good one, according to this thread:
> > 
> >     debian-webapps@lists.debian.org
> 
> Seconded. Fwiw, I don't see this as a temporary list, webapplications
> are *growing* in use, and there's a lot of trickyness involved that
> isn't well document/standard at all compared to a regular package with
> some data files, libraries and a few binaries.
>  
> > We have to find a correct description for the list, let me give you a 
> > first try:
> > 
> >     Coordination for web application maintenance and Debian Webapp
> >     Policy issues.
> 
> Coordination and discussion for web application packaging.
> 
> I wouldn't even mention the policy in the description, it's of course
> part of it, but not the main focus IMHO -> it's just a logical
> conclusion that this discussion should be on debian-webapps then.
> 
> --Jeroen
> 
> -- 
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar
> Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
> http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl
> 
> 

Message #31 received at 264069-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alexis Sukrieh <sukria@sukria.net>

To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

Cc: 264069-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#264069: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 16:03:17 +0200

Pascal Hakim wrote:
> I've just created the debian-webapps@lists.debian.org list. You can
> subscribe from http://lists.debian.org/debian-webapps/

And you can join the live discussions on #debian-webapps on irc.oftc.net :)

Let's have a nice collaborative work fellow developers!

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