Debian Bug report logs - #253973
PTS: could send emails about testing migration

Package: qa.debian.org; Maintainer for qa.debian.org is debian-qa@lists.debian.org;

Reported by: Simon Males <sime@anticd.org>

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 09:18:03 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Done: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

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From: Simon Males <sime@anticd.org>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: packages.debain.org notice of change mailing list
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:03:53 +1000
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Each package for each distribution should have a notification list. 
Notification of new package/version.

For example, I would like to know when another version of mono enters 
testing:

http://packages.debian.org/testing/interpreters/mono

So somewhere on that page would be a form to enter my email address. The 
changes list could be a cut down version of mailman. Or just a simple 
opt-in list. That prompt's subsribers of a new version.



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From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>
To: Simon Males <sime@anticd.org>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: packages.debain.org notice of change mailing list
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:00:55 +0100
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:03:53PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> Each package for each distribution should have a notification list. 
> Notification of new package/version.
> 
> For example, I would like to know when another version of mono enters 
> testing:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/interpreters/mono
> 
> So somewhere on that page would be a form to enter my email address. The 
> changes list could be a cut down version of mailman. Or just a simple 
> opt-in list. That prompt's subsribers of a new version.

I think this is more likely to be in scope for packages.qa.debian.org,
although it doesn't do notifications for testing at the moment as far as
I know.

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]



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From: Matt Kraai <kraai@ftbfs.org>
To: Simon Males <sime@anticd.org>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: packages.debain.org notice of change mailing list
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:01:42 -0700
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:03:53PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
> Each package for each distribution should have a notification list. 
> Notification of new package/version.
> 
> For example, I would like to know when another version of mono enters 
> testing:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/interpreters/mono
> 
> So somewhere on that page would be a form to enter my email address. The 
> changes list could be a cut down version of mailman. Or just a simple 
> opt-in list. That prompt's subsribers of a new version.

I don't know of any such service at the moment, but you can use
the Package Tracking System[1] to receive an e-mail when a new
version of a package is uploaded to unstable.

-- 
Matt Kraai            kraai@ftbfs.org            http://ftbfs.org/

1. http://packages.qa.debian.org/



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From: Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
To: Matt Kraai <kraai@ftbfs.org>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Simon Males <sime@anticd.org>, debian-qa@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: packages.debain.org notice of change mailing list
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:54:39 +0200
reassign 253973 qa.debian.org
retitle 253973 PTS: could send emails about testing migration
thanks

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 07:01:42PM -0700, Matt Kraai wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:03:53PM +1000, Simon Males wrote:
> > Each package for each distribution should have a notification list. 
> > Notification of new package/version.
> > 
> > For example, I would like to know when another version of mono enters 
> > testing:
> > 
> > http://packages.debian.org/testing/interpreters/mono
> > 
> > So somewhere on that page would be a form to enter my email address. The 
> > changes list could be a cut down version of mailman. Or just a simple 
> > opt-in list. That prompt's subsribers of a new version.
> 
> I don't know of any such service at the moment, but you can use
> the Package Tracking System[1] to receive an e-mail when a new
> version of a package is uploaded to unstable.

I think the PTS would also be the reasonable point to implement
the requested feature. Therefor I reassign the bug to qa.debian.org.

Gruesse,
-- 
Frank Lichtenheld <djpig@debian.org>
www: http://www.djpig.de/



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From: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>
To: 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:53:11 +0100
For the record of this bug report: Since the beginning of November I
have been working on a set of scripts that mail out email notices
about testing migrations and removals. Messages about individual
packages go to <package>@packages.debian.org and to
<package>_summary@packages.qa.debian.org; daily summary mails are sent
to debian-testing-changes@l.d.o.

For the time being I'm running this by hand each day while I tinker
with its workings, but once it is stable enough to run unsupervised
the idea is to make it a cronjob that runs on ftp-master immediately
after the mirror pulse. Once that happens, this bug report could be
closed.

-- 
Henning Makholm                           "og de står om nissen Teddy Ring."



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From: Justin Pryzby <justinpryzby@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:06:23 -0500
Have you considered mailing to pts news address?  I don't mean static
news, but I think the same place as the uploads go.  Don't know if
people would be agreeable, just a though..

-- 
Clear skies,
Justin

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 12:53:11AM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> For the record of this bug report: Since the beginning of November I
> have been working on a set of scripts that mail out email notices
> about testing migrations and removals. Messages about individual
> packages go to <package>@packages.debian.org and to
> <package>_summary@packages.qa.debian.org; daily summary mails are sent
> to debian-testing-changes@l.d.o.
> 
> For the time being I'm running this by hand each day while I tinker
> with its workings, but once it is stable enough to run unsupervised
> the idea is to make it a cronjob that runs on ftp-master immediately
> after the mirror pulse. Once that happens, this bug report could be
> closed.



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From: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>
To: 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:38:03 +0100
Scripsit Justin Pryzby

> Have you considered mailing to pts news address?  I don't mean static
> news, but I think the same place as the uploads go.

It sounds like a good idea to me.

In the interest of not cluttering the testing-watch emails with a
variety of headers for different purposes, would it be possible to
have the extract_info function in
packages.qa.debian.org/www/bin/common.py recognize the
X-Testing-Watch-Package header as an alternative to the X-PTS-Package
header?


(debian-qa readers: Please cc me)

-- 
Henning Makholm                "De kan rejse hid og did i verden nok så flot
                                 Og er helt fortrolig med alverdens militær"



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From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>
To: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:20:39 +0100
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Justin Pryzby
> 
> > Have you considered mailing to pts news address?  I don't mean static
> > news, but I think the same place as the uploads go.
> 
> It sounds like a good idea to me.
> 
> In the interest of not cluttering the testing-watch emails with a
> variety of headers for different purposes, would it be possible to
> have the extract_info function in
> packages.qa.debian.org/www/bin/common.py recognize the
> X-Testing-Watch-Package header as an alternative to the X-PTS-Package
> header?

I've been thinking about the same, but I'm not convinced it'd be a good
idea to have them end up on the web interface: it can easily clutter the
display (people are used to it being more or less an upload history).
Other opinions on this are welcome.

For the mails getting to the PTS email subscribes: sure. There isn't yet
a category for it though, I'd be inclined to file it under katie-other,
or alternatively, to review the categories.

Please just send the mails to package_katie-other@packages.qa.debian.org,
and they'll end up to pts subscribers who're subscribed to katie-other
(default: on). The X-PTS-Package anti-spam protection is only for
unclassified mail ending up in the PTS. When (if) categories are later
revised, we'll let you know (or re-route the mail ourselves).

--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl



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From: Justin Pryzby <justinpryzby@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>, 253973@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-qa@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:40:20 -0500
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Justin Pryzby
> 
> > Have you considered mailing to pts news address?  I don't mean static
> > news, but I think the same place as the uploads go.
> 
> It sounds like a good idea to me.
Hmmm there is also the "Testing Status" section [0], which is probably
a better fit.  I think the PTS would need to be modified to put stuff
there not generated by "excuses.txt" or whatever.  Maybe the PTS
scripts themselves should be sending the mails, for maximal
integration?

-- 
Clear skies,
Justin

References

[0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/saods9.html



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From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>
To: Justin Pryzby <justinpryzby@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Henning Makholm <henning@makholm.net>, 253973@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:53:42 +0100
On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:40:20PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 09:38:03PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Scripsit Justin Pryzby
> > 
> > > Have you considered mailing to pts news address?  I don't mean static
> > > news, but I think the same place as the uploads go.
> > 
> > It sounds like a good idea to me.
> Hmmm there is also the "Testing Status" section [0], which is probably
> a better fit.  I think the PTS would need to be modified to put stuff
> there not generated by "excuses.txt" or whatever.

Status != history, though... What part would be the 'status' here?

For history, the 'news' section seems like best suited, so the question
remains[1], would it be a waste of space or rather a good use of space
to have testings status changes end up in that section too?

> Maybe the PTS scripts themselves should be sending the mails, for
> maximal integration?

DAK should send them, I'd say, and I think I saw somewhere already some
discussion about that. Of course, I can stash the script under qa
somewhere, if Henning for some reason no longer wants to run it under
his user, but I think it's best to have it simply directly moved to the
most-correct place. In any case it shouldn't be the PTS subsystem itself
that sends out these mails, that's besides the purpose and design of it.

--Jeroen

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2005/11/msg00070.html, first
    paragraph (I've been ... are welcome)

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
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From: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>
To: 253973-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#253973: Bug #253973: PTS: could send emails about testing migration
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 08:51:14 +0100
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> For history, the 'news' section seems like best suited, so the question
> remains[1], would it be a waste of space or rather a good use of space
> to have testings status changes end up in that section too?

It's been a few years now that we have testing migrations/removals in the
news section of the PTS.

Closing the bug.

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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