Debian Bug report logs - #241279
libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@U.Arizona.EDU>

To: <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:15:36 -0700 (MST)

Package: libaiksaurus-data
Version: 1.0.1+cvs.2004.03.15-1
Severity: serious

Neither the package description nor the copyright file
indicate who compiled the thesaurus word lists.  Even if the
data are in the public domain, the original compilers
deserve prominent acknowledgement.

Furthermore, the GPL (the copyright file accompanying
libaiksaurus-data) requires Debian to provide source in the
preferred form for modification.  However the source tarball
contains binary meanings.dat and words.dat files.  Is this
really the preferred form?  If upstream produced these
binary files by running a program on an ASCII wordlist, then
Debian can not legally distribute this package without also
providing that ASCII file and program.  (Hence the RC
severity on this bug report.)

--Andre

Message #10 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@U.Arizona.EDU>

To: <241279@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: 241279: thesaurus data

Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:53:27 -0700 (MST)

The README file in the source code confirms my suspicion
that Debian is not distributing the thesaurus source:

README> If you want to do work on the thesaurus data, i.e. add synonyms or
README> so forth, please visit
README>
README>    http://www.aiksaurus.com/developers/datatools/
README>
README> The data tools are very large (~100MB!) so I've kept them
README> out of CVS.

Unfortunately aiksaurus.com is currently down.

--Andre

Message #15 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@U.Arizona.EDU>

To: <241279@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder

Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 21:08:51 -0700 (MST)

I made an attempt to contact Jared Davis, the Aiksaurus
copyright holder, but my email bounced:

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
<jared@aiksaurus.com>... Deferred: Connection timed out with
mail.aiksaurus.com.
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue

Based on some web searching he may be at UT Austin.  I'll
try contacting that Jared Davis to see if he has the source.

--Andre

Message #20 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Masayuki Hatta <mhatta@po.airs.net>

To: Andre Lehovich <andrel@U.Arizona.EDU>, 241279@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#241279: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder

Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:01:16 +0900

Hi Andre, thank you for your investigation.

Yes, aiksaurus.com and Mr. Jared Davis are not available at this
moment, but one of the upstream author of AbiWord and current
maintainer of Aiksaurus (http://aiksaurus.sf.net) Francis Franklin
owns the source tarball.  These tools are licensed under GNU GPL (see
source files), and the source text of thesaurus turned out to be Moby
Thesaurus from Project Gutenberg, which is released in the public
domain.

This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
http://people.debian.org/~mhatta/Aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.tar.bz2

I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
archive to aiksaurus source tarball.  I guess just adding notes on
this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL.  How do you think?

Regards,
MH

--
Masayuki Hatta
mhatta@gnu.org / mhatta@debian.org / mhatta@opensource.jp

Message #25 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andre Lehovich <andrel@U.Arizona.EDU>

To: Masayuki Hatta <mhatta@po.airs.net>

Cc: <241279@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#241279: 241279: unable to contact aiksaurus copyright holder

Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:15:44 -0700 (MST)

I was able to reach Jared Davis at jared@cs.utexas.edu.
Turns out he is running Debian and using your packages!

> This archive is quite big (100MB), but I just put my Debian homedir
> http://people.debian.org/~mhatta/Aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.tar.bz2

I'll have to look at the archive to see why it is so big and
if there is any reduction possible.  Thanks for tracking it
down.

> I'm still thinking how this situation should be resolved...I don't
> really want to add this big (and certainly useless for most users)
> archive to aiksaurus source tarball.  I guess just adding notes on
> this archive to README.Debian would satisfy GPL.  How do you think?

There is the GPL issue, but also Debian Free Software
Guidelines #2.  The word lists are really the heart of the
application, and if there are any spelling mistakes or
similar problems that is the level at which it will have to
be fixed.  I worry that if that giant tarball doesn't
formally appear in the archive it will get lost.  Also our
commercial redistributors have to be careful about GPL
compliance; pointing at Debian's servers doesn't satisfy
their obligations.

--Andre

Message #30 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <fabbione@fabbione.net>

To: 241279@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Possible solution to fix 241279

Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:25:52 +0200 (CEST)

Hi,
	I did some investigation on how to fix this problem.

Please grab this (50MB) tar.bz2 file:

http://gpl.no-name-yet.com/patches/aiksaurus.241279.tar.bz2

that contains the following:

- a stripped down aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.tar.bz2
- aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.debian.diff patch to compile a portion of the
  tools with Debian
- a proposed aiksaurus_1.0.1+cvs.2004.03.15+dev-0.12 package.

The stripped down tar file of aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.tar.bz2 contains
everything in the original (as present on your pages on people.debian.org)
stripped of the failed examples in old_data/ (as explained in the README
file).
The tar still contains the 2 mentioned examples in the README file.

In this way all the code for the tools is shipped. Be aware that they
compile only with g++-2.95 (reason why the proposed package build-deps on
libstdc++2.10-dev), but they are not built or shipped with this proposal.

The aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.debian.diff is a farly simple patch that
provide a global Makefile and a little patch to the tools to use the
correct version of g++.

The proposed package requires a new orig.tar.gz to include the
0.12-devtools and it stores them in data/0.12-dev.

The copyright file should be ok since all the code is released under GPL.

At the end of this process the aiksaurus-0.12-devtools.tar.bz2 went down
from 350MB to 96MB unpacked. Adding only 20 Mb of overhead on the
.orig.tar.gz that i think it is a more reasonable amount compared to the
100Mb discussed in the bug report.

Please CC me on reply.

Thanks
Fabio

Message #35 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeroen van Wolffelaar <jeroen@wolffelaar.nl>

To: abiword@packages.debian.org, lyx-qt@packages.debian.org

Cc: 241279@bugs.debian.org, 249909@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Problems with aiksaurus affecting abiword and lyx

Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:54:38 +0200

Hi,

As you can see at http://bugs.debian.org/src:aiksaurus, aiksaurus has
two release critical issues at the moment.

With the release of Sarge looming, I ask you to look into these two
bugs. Either those need to be fixed, or your package needs to stop
depending on aiksaurus. Please post information about how easy it is to
stop depending on aiksaurus to these bugs, in order to help deciding
what to do if these bugs are not going to be fixed in time.

I'd be a pity to lose abiword and lyx in Sarge due to some issues in an
Thesaurus.

--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl

Message #40 received at 241279@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>

To: 241279@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <fabbione@fabbione.net>

Subject: Re: libaiksaurus-data: missing thesaurus source and attribution

Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:29:09 -0700

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Hello,

I'm preparing to NMU this package (sorry I wasn't able to do so sooner,
Masayuki), and I'm not sure that I'm comfortable changing the upstream
version in this NMU.  Fabio, were there any reasons (other than diff
size) for making a new .orig.tar.gz?  Masayuki, do you object to this
change, or should I go ahead with it?

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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Message #49 received at 241279-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org>

To: 241279-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#241279: fixed in aiksaurus 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3

Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:17:41 -0700

Source: aiksaurus
Source-Version: 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
aiksaurus, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3.diff.gz
aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3.dsc
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3.dsc
aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
gaiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/gaiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
libaiksaurus-1.2-data_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/libaiksaurus-1.2-data_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_all.deb
libaiksaurus-1.2-dev_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/libaiksaurus-1.2-dev_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb
  to pool/main/a/aiksaurus/libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3_i386.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 241279@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org> (supplier of updated aiksaurus package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@debian.org)


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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon,  9 Oct 2006 22:47:44 +0900
Source: aiksaurus
Binary: gaiksaurus libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev aiksaurus libaiksaurus-1.2-dev libaiksaurus-1.2-data
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 1.2.1+dev-0.12-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org>
Changed-By: Masayuki Hatta (mhatta) <mhatta@debian.org>
Description: 
 aiksaurus  - an English-language thesaurus (utility)
 gaiksaurus - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (GTK+ frontend)
 libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a - an English-language thesaurus (development)
 libaiksaurus-1.2-data - an English-language thesaurus (data)
 libaiksaurus-1.2-dev - an English-language thesaurus (development)
 libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (library)
 libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev - graphical interface to the Aiksaurus toolkit (development)
Closes: 241279
Changes: 
 aiksaurus (1.2.1+dev-0.12-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Bumped to Standards-Verion: 3.7.2.
   * Acknowledged a (really old) NMU - closes: #241279
Files: 
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 317bdc363b57e2fe3dbce656c2cd1a02 21106 devel optional aiksaurus_1.2.1+dev-0.12-3.diff.gz
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