Debian Bug report logs - #211297
[britney] britney should judge sense of putting a package into testing

Package: release.debian.org; Maintainer for release.debian.org is Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:18:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Done: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org, James Troup and others <ftpmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#211297; Package ftp.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org, James Troup and others <ftpmaster@debian.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ftp.debian.org: britney should judge sense of putting a package into testing
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:02:28 +0200
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Package: ftp.debian.org
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-16
Severity: minor

Hi aj,

$ madison --regex myspell
[...]
myspell-lt | 0.5.20030624-1 |       testing | all
myspell-lt | 0.5.20030624-1 |      unstable | all
myspell-lv |    0.5.5-1 |       testing | source, all
myspell-lv |    0.5.5-1 |      unstable | source, all

Hmm. This does not make much sense.

I understand that - from the view of the testing scripts - myspell-*
(repspectively their source packages) are valid candidates and
therefore are let into testing.

And they are even installable; do not make sense though. They are the
dictionaries for OpenOffice.org and the mozilla spellchecker (so used
by OpenOffice.org and mozilla-snapshot currently). mozilla-snapshot
isn't in testing and OpenOffice.org is in testing with 1.0.3-2 against
which those myspell packages declare a conflict.

So there we have myspell-* packages now in testing which makes no
sense until openoffice.org (>> 1.0.3-2) dripples into testing on which
is worked on...

But when that shouldn't happen we have senseless packages in testing,
ok they can be removed if the time comes but still the testing scripts
may be able to modified to not let such situations occur.

I honestly do not have an idea currently how this might be implemented
since this can't be done automatically (how should the scripts
determine the _sense_ of a package objectively?), but maybe this could
be implemented by some variables/flags/fields/whatever in the scripts
modfied by the RM/RAs?

I am not sure, though, if that really is worth the hassle or if this
situation is a corner case and won't happen again.

I trust your judgement :-)

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux frodo 2.4.21-rene #3 Mit Aug 6 17:21:44 CEST 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=de_DE@euro, LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Bug#211297; Package ftp.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #10 received at 211297@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>
To: 211297@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#211297: Acknowledgement (ftp.debian.org: britney should judge sense of putting a package into testing)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:47:32 +0200
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Hi,

Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send
> it to 211297@bugs.debian.org (and *not* to
> submit@bugs.debian.org).

oh, and what I forgot:

Something similar (but wrt removal) happened with the removal of
openoffice.org-spellcheck-de-* which doesn't make sense anymore in
unstable since myspell-* replace it but do in testing and now we don't
have a german spellcheck for OOo in testing anymore..

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Changed Bug title. Request was from Andreas Barth <aba@not.so.argh.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to `wishlist' from `minor' Request was from Anthony Towns <ajt@ries.debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:27:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Bug reassigned from package `ftp.debian.org' to `release.debian.org'. Request was from Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 03 May 2008 15:30:12 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Reply sent to Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Fri, 13 May 2011 23:30:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Fri, 13 May 2011 23:30:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #21 received at 211297-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>, 211297-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#211297: ftp.debian.org: britney should judge sense of putting a package into testing
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 01:28:27 +0200
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 00:02:28 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:

> Package: ftp.debian.org
> Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-16
> Severity: minor
> 
> Hi aj,
> 
> $ madison --regex myspell
> [...]
> myspell-lt | 0.5.20030624-1 |       testing | all
> myspell-lt | 0.5.20030624-1 |      unstable | all
> myspell-lv |    0.5.5-1 |       testing | source, all
> myspell-lv |    0.5.5-1 |      unstable | source, all
> 
> Hmm. This does not make much sense.
> 
> I understand that - from the view of the testing scripts - myspell-*
> (repspectively their source packages) are valid candidates and
> therefore are let into testing.
> 
britney is not a human.  Let's deal with corner cases one by one.
Closing this bug.

Cheers,
Julien




Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 11 Jun 2011 07:45:58 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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