Debian Bug report logs - #206631
suck: Don't write to /etc

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Package: suck; Maintainer for suck is Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org>; Source for suck is src:suck.

Reported by: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:48:04 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: upstream

Merged with 158563, 189652

Found in versions 4.3.0-5, 4.2.2-4, 4.3.1-4

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>:
Bug#206631; Package suck. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: suck: Don't write to /etc
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:06:24 +0200
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Package: suck
Version: 4.3.1-4 (not installed)
Severity: normal

Hi,

get-news uses /etc/suck/ for status file of suck. This could prevent
mounting / readonly, what might be useful on some systems in some
situations. It should be simple to you to move sucknewsrc{,.old} out of
/etc/suck.

Thanx, Jörg.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux joerg 2.4.21 #1 Son Jun 15 15:09:29 MEST 2003 i586
Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE
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Merged 158563 189652 206631. Request was from Thomas Hood <jdthood@yahoo.co.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message sent on to Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>:
Bug#206631. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at 206631-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>
To: 206631-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: please don't duplicate bugs
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:44:04 -0700
This problem has already been reported twice (158563 and 189652).
Thomas Hood beat me to doing the merge.

The file in question contians both configuration and status
information, so moving to to /var would also be a policy violation.
Splitting the fuctions will be non-trivial, and will involve
duplicating information in /var from /etc.


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Bug#206631; Package suck. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>:
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Message #15 received at 206631-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>
To: Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>, 206631-quiet@bugs.debian.org
Cc: 206631-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#206631: please don't duplicate bugs
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:07:18 +0200
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Blars Blarson schrieb am Fri 22. Aug, 03:44 (-0700) :
> The file in question contians both configuration and status
> information, so moving to to /var would also be a policy violation.
> Splitting the fuctions will be non-trivial, and will involve
> duplicating information in /var from /etc.

I would not say, that this file is a configuration file. It's more a
database or status file like fetchids for fetchmail, crontab for cron,
the keep file for deborphan or active and inactive for iptables with the
difference, that there isn't a user interface to modify it. Because this,
the user edits the real hot database. It's more a "bug" in suck.

I wrote a little script, that parses the news.notice and edits this file
upon what groups are requested by the users. So I would prefer to see
sucknewsrc in /var.

Bye, Jörg.

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added, but when there is no longer anything to take away.
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Bug#206631; Package suck. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>:
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Message #23 received at 206631@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>
To: 206631@bugs.debian.org
Subject: #206631: Additional informations
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:48:12 +0200
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Hi,

I moved my suck stuff out of /etc by doing the following:

* moved /etc/suck/sucknewsrc* to /var/local/suck/
* linked /etc/suck/suckkillfile to /var/local/suck/suckkillfile
* set etcdir in get-news.conf to /var/local/suck (this sets the -dd
  option of suck)

All works fine.

Bye, Jörg.
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Message #28 received at 206631@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>
To: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>, 206631@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#206631: #206631: Additional informations
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:12:57 -0700
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:48:12PM +0200, J?rg Sommer wrote:
> I moved my suck stuff out of /etc by doing the following:

Moving it isn't the problem, but moving it to /var puts
configuration data there that violates policy.



-- 
Blars Blarson			blarson@blars.org
				http://www.blars.org/blars.html
With Microsoft, failure is not an option.  It is a standard feature.



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>:
Bug#206631; Package suck. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #33 received at 206631@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jörg Sommer <joerg@alea.gnuu.de>
To: Blars Blarson <blarson@blars.org>
Cc: 206631@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#206631: Additional informations
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:36:27 +0200
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Blars Blarson schrieb am Tue 12. Jul, 09:12 (-0700):
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:48:12PM +0200, J?rg Sommer wrote:
> > I moved my suck stuff out of /etc by doing the following:
> 
> Moving it isn't the problem, but moving it to /var puts
> configuration data there that violates policy.

sucknewsrc is not configuration. Or is the active file of inn also
configuration.

Jörg.
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