Debian Bug report logs - #186029
netcfg: Some questions should be grouped

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Package: netcfg; Maintainer for netcfg is Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>; Source for netcfg is src:netcfg.

Reported by: Sebastian Ley <sebastian@withouthat.org>

Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:03:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: moreinfo

Found in version 0.23

Done: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>, netcfg@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#186029; Package netcfg. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>, netcfg@packages.qa.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Sebastian Ley" <sebastian.ley@mmweg.rwth-aachen.de>
To: "Debian Bug Tracking System" <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: netcfg: Some questions should be grouped
Date: 24 Mar 2003 00:51:28 +0100
Package: netcfg
Version: 0.23 (not installed)
Severity: wishlist

The gtk frontend is able to present more than only one question at a
time. Questions will be collected with the INPUT command and asked
alltogether when a GO is issued. netcfg should make use of this.

Other frontends will ignore this for now, they will continue asking the
questions in a row, so nothing breaks.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux coyote 2.4.20 #1 Thu Feb 13 18:48:44 CET 2003 i686
Locale: LANG=de_DE@euro, LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro




Tags added: d-i Request was from Sebastian Ley <sebastian.ley@mmweg.rwth-aachen.de> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Changed Bug submitter from "Sebastian Ley" <sebastian.ley@mmweg.rwth-aachen.de> to Sebastian Ley <sebastian@withouthat.org>. Request was from Sebastian Ley <sebastian@withouthat.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Tags removed: d-i Request was from Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#186029; Package netcfg. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>:
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Message #16 received at 186029@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
To: 186029@bugs.debian.org
Subject: hmm
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:14:19 -0400
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I'm not seeing any blocks of questions that could actually be grouped in
netcfg. Possibly, in static config, it asks the ip and the netmask
without any dependencies, but everything else seems to depend on the
answer that came before, so can't be blocked.

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see shy jo
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Bug#186029; Package netcfg. (Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:39:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>:
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From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>
To: 186029@bugs.debian.org, 186029-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Grouping questions in netcfg -- but which ones?
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:35:00 +1100
tag 186029 +moreinfo
thanks

Hi,

I'm triaging netcfg bugs.  Bear with me on this archaeological endeavour.

Like Joey Hess, I'm having trouble identifying questions that can be grouped
together.  Even the IP address/netmask questions aren't groupable any more,
as there's changes in the works to make the netmask question optional if you
provide a CIDR netmask in the IP address.

If you have any ideas on questions in netcfg that can be grouped, please let
me know.  Otherwise, I'll close off this bug report.

- Matt




Added tag(s) moreinfo. Request was from Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:39:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message sent on to Sebastian Ley <sebastian@withouthat.org>:
Bug#186029. (Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:39:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #31 received at 186029@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Christian PERRIER <bubulle@debian.org>
To: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>, 186029@bugs.debian.org
Cc: 186029-submitter@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#186029: Grouping questions in netcfg -- but which ones?
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:46:44 +0100
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Quoting Matthew Palmer (mpalmer@debian.org):
> tag 186029 +moreinfo
> thanks
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm triaging netcfg bugs.  Bear with me on this archaeological endeavour.
> 
> Like Joey Hess, I'm having trouble identifying questions that can be grouped
> together.  Even the IP address/netmask questions aren't groupable any more,
> as there's changes in the works to make the netmask question optional if you
> provide a CIDR netmask in the IP address.
> 
> If you have any ideas on questions in netcfg that can be grouped, please let
> me know.  Otherwise, I'll close off this bug report.


Several bug submitters often don't see that questions that seem
"obvious" for them to be grouped are (sometimes onlyin some cases)
interdependent. We have the same situation in user-setup (some LWN
articles have featured remarks like "Debian developers should group
together questions about root password and user password"....ignoring
that, in some situations, one depends on another.

So, I'd say that, if you don't really see what questions can be
grouped, then it's likely that they really can't.

One should also consider that grouping questions in a single debconf
screen often leaves less room for explanations...

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Reply sent to Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>:
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Message #39 received at 186029-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@debian.org>
To: 186029-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#186029: some questions should be grouped (closing)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:51:53 +1100
It is the general opinion of d-boot that a lot of questions, whilst seeming
"groupable" on the surface, actually aren't.  Hence, I am closing this bug
report.  If you have any questions you think can be grouped, please reopen
this report or (preferably) file a new bug with the details of exactly which
questions you think can/should be grouped.

- Matt




Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:31:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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