Debian Bug report logs - #181033
edit source keybinding doesn't seem to work

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: edit source keybinding doesn't seem to work

Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:03:38 -0500

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Package: w3m
Version: 0.3.2.2+0.4rc1-1
Severity: normal

The e key does not seem to do anything in w3m, though the menu says it
should edit source. I can pick that off the menu and it works, but not
the key binding, which does nothing.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux dragon 2.4.20 #1 Tue Dec 3 20:31:32 EST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages w3m depends on:
ii  libc6                     2.3.1-11       GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libgc6c102                1:6.1-2        Conservative garbage collector for
ii  libgpmg1                  1.19.6-12      General Purpose Mouse Library [lib
ii  libncurses5               5.3.20021109-2 Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libssl0.9.7               0.9.7-4        SSL shared libraries
ii  zlib1g                    1:1.1.4-9      compression library - runtime

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Message #10 received at 181033@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>

To: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

Cc: 181033@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#181033: edit source keybinding doesn't seem to work

Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 22:35:18 +0900

At Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:03:38 -0500,
Joey Hess wrote:

> The e key does not seem to do anything in w3m, though the menu says it
> should edit source. I can pick that off the menu and it works, but not
> the key binding, which does nothing.

e key? default key binding to edit source is E key.

E                    Edit current document

Regards,
Fumitoshi UKAI

Message #15 received at 181033@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>

To: Fumitoshi UKAI <ukai@debian.or.jp>

Cc: 181033@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#181033: edit source keybinding doesn't seem to work

Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:21:44 -0500

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Fumitoshi UKAI wrote:
> At Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:03:38 -0500,
> Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> > The e key does not seem to do anything in w3m, though the menu says it
> > should edit source. I can pick that off the menu and it works, but not
> > the key binding, which does nothing.
> 
> e key? default key binding to edit source is E key.
> 
> E                    Edit current document

My confusion is that the menu, here:

lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk
x Back         (b) x
x Select Buffer(s) x
x Select Tab   (t) x
x View Source  (v) x
x Edit Source  (e) x
x Save Source  (S) x
x Reload       (r) x
x ---------------- x
x Go Link      (a) x
x   on New Tab (n) x
x Save Link    (A) x
x View Image   (i) x
x Save Image   (I) x
x View Frame   (f) x
x ---------------- x
x Bookmark     (B) x
x Help         (h) x
x Option       (o) x
x ---------------- x
x Quit         (q) x
mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj

Uses a set of sometimes the same, but often different keybindings, while the
menu is up, to quickly jump to items on it. This is contrary to standard GUI
design, which says that if the menu shows a keybinding, it should be the same
keybinding that works when the menu is down. This allows users to learn
shortcuts through using the menu. The current menu is w3m only serves to
confuse with its inconsistency: Is "b" the key to back up? No, it's "B" when
the menu is not showing. "e" the key to edit? Only when the menu is showing.
"s" the key to select the buffer? Yes, whether the menu is displayed or not.

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