Debian Bug report logs - #170637
Please remove gmail

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ove Kaaven <ovek@arcticnet.no>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: O: gmail -- GNOME mail client using SQL-based vfolders

Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:45:34 +0100

Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-25
Severity: normal

I am orphaning the gmail package, since its upstream is no longer
actively working on it, it does not compile with recent versions of
libs it depends on, and I don't have time to maintain it myself without
an upstream. (But I don't think I'm going to upload a package with the
new maintainer set to debian-qa, since the new upload may not compile
on the autobuilders, which might be bad if some people are still
interested in the package.)

The package description is:
 Gmail is an experimental SQL-based vfolder email system, using MySQL
 as its back-end database, which allows for large volumes of mail,
 without risk of data loss. The vfolders (virtual folders) are
 implemented as SQL queries. A cache system keeps gmail fast.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux acroyali 2.4.18-rc1-ac2 #1 man okt 7 23:46:10 CEST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=no_NO, LC_CTYPE=no_NO

Message #10 received at 170637@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Filip Van Raemdonck <mechanix@debian.org>

To: ovek@arcticnet.no

Cc: 170637@bugs.debian.org

Subject: gmail

Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:48:16 +0200

Hi,

Regarding you orphaning gmail: I've checked and it appears _really_ dead
upstream, even it's website is gone.
Considering that the main feature are probably vfolders, and other MUAs
have that too now; that you say yourself it doesn't even build anymore,
and the deadness of it, would you mind if I filed a bug request to remove
it from the archives?
It won't be gone for people who have it installed, and the last packaged
version will still be available from snapshot.debian.net. But it doesn't
seem likely it'll ever be resurrected again anyway.


Regards,

Filip

-- 
Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, it should be
hard to understand.

Message #15 received at 170637@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ove Kaaven <ovek@arcticnet.no>

To: Filip Van Raemdonck <mechanix@debian.org>

Cc: 170637@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: gmail

Date: 04 Jul 2003 18:52:28 +0200

fre, 04.07.2003 kl. 12.48 skrev Filip Van Raemdonck:
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding you orphaning gmail: I've checked and it appears _really_ dead
> upstream, even it's website is gone.
> Considering that the main feature are probably vfolders, and other MUAs
> have that too now; that you say yourself it doesn't even build anymore,
> and the deadness of it, would you mind if I filed a bug request to remove
> it from the archives?

Well, apparently the "Debian QA Group" managed to build it, so perhaps
it's not that bad, and I've kept its gmime 0.6 dependency in the
archive. But anyway, no, I don't really mind, if people think that's the
best thing to do. It's certainly not going to be useful for me if it's
dead upstream.

But if gmail is removed, then there's no reason for that old gmime 0.6
(now in libgmime0 and libgmime0-dev) to stay in the archive, perhaps
that should be removed too then.

> It won't be gone for people who have it installed, and the last packaged
> version will still be available from snapshot.debian.net. But it doesn't
> seem likely it'll ever be resurrected again anyway.

I guess not.

Message #20 received at 170637@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Filip Van Raemdonck <mechanix@debian.org>

To: Ove Kaaven <ovek@arcticnet.no>

Cc: 170637@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: gmail

Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:33:23 +0200

On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 06:52:28PM +0200, Ove Kaaven wrote:
> fre, 04.07.2003 kl. 12.48 skrev Filip Van Raemdonck:
> > 
> > Regarding you orphaning gmail: I've checked and it appears _really_ dead
> > upstream, even it's website is gone.
> > Considering that the main feature are probably vfolders, and other MUAs
> > have that too now; that you say yourself it doesn't even build anymore,
> > and the deadness of it, would you mind if I filed a bug request to remove
> > it from the archives?
> 
> Well, apparently the "Debian QA Group" managed to build it, so perhaps
> it's not that bad, and I've kept its gmime 0.6 dependency in the
> archive.

I figured that out too, after sending my mail. So indeed I guess not.

> But anyway, no, I don't really mind, if people think that's the
> best thing to do. It's certainly not going to be useful for me if it's
> dead upstream.

I was just going through somewhat old (well, not that old, but still) wnpp
bugs, checking for orphaned packages which appeared to not be developed
upstream anymore too.

I'll leave it as it is, but I suppose if noone has taken over it might be
enough a reason to remove it after next stable release. (Also considering
it's GTK+/GNOME 1 based...)


Regards,

Filip

-- 
"Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its simplicity."
	-- Dennis Ritchie

Message #25 received at 170637@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org>

To: Filip Van Raemdonck <mechanix@debian.org>, 170637@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#170637: gmail

Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 21:43:15 +0200

Hi Filip!

You wrote:

> I was just going through somewhat old (well, not that old, but still) wnpp
> bugs, checking for orphaned packages which appeared to not be developed
> upstream anymore too.

Ah, very nice.

[about gmail]
> I'll leave it as it is, but I suppose if noone has taken over it might be
> enough a reason to remove it after next stable release. (Also considering
> it's GTK+/GNOME 1 based...)

Considering it's abandoned upstream, it's been orphaned for over 6
months and apparently there are no specific features not present in other
MUA, I'd vote to remove it now.

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Message #30 received at 170637@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>

To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 170637@bugs.debian.org

Subject: orphaned, most likely dead upstream

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:32:10 +0000

reassign 170637 ftp.debian.org
retitle 170637 Please remove gmail
thanks

orphaned, most likely dead upstream
-- 
Martin Michlmayr
tbm@cyrius.com

Message #39 received at 170637-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian Archive Maintenance <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 170637-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#170637: fixed

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:24:40 -0500

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

     gmail |    0.7.5-4 | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
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mirrors (ftp.debian.org included) until the next cron.daily run at the
earliest.

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