Debian Bug report logs - #142178
php4: short_open_tag should default to off

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Message #5 received at maintonly@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Robert Kroiss <rkroiss@iwag.tuwien.ac.at>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <maintonly@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:04:46 +0200

Package: php4
Version: 4:4.1.2-1
Severity: wishlist

With short_open_tag in php.ini set to on it is inconvenient to serve xml or
XHTML-Documents with php, which is becoming more important right now.

The typical first line of an xml-Document looks like this:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

This causes a parse error with the current default configuration.
Work-arounds exist but are tedious.

Robert Kroiss

-- System Information
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Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux lisa 2.4.18-1 #1 Fre Mär 22 11:17:59 CET 2002 i686
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Versions of packages php4 depends on:
ii  apache-common                1.3.23-1    Support files for all Apache webse
ii  fileutils                    4.1-10      GNU file management utilities
ii  libbz2-1.0                   1.0.2-1     A high-quality block-sorting file 
ii  libc6                        2.2.5-3     GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libdb2                       2:2.7.7.0-5 The Berkeley database routines (ru
ii  libexpat1                    1.95.2-6    XML parsing C library - runtime li
ii  libmm11                      1.1.3-6     Shared memory library
ii  libpam0g                     0.72-35     Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii  libpcre3                     3.4-1.1     Philip Hazel's Perl Compatible Reg
ii  mime-support                 3.15-1      MIME files 'mime.types' & 'mailcap
ii  zlib1g                       1:1.1.4-1   compression library - runtime

Message #10 received at 142178-maintonly@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.net>

To: Robert Kroiss <rkroiss@iwag.tuwien.ac.at>, 142178-maintonly@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:50:33 -0500

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:04:46PM +0200, Robert Kroiss wrote:
> Package: php4
> Version: 4:4.1.2-1
> Severity: wishlist

> With short_open_tag in php.ini set to on it is inconvenient to serve xml or
> XHTML-Documents with php, which is becoming more important right now.

> The typical first line of an xml-Document looks like this:
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

> This causes a parse error with the current default configuration.
> Work-arounds exist but are tedious.

I understand the reason for wanting this changed, but I don't believe 
(based on extrapolation of my experience elsewhere) that the percentage
of users of the Debian packages who are doing fully-formed XML, versus
the percentage of users of the Debian packages who use -- or write -- 
PHP scripts using short tags, is great enough to justify the change at 
present.  Adam, what's your feeling?

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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Message #13 received at 142178-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam Conrad" <adconrad@0c3.net>

To: "'Steve Langasek'" <vorlon@netexpress.net>

Cc: <142178-submitter@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RE: Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:52:24 -0600

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Langasek [mailto:vorlon@netexpress.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:51 AM
> 
> > With short_open_tag in php.ini set to on it is inconvenient 
> to serve xml or
> > XHTML-Documents with php, which is becoming more important 
> right now.
> 
> I understand the reason for wanting this changed, but I don't believe 
> (based on extrapolation of my experience elsewhere) that the 
> percentage
> of users of the Debian packages who are doing fully-formed XML, versus
> the percentage of users of the Debian packages who use -- or write -- 
> PHP scripts using short tags, is great enough to justify the 
> change at 
> present.  Adam, what's your feeling?
> 
> Steve Langasek

Well, it was a wishlist.  :)  In principle, I agree with him, but in
practice, we'd run the risk of breaking a LOT of 3rd party PHP scripts
out there, were we to change the default.  Perhaps a not-too-scientific
audit of tag preference in current (packaged) scripts wouldn't be a bad
idea.

I'll be looking at a large number of php.ini changes post-Woody,
however, and this is something to be considered.  I've said it before,
and I'll say it again, nothing but "this package is completely broken"
bugs are going to be looked at for Woody, but wishlist items like this
are certainly on the drawing board for the big re-org for Woody+1.

There's no harm in keeping it open and considering it, at any rate. :)

... Adam

Message #20 received at 142178@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <142178@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:21:57 +0200

Package: php5

Hi PHP team,

I was thinking that maybe it could be a good time to revisit this wishlist bug and turn
short_tags Off by default.

We would need to check all revdeps in the archive, prepare lintian check, etc. (and of
course add debian/NEWS about it).  Also we probably should write some paragraph into
release notes with all the stuff which has changed in PHP 5.4.

O.

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Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Message #25 received at 142178@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com>

To: 142178@bugs.debian.org

Subject: RE: Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:09:01 -0400

Hey Ondřej do you want me to try and take this one?

What would be the easiest way to check what PHP programs are employing
short tags? I would end up installing each one and using grep (Or
something stronger in Python if needed) to scan the installed files
and look for short tags. I will just make up a CSV of what programs do
or do not use short tags.

I have done a decent amount of PHP programming and I have never seen a
program use ASP like tags.

Message #30 received at 142178@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org>

To: Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com>, 142178@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [php-maint] Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:22:36 +0200

Hi Sean,

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Ondřej do you want me to try and take this one?

just leave it post-wheezy.  We cannot make this change now due freeze,
and we will have plenty of time to solve this in jessie.

> What would be the easiest way to check what PHP programs are employing
> short tags? I would end up installing each one and using grep (Or
> something stronger in Python if needed) to scan the installed files
> and look for short tags. I will just make up a CSV of what programs do
> or do not use short tags.

Yeah, something like that. I suggest using wiki to track the checks,
something like: http://wiki.debian.org/PHP/54Transition

There's also a git repository with bunch of tools I have used to track
PHP 5.4 transition located at
anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php-maint-tools.git

Do you have alioth account, if so please add yourself to the pkg-php
group, if not, please create one, and add yourself, so you can have
write access to git repos.

> I have done a decent amount of PHP programming and I have never seen a
> program use ASP like tags.

Me neither, but it's the baggage we have to drag for now (in wheezy
freeze time).

O.
-- 
Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>

Message #35 received at 142178@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org>

To: Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com>, 142178@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [php-maint] Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 23:42:51 +0200

Sean,

now it would be a good time to do the archive check and maybe filling
a wishlist bug (or even writing that check yourself) against lintian
to check the short open tags.

I will be disabling short_open_tag in next upload of PHP 5.5

O.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Ondřej do you want me to try and take this one?
>
> just leave it post-wheezy.  We cannot make this change now due freeze,
> and we will have plenty of time to solve this in jessie.
>
>> What would be the easiest way to check what PHP programs are employing
>> short tags? I would end up installing each one and using grep (Or
>> something stronger in Python if needed) to scan the installed files
>> and look for short tags. I will just make up a CSV of what programs do
>> or do not use short tags.
>
> Yeah, something like that. I suggest using wiki to track the checks,
> something like: http://wiki.debian.org/PHP/54Transition
>
> There's also a git repository with bunch of tools I have used to track
> PHP 5.4 transition located at
> anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php-maint-tools.git
>
> Do you have alioth account, if so please add yourself to the pkg-php
> group, if not, please create one, and add yourself, so you can have
> write access to git repos.
>
>> I have done a decent amount of PHP programming and I have never seen a
>> program use ASP like tags.
>
> Me neither, but it's the baggage we have to drag for now (in wheezy
> freeze time).
>
> O.
> --
> Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>



-- 
Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>

Message #40 received at 142178@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sean DuBois <sean@siobud.com>

To: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org>, 142178@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Bug#142178: [php-maint] Bug#142178: php4: short_open_tag should default to off

Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 17:48:35 -0500

On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 11:42:51PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> now it would be a good time to do the archive check and maybe filling
> a wishlist bug (or even writing that check yourself) against lintian
> to check the short open tags.
Awesome! I will look into writing the check for Lintian, it will be a
good learning experience.

Than any packages that get hit I will then triage. 

> 
> I will be disabling short_open_tag in next upload of PHP 5.5
> 
> O.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org> wrote:
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Sean Dubois <seander13@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hey Ondřej do you want me to try and take this one?
> >
> > just leave it post-wheezy.  We cannot make this change now due freeze,
> > and we will have plenty of time to solve this in jessie.
> >
> >> What would be the easiest way to check what PHP programs are employing
> >> short tags? I would end up installing each one and using grep (Or
> >> something stronger in Python if needed) to scan the installed files
> >> and look for short tags. I will just make up a CSV of what programs do
> >> or do not use short tags.
> >
> > Yeah, something like that. I suggest using wiki to track the checks,
> > something like: http://wiki.debian.org/PHP/54Transition
> >
> > There's also a git repository with bunch of tools I have used to track
> > PHP 5.4 transition located at
> > anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-php/php-maint-tools.git
> >
> > Do you have alioth account, if so please add yourself to the pkg-php
> > group, if not, please create one, and add yourself, so you can have
> > write access to git repos.
> >
> >> I have done a decent amount of PHP programming and I have never seen a
> >> program use ASP like tags.
> >
> > Me neither, but it's the baggage we have to drag for now (in wheezy
> > freeze time).
> >
> > O.
> > --
> > Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org>
> 

Message #45 received at 142178-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org>

To: 142178-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#142178: fixed in php5 5.5.0~beta4-2

Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:40 +0000

Source: php5
Source-Version: 5.5.0~beta4-2

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
php5, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 142178@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Ondřej Surý <ondrej@debian.org> (supplier of updated php5 package)

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