Debian Bug report logs - #128681
[PROPOSAL]: Debian Menu Policy

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Package: debian-policy; Maintainer for debian-policy is Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>; Source for debian-policy is src:debian-policy.

Reported by: Ben Bucksch <linux@bucksch.org>

Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:33:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Merged with 128734

Found in version 3.5.6.0

Done: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org>:
Bug#128681; Package menu. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ben Bucksch <linux@bucksch.org>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to joost witteveen <joostje@debian.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Bucksch <linux@bucksch.org>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Debian Menu Policy
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:17:57 +0100
Package: menu
Version: 2.1.5-10

The Debian menu contents seem to lack any concept:

   * nautilus is in System and the Gnome Menu Editor is in Tools
   * Tools is much too long
   * some entries are names after filename ("nautilus"), some after
     their name ("Gnome Menu Edtior"). This is especially bad, because
     in GNOME, all capitalized names come before those with lower case.

In short they are in a sorrow state and desperately need someone to 
massively extend the policy 
<http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu-policy/ch2.html> and 
enforce it.




Bug reassigned from package `menu' to `debian-policy'. Request was from Josip Rodin <joy@gkvk.hr> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>, debian-policy@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#128681; Package debian-policy. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>, debian-policy@packages.qa.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #12 received at 128681@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
To: 128681@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Processed: bugs assigned to the wrong package
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 01:06:11 -0500
Hi,

        Isn't this premature to send this for policy creation?
  Shouldn't we work out a solution, implement it, work out the kinks,
  and _then_ make policy about it?

	manoj
-- 
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>, debian-policy@packages.qa.debian.org:
Bug#128681; Package debian-policy. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Josip Rodin <joy@gkvk.hr>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>, debian-policy@packages.qa.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 128681@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Josip Rodin <joy@gkvk.hr>
To: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>, 128681@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#128681: Processed: bugs assigned to the wrong package
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:57:01 +0200
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 01:06:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>         Isn't this premature to send this for policy creation?
>   Shouldn't we work out a solution, implement it, work out the kinks,
>   and _then_ make policy about it?

The bug references the menu policy which is in debian-policy, but was filed
under the menu package, and obviously ignored.

If you ask me, feel free to close the bug explaining the proper procedure to
the submitter.

-- 
     2. That which causes joy or happiness.



Changed Bug title. Request was from Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Merged 128681 128734. Request was from Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to `wishlist'. Request was from Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Reply sent to Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>:
You have taken responsibility. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Ben Bucksch <linux@bucksch.org>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #28 received at 128681-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
To: 128681-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#128681: [PROPOSAL]: Debian Menu Policy
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:04:04 -0700
The original bug raised three issues:

   * nautilus is in System and the Gnome Menu Editor is in Tools
   * Tools is much too long
   * some entries are names after filename ("nautilus"), some after
     their name ("Gnome Menu Edtior"). This is especially bad, because
     in GNOME, all capitalized names come before those with lower case.

The new menu structure adopted recently will hopefully fix the first two
points.  For the third point, the menu manual recommends properly
capitalizing the title, and it's reasonable to put something in Menu
Policy recommending how to write title and longtitle.  However, this is a
mixed report with several issues and doesn't include a concrete proposal.

I'm therefore closing this particular report, but if someone else would
like to make a concrete proposal for title and longtitle policy or
recommendations, please feel free to open a new Policy bug with that
proposal.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



Reply sent to Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>:
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Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:31:33 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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