Debian Bug report logs - #127974
O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: 06 Jan 2002 03:12:25 +0100

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I haven't the source code and I can't solve the bugs there are opened.
Not much to do about this package. I orphane it.

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Package: epan 1.3.1-4 [non-free]
offline ethernet protocol analyzer

This program allows you to capture data from network devices like
ethernet, SLIP or PPP and analyze this data. You can decode the captured
data in detail, i.e. you'll see all the details of protocols like IP,
TCP, UDP, DNS or RIP. Epan currently contains more than 25 protocol
decoders.

--
Angel Ramos
seamus@debian.org

Message #10 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>

To: Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>

Cc: 127974@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#127974: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:33:37 +0100

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:12:25AM +0100, Angel Ramos wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: normal
> 
> I haven't the source code and I can't solve the bugs there are opened.
> Not much to do about this package. I orphane it.
> 
> ----
> Package: epan 1.3.1-4 [non-free]
> offline ethernet protocol analyzer
> 
> This program allows you to capture data from network devices like
> ethernet, SLIP or PPP and analyze this data. You can decode the captured
> data in detail, i.e. you'll see all the details of protocols like IP,
> TCP, UDP, DNS or RIP. Epan currently contains more than 25 protocol
> decoders.

Hi,

I propose that we remove this package. There's no source code, upstream
has disappeared, and ethereal is a free package that provides pretty
much the same functionality but better (or at least that's my
impression). Any comments?

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]

Message #15 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>

To: 127974@bugs.debian.org, debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#127974: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:34:01 -0400

>I propose that we remove this package. There's no source code, upstream
>has disappeared, and ethereal is a free package that provides pretty
>much the same functionality but better (or at least that's my
>impression). Any comments?

kill it.

Mike Stone

Message #20 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Peter Palfrader <weasel@debian.org>

To: debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Cc: Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>, 127974@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#127974: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:56:06 +0200

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:12:25AM +0100, Angel Ramos wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > I haven't the source code and I can't solve the bugs there are opened.
> > Not much to do about this package. I orphane it.
> > 
> > ----
> > Package: epan 1.3.1-4 [non-free]
> > offline ethernet protocol analyzer
> > 
> > This program allows you to capture data from network devices like
> > ethernet, SLIP or PPP and analyze this data. You can decode the captured
> > data in detail, i.e. you'll see all the details of protocols like IP,
> > TCP, UDP, DNS or RIP. Epan currently contains more than 25 protocol
> > decoders.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I propose that we remove this package. There's no source code, upstream
> has disappeared, and ethereal is a free package that provides pretty
> much the same functionality but better (or at least that's my
> impression). Any comments?

go forward.

					yours,
					peter

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Message #25 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Matej Vela <vela@debian.org>

To: debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Cc: Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>, 127974@bugs.debian.org, "Peter Tobias" <peter.tobias@web.de>

Subject: Re: Bug#127974: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: 18 Sep 2002 10:21:12 +0200

Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> writes:

> I propose that we remove this package. There's no source code, upstream
> has disappeared, and ethereal is a free package that provides pretty
> much the same functionality but better (or at least that's my
> impression). Any comments?

I mailed the author three weeks ago just in case we get lucky.  Here's
what came in this morning:

-------------------- Start of forwarded message --------------------
From: "Peter Tobias" <peter.tobias@web.de>
To: "Matej Vela" <vela@debian.org>
Subject: RE: Keeping EPAN in Debian
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:37:49 +0200

Hello Matej,

I'm sorry that my answer took so long but I just switched jobs
and was therefore not able to keep up with my personal email.

> Since EPAN is a Debian-native package, a strict reading of
>
>   Permission to copy and distribute unmodified versions of EPAN in its
>   entirety, is hereby granted ...
>
> doesn't give us the right to modify even the Debian-specific parts.
> Can you make that an exception?
>
> Better yet, since you no longer seem to be distributing EPAN
> yourself[1], perhaps you might consider releasing the sources under a
> free license?  I know it's asking much, but it would allow us to fix a
> long-standing edump bug, and link against xforms 0.89 and libpcap 0.7.

yes, that's the best way!. And that's what I planned about three years ago
(but real life prevented that). I think most source files already contain
the GPL header.

I'm planning to check the sources again just in order to be sure that
everything is alright (for example copyright issues). I'll send you the
latest snapshot of the sources along with this message so you can try to
compile it using the latest xforms and libpcap packages (also attached is
a corrected version of the "How to write decoders" HOWTO). Before you are
going to upload the new package please get in touch with me again so I can
send you the latest patches/additions (if I made any in the meantime - I
think that I have to change the email address for example to
"tobias@linux.de").


> [1] Neither <ftp://fbti.et-inf.fho-emden.de/pub/epan> nor
>     <ftp://ftp.et-inf.fho-emden.de/pub/linux/epan> work anymore.

I know ... unfortunately there is no "official homesite/archive" right
now.


Thanks,

Peter

-------------------- End of forwarded message --------------------

The sources are at <http://people.debian.org/~vela/> for now.  They
compile on sid, and I guess I'll do an upload by the end of the week.

Thanks,

Matej

Message #35 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>

To: debian-qa@lists.debian.org

Cc: Angel Ramos <seamus@debian.org>, 127974@bugs.debian.org, Peter Tobias <peter.tobias@web.de>

Subject: Re: Bug#127974: O: epan -- offline ethernet protocol analyzer

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:11:05 +0100

On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 10:21:12AM +0200, Matej Vela wrote:
> -------------------- Start of forwarded message --------------------
> From: "Peter Tobias" <peter.tobias@web.de>
> To: "Matej Vela" <vela@debian.org>
> Subject: RE: Keeping EPAN in Debian
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:37:49 +0200

Oh, wow. I thought I'd tried to contact Peter some time ago but had no
luck (I might be misremembering, of course). Thanks to both of you!

> > Better yet, since you no longer seem to be distributing EPAN
> > yourself[1], perhaps you might consider releasing the sources under a
> > free license?  I know it's asking much, but it would allow us to fix a
> > long-standing edump bug, and link against xforms 0.89 and libpcap 0.7.

That'll be contrib for now, but I guess libforms1 in main isn't all that
far away.

Much appreciated,

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]

Message #40 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>

To: 127974@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Matej Vela <vela@debian.org>, Colin Watson <cjw44@flatline.org.uk>, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Removed

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:59:03 +0100

* tbm <tbm@cyrius.com> [2003-01-17 21:57]:
> This package was removed.

Matej & Colin, I haven't really read the log of this bug, but it seems
you found the sources of this package or something?  So could it go
into main?  It has just been removed on the request of someone
(Steve Langasek), but perhaps you want it back?  Or did you only do
-qa stuff to the package?
-- 
Martin Michlmayr
tbm@cyrius.com

Message #45 received at 127974-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>

To: 127974-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Removed

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:57:38 +0100

| Debian Bug report logs - #173740
| please remove non-free epan package from unstable

This package was removed.


-- 
Martin Michlmayr
tbm@cyrius.com

Message #50 received at 127974@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.net>

To: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>

Cc: 127974@bugs.debian.org, Matej Vela <vela@debian.org>, Colin Watson <cjw44@flatline.org.uk>

Subject: Re: Removed

Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:08:52 -0600

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Hi,

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:59:03PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * tbm <tbm@cyrius.com> [2003-01-17 21:57]:
> > This package was removed.

> Matej & Colin, I haven't really read the log of this bug, but it seems
> you found the sources of this package or something?  So could it go
> into main?  It has just been removed on the request of someone
> (Steve Langasek), but perhaps you want it back?  Or did you only do
> -qa stuff to the package?

If the package is to be re-added, can you comment on what advantages this
program offers over ethereal?  The current binaries seemed to be in very
poor shape when I looked at them, and I noted only one feature in there
(the graphs) that had not yet been implemented in ethereal -- but could
be easily.

Regards,
-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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